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  1. JohnRice

    For the love of movies: The Past, Present, and Future of Cinema and what makes us fans

    I don't even know what this discussion is actually about, and I'm getting a little dizzy. I don't think I have anything else to contribute.
  2. JohnRice

    For the love of movies: The Past, Present, and Future of Cinema and what makes us fans

    So what? Are you claiming that only big budget movies exist? If a movie is great Sci-Fi, it’s great Sci-Fi, regardless of the budget.
  3. JohnRice

    For the love of movies: The Past, Present, and Future of Cinema and what makes us fans

    So, your point is, if you eliminate the area where almost all the great Sci-Fi films are, there are no great Sci-Fi films. ;)
  4. JohnRice

    For the love of movies: The Past, Present, and Future of Cinema and what makes us fans

    Yes, Eastwood got the movie made, but Hackman makes the movie.
  5. JohnRice

    For the love of movies: The Past, Present, and Future of Cinema and what makes us fans

    Things change. There is good and bad in both. Henry Fonda famously had to commit to years of crap in order to star in The Grapes of Wrath. Despite the legitimacy of the things you say, I find no shortage of great, inventive films to watch. No more Daniel Day Lewis? OK, I give you Anya...
  6. JohnRice

    For the love of movies: The Past, Present, and Future of Cinema and what makes us fans

    I completely disagree that "they don't really want to make science fiction pictures that are about ideas". The existence of one thing doesn't eliminate the existence of another. There is no doubt that a LOT of supposedly Sci-Fi movies are just action or horror wrapped in a Sci-Fi cloak...
  7. JohnRice

    For the love of movies: The Past, Present, and Future of Cinema and what makes us fans

    An interesting thing is The Proposition and A History of Violence are largely the same story with much the same moral, told in very different ways
  8. JohnRice

    For the love of movies: The Past, Present, and Future of Cinema and what makes us fans

    After more thought, I think Unforgiven really isn’t a western in theme. It’s really more of a morality play in the setting of a western. I’m not sure western is a theme. Usually it’s a setting, because what is the theme of a western?
  9. JohnRice

    For the love of movies: The Past, Present, and Future of Cinema and what makes us fans

    This Sci-Fi thing has been an argument for a long time. I tend to think of it this way. Movies (stories in general, really) can be boiled down to have three prime aspects. These are... Theme: The engine that drives the story. Setting: Just like it sounds, where, when, etc the story takes...
  10. JohnRice

    For the love of movies: The Past, Present, and Future of Cinema and what makes us fans

    I'm actually a little baffled by your ongoing obsession with this topic. To me, the "golden days" of the movie star were more restricting than anything, for some reasons you spelled out. Yeah, there are stars who can get a movie made, both talented actors and not. Increasingly not. Who can...
  11. JohnRice

    For the love of movies: The Past, Present, and Future of Cinema and what makes us fans

    ...and some specific movies coming to mind for me that have become my ideal examples. Now I want to watch some... Far from Heaven 21 Grams The Claim The Station Agent Lawless The Proposition (oops, got two John Hillcoat ones in there.) Again, just off the top of my head.
  12. JohnRice

    For the love of movies: The Past, Present, and Future of Cinema and what makes us fans

    @Reggie W you were talking about Tarantino. In one way, I kind of feel like he's the 14 year old boy's idea of brilliant, but I just received and watched the new 4K release of True Romance and was thinking of the screen-churning scenes. Of course, the Walken/Hopper scene always gets the...
  13. JohnRice

    For the love of movies: The Past, Present, and Future of Cinema and what makes us fans

    There are movie stars and there are great movie actors. I'm more interested in the latter. Off the top of my head, here are some favorites. Peter Mullan Chiwetel Ejiofor Viola Davis Gary Oldman Clive Owen Tom Hardy Patricia Clarkson I need to think of more women.
  14. JohnRice

    For the love of movies: The Past, Present, and Future of Cinema and what makes us fans

    I thought the same thing, but that doesn't even need to happen. It'll be a 5+ hour movie, so there would have to be a disc change anyway.
  15. JohnRice

    For the love of movies: The Past, Present, and Future of Cinema and what makes us fans

    But that's a completely different thing. He's making a five (plus) hour movie of one story. No studio would permit that in one installment. So, he has to do it the only way available. Why do I constantly see that complaint about Dune, but never about The Batman or the endless Marvel insanity...
  16. JohnRice

    For the love of movies: The Past, Present, and Future of Cinema and what makes us fans

    The first half of Rogue One has a lot of nuts and bolts setup for the rest of the story. I have no problem with that. I'm actually baffled at the veracity of the hatred of it. That's just story telling on a more complex level than the Raiders of the Lost Ark (or the original Star Wars)...
  17. JohnRice

    For the love of movies: The Past, Present, and Future of Cinema and what makes us fans

    I grew up in the heart of the Star Wars world, since the first one was released the summer before I turned 14. What I don't understand is this belief that the whole thing is some sort of profound, life altering Shakespearean vision. It's basically pulp that exceeded its grasp. The only thing...
  18. JohnRice

    For the love of movies: The Past, Present, and Future of Cinema and what makes us fans

    I'm reminded of 15 years ago when every single movie thread turned into largely a LoTR discussion. Today it's Marvel. Because there is such a lack of Marvel discussion. ;) Now, before anyone jumps in to slam me, it's meant as an amusing observation, because there is life outside Marvel.
  19. JohnRice

    For the love of movies: The Past, Present, and Future of Cinema and what makes us fans

    A discussion in another thread got me thinking more about this one. The basic objective I have for watching movies has changed significantly in the last few years. At least, the way I approach it has. I grew up in an environment where it was simple fact that the height of discernment was...
  20. JohnRice

    For the love of movies: The Past, Present, and Future of Cinema and what makes us fans

    Of these things, for me it's all of them and it's none of them. I was just thinking through some of my favorite movies from the last couple of years. Promising Young Woman was directed by Emerald Fennell. Who it Emerald Fennell? I have no idea. Carey Mulligan is definitely an actor I...
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