Anyone buy or see this 4K UHD release from Japan yet ? Is the PQ Better than the Criterion Bluray ? AAHARDDAYSNIGHT.jpg
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Whoa. Hadn't heard of this. Will be hard to be the Criterion edition, but I'm willing to see if it does!
 

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I am a total sucker for A Hard Day's Night, especially for the television 'concert' towards the end. So although the Blu ray is very fine, I'd be ecstatic if there was a solid increase in quality with 4K .. but I'd be unwilling to pay the sort of price Japanese discs usually command.
 

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The negative for HDN doesn't exist anymore? Wow. Who in the hell let that happen? That's cinematic malfeasance if ever there was.
I believe a reel, or a bit more is gone. As I recall, footage was requested for a doc, and the element was released for duplication.

Instead of having a lab create dupes, the footage was removed, and cut into the doc.

It’s happened numerous times. Different elements. Different purposes.
 

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Maybe the gentleman, who spent a great deal of time opening his copy of the 4K UHD, would actually compare the picture and audio quality with the Criterion blu-ray, preferably on a large screen? Otherwise, there isn't really much point.
 

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I believe a reel, or a bit more is gone. As I recall, footage was requested for a doc, and the element was released for duplication.

Instead of having a lab create dupes, the footage was removed, and cut into the doc.

It’s happened numerous times. Different elements. Different purposes.
I'm going by my own faulty memory, but I recall that the text within the Booklet for the A HARD DAY'S NIGHT (1964) Criterion Blu-ray/DVD 50 Anniversary release indicated one of the 10 reels of the OCN was missing, but I don't recall exactly which reel (Though I'm thinking it was Reel One). For confirmation, I will have to recheck the text. I don't recall reading about any bits of any other OCN reels being missing within that text, however.

CHEERS! :)

P.S. Having just pored over the "About The Transfer" section (Pages 77-79) of the aforementioned booklet, there is no reference to a specific missing reel, so I may have read about a missing reel somewhere else?

Within the "Acknowledgements" section (Page 80), there is a reference to the monaural audio for Reel One being courtesy of the BFI National Archive, so perhaps that was what I was thinking of? To be fair, I did acknowledge my memory being faulty! :D
 
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The first and last OCN reels are missing, according to this Rolling Stone article: https://www.rollingstone.com/movies...ind-the-beatles-films-new-restoration-103267/

“In terms of the picture materials, they were, according to Becker, “in pretty good shape. The bulk of the film was transferred from the original negative. The first and last reels are missing, but we were able to use preprint materials.” Thankfully, when it came to cleaning up the visuals and getting all of the elements up to snuff for the Digitial Cinema Packages (DCPs) they would be sending out to theaters, everything could be handled in-house. And Becker already had somebody specific in mind for the audio remastering job: Giles Martin, the son of Beatles’ producer Sir George Martin.”

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A report on another site states that there is no HDR on this title.
I saw it on Br.com. That's why I Never Pre-order releases from another country until I know all the Details first. Plus it's Way Over Priced ! No HDR ? :confused: :oops: I will stick with my Criterion Bluray until a 4K UHD with HDR is done Properly.
 
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I saw it on Br.com. That's why I Never Pre-order releases from another country until I know all the Details first. Plus it's Way Over Priced ! No HDR ? :confused: :oops: I will stick with my Criterion Bluray until a 4K UHD with HDR is done Properly.
Isn't HDR mainly for titles that were shot in Color, anyway? I've read the use/misuse of HDR has messed up some Black & White 4K releases, such as IT'S A WONDERFUL LIFE (1946), where people actually recommend the 1080p Blu-ray over the 4K disc! In this case, with A HARD DAY'S NIGHT (1964) being a Black & White Film, I suspect the disc not having HDR might be an advantage, no?

I have no dogs in this fight, as I'm not equipped for 4K, and for financial reasons, don't expect to be in the near future, if at all. For the record, I'm quite happy with my 50th Anniversary Criterion Blu-ray/DVD combo! :)

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Isn't HDR mainly for titles that were shot in Color, anyway? I've read the use/misuse of HDR has messed up some Black & White 4K releases, such as IT'S A WONDERFUL LIFE (1946), where people actually recommend the 1080p Blu-ray over the 4K disc! In this case, with A HARD DAY'S NIGHT (1964) being a Black & White Film, I suspect the disc not having HDR might be an advantage, no?

I have no dogs in this fight, as I'm not equipped for 4K, and for financial reasons, don't expect to be in the near future, if at all. For the record, I'm quite happy with my 50th Anniversary Criterion Blu-ray/DVD combo! :)

CHEERS! :)
I guess HDR isn't that important after all. :unsure: I would like to see a Review for AHDN 4K soon from someone.
 

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I doubt there’s much difference between this and the Criterion Blu other than the resolution bump since they’d originate from the same 4K master.

Help! could absolutely use a new restoration/remaster, though. Probably not on UHD unless they find the camera negatives to all the opticals. Though, seems like only the main title footage prior to being rephotographed off the screen survived (and would be pointless to use since it’s supposed to look like a projected print).
 

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It's precisely that resolution bump that inspires people with large (ie projection) displays are after. The quest for perfection drives us.
When you see the 4K StudioCanal disc of Breathless and compare it to the blu-ray, you clearly appreciate the gain from great mastering in this resolution and greyscale range, when projected. Might go for the Japanese disc but so far I've never seen a 4K Japanese UHD. Japanese releases can be stellar - the Studio Ghilbi blu-ray collection from Japan was much better than the American releases, when they were originally released. If information is provided about who performed the 4K scan and who did the mastering for the 4K UHD disc, it would be easier to make a blind buy. The price - $120 + import duty and processing fees to Norway, is much too high otherwise.