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  1. DaveF

    Sony's 2022-23 Native 4K HDR Laser Projector line-up

    A friend bought an 83" Sony OLED for his media room and loves it. And he gets 120 Hz PS5 gaming to boot. I'm jealous of him, in a way, having such a clean solution for about what I'll spend on a projector. But, if 100"+ is your jam, direct view is still a substantial compromise. You don't have...
  2. DaveF

    Sony's 2022-23 Native 4K HDR Laser Projector line-up

    Back row is 16’, which is majority of use for tv and chilling with my wife. Front row is 9’-10’ for movies and important stuff.
  3. DaveF

    Sony's 2022-23 Native 4K HDR Laser Projector line-up

    I really should reduce my projector image to 100” and see how it feels. But I think I’m still happier with 120” HD than 97” 4K.
  4. DaveF

    Sony's 2022-23 Native 4K HDR Laser Projector line-up

    If a 97” is big enough for your tastes and room, it seems like this is a great choice. But otherwise, even 120” is a lot larger than 97”. And the immersive factor can outweigh a lot of other factors.
  5. DaveF

    Sony's 2022-23 Native 4K HDR Laser Projector line-up

    High contrast sharks…
  6. DaveF

    Sony's 2022-23 Native 4K HDR Laser Projector line-up

    So what you're saying is, JVC NZ9? Guess it's down to how much "laser" means to you versus max budget. JVC NP5 vs Sony XW6000 or JVC NZ7 to get everything without compromising.
  7. DaveF

    Sony's 2022-23 Native 4K HDR Laser Projector line-up

    Ok, that’s weird. :) If you’re going to masking and don’t do zoom CIH, then you don’t need motorized lens? :confused: I get it, the heart wants what the heart wants. But you seem like you’d A-OK to compromise on skipping on the motor.
  8. DaveF

    Sony's 2022-23 Native 4K HDR Laser Projector line-up

    There definitely enthusiasts that do this for 3D, or one is for gaming and the other movies, and so on. The hardest part, I think, is coming up with a good system to hod to projectors one on top of the other (or maybe side by side). After that, it’s just more cables and remote control...
  9. DaveF

    Sony's 2022-23 Native 4K HDR Laser Projector line-up

    But if your retirement projector purchase budget allows, of course going to the Sony XW6000 or JVC NZ7 or NZ8 solve all problems. :)
  10. DaveF

    Sony's 2022-23 Native 4K HDR Laser Projector line-up

    Another option, if you’re up for being a projector crazy person… Keep your current projector for 3D — buy a new lamp to get it back to “new” Then buy the cheaper projector you can compromise on. If you’re not doing Zoom-based CIH (which I doubt you are), I’d argue for the Sony to get best...
  11. DaveF

    Sony's 2022-23 Native 4K HDR Laser Projector line-up

    Let’s not make this Yet Another 3D Argument Thread. :)
  12. DaveF

    Sony's 2022-23 Native 4K HDR Laser Projector line-up

    If you need 3D I think the JVC NP5 is your best choice, based on available info and speculation. Pros: Great black floor and contrast (presumably class leading) Great HDR management (presumably class leading) 3D Motorized Lens (but no memory?) Good brightness Cons Lamp (but not a...
  13. DaveF

    Sony's 2022-23 Native 4K HDR Laser Projector line-up

    3D is a tough requirement. No TVs have it. And projectors are moving it to the luxe models for the niche willing to pay big to keep it.
  14. DaveF

    Sony's 2022-23 Native 4K HDR Laser Projector line-up

    The weight of the JVC has also been a concern for me. The Sony is much lighter, I think. I’m pretty sure my current mount would hold it without concern. Every review I’ve read says the new Epson is a truly competitive model, and there’s nothing else at $5000 or less that’s better. And depending...
  15. DaveF

    Sony's 2022-23 Native 4K HDR Laser Projector line-up

    Re: that comparison video They said it was calibrated "by hand". But they noted the colors and brightnesses were different between the projectors. If calibrated properly, the brightness and colors would have matched closely, at least on standard SDR content. Even to me, it looked like the JVC...
  16. DaveF

    Sony's 2022-23 Native 4K HDR Laser Projector line-up

    Beware with this video since it has problems. Their “calibration” is uncalibrated. The JVC is clearly setup wrong and possibly defective. They’re not especially competent projector “reviewers”. I take some encouraging early optimism about the Sony. But as a comparison to JVC, this video should...
  17. DaveF

    Sony's 2022-23 Native 4K HDR Laser Projector line-up

    I go round and round on LS12000 —> XW5000 —> NP5 on what to buy from internet research. I think I might be settling on the Sony 5000 as the right set of compromises. Contrast that’s definitely “quite good” and also bright enough. Combined with continued indications the HDR is improved and...
  18. DaveF

    Sony's 2022-23 Native 4K HDR Laser Projector line-up

    I’m coming back to Sony XW5000 might be the right set of compromises for me. Unfortunately, Sony just announced a month delay in shipping already. On the plus side, an extra month for me to find the money. :) https://www.whathifi.com/us/reviews/sony-vpl-xw7000es-and-vpl-xw5000es-4k-laser-projectors
  19. DaveF

    Sony's 2022-23 Native 4K HDR Laser Projector line-up

    Use your browser’s auto-translate feature. https://www.homecinema-fr.com/test-hcfr-sony-vpl-xw5000es-vpl-xw7000es-nouveaux-projecteurs-laser-4k/
  20. DaveF

    Sony's 2022-23 Native 4K HDR Laser Projector line-up

    Early pre-reviews are looking good to great. Contrast is 13k to 18k, similar to prior Sony. This is getting close to JVC, I believe. The HDR is said to be more than competent (I'd had the impression Sony HDR mapping wasn't good, but I'm reading more that it's pretty good and maybe a bit better...
  21. DaveF

    Sony's 2022-23 Native 4K HDR Laser Projector line-up

    Early look “review” shows native contrast is 10,000:1 (as i expected), about double Epson and about half JVC. https://www.avmagazine.it/articoli/4K/1714/supertest-sony-xw5000es-xw7000es_index.html
  22. DaveF

    Sony's 2022-23 Native 4K HDR Laser Projector line-up

    Ah. From what I’ve read elsewhere, Sony is explicitly not marketing this as a top gaming projector. One person at the announcement says Sony‘s position is that if you’re a hardcore gamer looking for the best display, you’ll buy their QOLED Master Series direct view.
  23. DaveF

    Sony's 2022-23 Native 4K HDR Laser Projector line-up

    They’re not. Who is?
  24. DaveF

    Sony's 2022-23 Native 4K HDR Laser Projector line-up

    I can lose the 3D — haven’t watched a 3D movie in 3+ years. I don’t have motorized focus and lens shift now, so I can get along without it…but if I’m spending $5000+ I’d rather not. But I expect Sony to have 2x better contrast (lower black floor) than the Epson. And maybe better HDR processing...
  25. DaveF

    Sony's 2022-23 Native 4K HDR Laser Projector line-up

    $5999 MSRP for the 5000! That’s what I hoped, but still a pleasant surprise. I’m bummed it’s a wholly manual lens. Epson at $5000 and JVC for $7000 are fully motorized. I’m looking forward to learning more!
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