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  1. Reggie W

    The Devils (1971)

    OK, another odd thing, apparently The Devils was first made available on Shudder in 2017. So, I am really late to the party here. Second in everything I see when I search this on the internet it refers to the version showing on Shudder as "uncut" which I assume is not the case. However...
  2. Reggie W

    The Devils (1971)

    This does not appear to be the reason these pictures are not available. In the case of Disney, they made a bunch of changes to their company polices and as such Song of the South now violates them. So, no release. Disney has gone so far with their policy decisions as to choose to alienate the...
  3. Reggie W

    The Devils (1971)

    I like your Lucas theory. I can't say what it would sell in terms of copies. When something is hard to see or intentionally hidden it does automatically draw some curiosity seekers that just want to see the "forbidden" film. I did see Salo because of the reputation it has. Not a film I love...
  4. Reggie W

    The Devils (1971)

    On the running times for various versions I have found the following listed from various sources: 108 minutes (the US cut?) 109 minutes (a variation or mistake on the US cut?) 111 minutes (the UK cut, also the UK DVD listed running time) 113 minutes (No clue on this, it appears in the first...
  5. Reggie W

    The Devils (1971)

    What is sort of funny about that is Russell called the play, I think, too sentimental. Which was part of why he made changes to it. He also called The Devils his only "political" film and had an interesting take on the story and what it meant to him. It is sort of funny that it is showing on...
  6. Reggie W

    The Devils (1971)

    Well, it is a picture with very limited appeal. I won't argue that. I don't think the film is a masterpiece but it is wacky piece of weird cinema. It is all overheated and gonzo Russell style but basically that is what makes it watchable. I would expect a lot of people to call it dreadful. So...
  7. Reggie W

    The Devils (1971)

    I don't know, based on the stories it seems less that they are concerned about how people would react to the film or it getting a release and more that somebody with some sort of pull at Warner does not want, or left instructions that, the picture not get a release. If you really think about...
  8. Reggie W

    The Devils (1971)

    Yeah, this was why I always doubted the story, whomever it was way back when that did not like the picture can't still be around. I just thought Warner just felt it was not a popular title. So, I do wonder who, if someone is, is sitting on it. Basically, it is just a movie, from 1971, that...
  9. Reggie W

    The Devils (1971)

    I always doubted that Warner Brothers was refusing to release it but recently I heard Joe Dante say this is exactly what is happening. That there is a person or persons there that do not want this film out. Technically, it has not been cancelled because there have been showings, some home...
  10. Reggie W

    The Devils (1971)

    So, I am guessing you are saying you saw the 117 minute cut back then. For the record, while there were some censor recommended cuts, it was Warner Brothers that appeared to want to chop it down more than the censors. Somebody at Warner hated this picture and likely masturbating nuns, priests...
  11. Reggie W

    The Devils (1971)

    The rumor has always been someone at Warner or more than one someone does not want this released...ever. Not sure if it is about offending others but rather someone wants this picture buried. At this stage my guess is Warner won't be doing it, however, if Shudder can show it why they can't...
  12. Reggie W

    The Devils (1971)

    So, from that link,: The BFI wanted to release the full 117 minute director's cut on BD but were prevented from doing so directly by Warner Brothers, from who they licensed the film.
  13. Reggie W

    The Devils (1971)

    No, it is pillar boxed, black bars above, below, and on each side of the picture. I don't see this much and was surprised they were showing it in that format.
  14. Reggie W

    The Devils (1971)

    Well, here is some explanation of that.... The explicit sexual and violent content, paired with its commentary on religious institutions, resulted in the film suffering significant censorship.[1][46] Commenting on the film's controversial nature, Reed stated: "We never set out to make a pretty...
  15. Reggie W

    The Devils (1971)

    The interesting thing is the various versions and the listed running times. The version I have is the one Mark Kermode got involved with and this small passage claims that version is 117 minutes long. Now it does say Kermode found scenes in the Warner vaults and reinserted them into the picture...
  16. Reggie W

    The Devils (1971)

    Being lazy here, but can anybody cite the different running times of the uncut and cut versions? The running time above shows 113 minutes, which I assume is the theatrical (cut) version. I will cross check what Shudder is showing via the running time but maybe the reason it is the rectangle box...
  17. Reggie W

    The Devils (1971)

    Honestly, I don't mean to knock Shudder here, actually I heartily applaud them showing it and believe it will expose more people to the picture. And really come on, so Shudder is brave enough to show it on their service but Warner still won't touch it?
  18. Reggie W

    The Devils (1971)

    Is the ITunes version better than the DVD and are they the same cut of the film, Ken?
  19. Reggie W

    The Devils (1971)

    I did not really examine which version it was and only watched about 20 minutes of it. I also have it on DVD in the "uncut" version. I just happened to notice that it was on Shudder and so thought I would give it a look. I was not really happy with the small rectangle in the center of the screen...
  20. Reggie W

    The Devils (1971)

    Posting this now because it is currently showing on Shudder. Probably some people know this. It is being shown in the format that just shows a small rectangular box in the center of your screen surrounded by black. Wondered why the version Shudder has is in this format.
  21. The Devils (1971)

    Title: The Devils Tagline: Hell holds no surprises for them. Genre: Drama, History Director: Ken Russell Cast: Vanessa Redgrave, Oliver Reed, Dudley Sutton, Max Adrian, Gemma Jones, Murray Melvin, Michael Gothard, Georgina Hale, Brian Murphy, Christopher Logue, Graham Armitage, John...
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