A few words about…™ Saving Private Ryan — in 4k UHD Blu-ray

Upgrade from Blu-ray - Absolutely! 4 Stars

For those who may have felt cheated by a lack of in-your-face grain, in Paramount’s recent release of Grease, there will be no such concern for Steven Speilberg’s 1998 Saving Private Ryan, as it perfectly replicates the look of a first generation print, directly derived from the cut camera original.

Paramount scores a perfect 10 with SPR, which is yet another addition to the short list of true 4k product, hitting that can be considered reference quality.

This one is simple.

Everyone needs a copy.

And for those who have never seen it, here is the perfect means of doing so outside of a large-screen event.

Image – 5

Audio – 5 (Dolby Atmos)

Pass / Fail – Pass

Upgrade from Blu-ray – Absolutely!

Very Highly Recommended

RAH

Published by

Robert Harris

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34 Comments

  1. Hope my local Best Buy has prepped and stocked before opening their doors this morning, cause I'm a heading there here and now.
    [Poster reaches with right hand to left pocket, then left to right, then bee-lines to his hung up winter jacket]
    "Damn, where are my car keys?"

  2. Now with "Saving Private Ryan" joining the UHD/4Ks of "Close Encounters" and "E.T." we can easily discern that Steven Spielberg is very much a supporter of the format. So, which one's next? "Jaws", "Raiders of the Lost Ark", "Schindler's List" or "Lincoln"?
    Whichever or whenever, we're all here at HTF with open arms.:welcome:

    [Now seated, the poster then spies his keys on the kitchen table next to a pile of coins from yesterday's shopping. Action prevails. Dog is heard crying as the door to the poster's dwelling is hurridly being locked from the other side.]:)

  3. PMF

    Hope my local Best Buy has prepped and stocked before opening their doors this morning, cause I'm a heading there here and now.
    [Poster reaches with right hand to left pocket, then left to right, then bee-lines to his hung up winter jacket]
    "Damn, where are my car keys?"

    You may be disappointed — I do not think this is out until next Tuesday.

  4. PMF

    Now with "Saving Private Ryan" joining the UHD/4Ks of "Close Encounters" and "E.T." we can easily discern that Steven Spielberg is very much a supporter of the format. So, which one's next? "Jaws", "Raiders of the Lost Ark", "Schindler's List" or "Lincoln"?

    Jurassic Park!

  5. PMF

    Now with "Saving Private Ryan" joining the UHD/4Ks of "Close Encounters" and "E.T." we can easily discern that Steven Spielberg is very much a supporter of the format. So, which one's next? "Jaws", "Raiders of the Lost Ark", "Schindler's List" or "Lincoln"?
    Whichever or whenever, we're all here at HTF with open arms.:welcome:

    [Now seated, the poster then spies his keys on the kitchen table next to a pile of coins from yesterday's shopping. Action prevails. Dog is heard crying as the door to the poster's dwelling is hurridly being locked from the other side.]:)

    The Color Purple!!!

  6. PMF

    Now with "Saving Private Ryan" joining the UHD/4Ks of "Close Encounters" and "E.T." we can easily discern that Steven Spielberg is very much a supporter of the format. So, which one's next? "Jaws", "Raiders of the Lost Ark", "Schindler's List" or "Lincoln"?
    Whichever or whenever, we're all here at HTF with open arms.:welcome:

    Richard V

    The Color Purple!!!

    titch

    Jurassic Park!

    Take a number, guys; my list comes first, because I posted it first. 😀

  7. Scott Merryfield

    Already on its way… unfortunately bundled with the sequels for now. Hopefully it will be released separately soon.

    Yup, that's right. Jurassic Park is caught in a bundle. I knew I was somewhere missing a title from my earlier post. And now I'm realizing. I couldn't recall it because I dismissed it. I put it out of my head altogether, because I only wanted the first installment, to begin with. Otherwise, I would have already bought it. The same would apply to any future release of a 4K on Indiana Jones. Boxes are great for many; but please don't force me to wait a goodly amount of months for wanting just a single.

  8. PMF

    Yup, that's right. Jurassic Park is caught in a bundle. I knew I was somewhere missing a title from my earlier post. And now I'm realizing. I couldn't recall it because I dismissed it. I put it out of my head altogether, because I only wanted the first installment, to begin with. Otherwise, I would have already bought it. The same would apply to any future release of a 4K on Indiana Jones. Boxes are great for many; but please don't force me to wait a goodly amount of months for wanting just a single.

    JP is probably out earlier … for what reason …

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    I can't imagine 😉 …

  9. PMF

    Yup, that's right. Jurassic Park is caught in a bundle. I knew I was somewhere missing a title from my earlier post. And now I'm realizing. I couldn't recall it because I dismissed it. I put it out of my head altogether, because I only wanted the first installment, to begin with. Otherwise, I would have already bought it. The same would apply to any future release of a 4K on Indiana Jones. Boxes are great for many; but please don't force me to wait a goodly amount of months for wanting just a single.

    I am waiting for an individual release of the first Jurassic Park, too. I have no desire to own or see the sequels again.

  10. Scott Merryfield

    You may be disappointed — I do not think this is out until next Tuesday.

    You were right, Mr. Merryfield. But with such good news and reviews this one week wait isn't at all as torturous as are the usually announced titles that asks of us to wait upwards of some three months, before their actual release. Until then, I say "Thank You" for this one, Mr. Spiellberg.:thumbs-up-smiley:
    .

  11. Hi there :). Like to say hello, because this will be my first post.
    Have been watching this forum for quite a while and especially Mr. Harris's threads, which are great. Have learned a lot from you guys, so thanks for that.

    My question about this release, which sounds like an absolute must-have, is: Was the movie watched with HDR/Dolby Vision and does it still look like a first generation print if it's not used?

    Maybe a retarded question and if so, sorry.

    Thanks for any information in advance.

    Iain

  12. Iain the Fox

    Hi there :). Like to say hello, because this will be my first post.
    Have been watching this forum for quite a while and especially Mr. Harris's threads, which are great. Have learned a lot from you guys, so thanks for that.

    My question about this release, which sounds like an absolute must-have, is: Was the movie watched with HDR/Dolby Vision and does it still look like a first generation print if it's not used?

    Maybe a retarded question and if so, sorry.

    Thanks for any information in advance.

    Iain

    Iain,

    Welcome to HTF.

    HDR/DV do not affect the generational appearance. They affect black levels, shadow detail, highlights, et al.

    I viewed with HDR10, which was used discriminately.

    Quality presentation, all around.

  13. Michael Osadciw

    Didn't the latest Blu-ray suffer from the Patton effect? I'm hoping the 4K of Jurassic Park isn't like T2.

    The 4K version on iTunes looks very much like the original blu-ray release. Overly digitally processed (maybe edge enhancement) with heavy grain. The 3D version was degrained supposedly to help with the conversion.

  14. Robert Harris

    Iain,

    Welcome to HTF.

    HDR/DV do not affect the generational appearance. They affect black levels, shadow detail, highlights, et al.

    I viewed with HDR10, which was used discriminately.

    Quality presentation, all around.

    Thank you very much for the information and the warm welcome :). Now I just need to save up for the needed gear to start watching 4K UHDs.

  15. It looks like the studios are “getting” why people would buy these titles in UHD in the first place. Great to hear, thanks for the review !

  16. Ah, it's Tuesday (again). Finally. A whole week has passed after this exciting news.
    Guessing it's now safe to spend the gas money and get myself to Best Buy.:)

  17. PMF

    Ah, it's Tuesday (again). Finally. A whole week has passed after this exciting news.
    Guessing it's now safe to spend the gas money and get myself to Best Buy.:)

    My copy showed up in my mailbox yesterday — no gas money spent. 😉

  18. Gary Reber of WSR says:

    "The 1.85:1 2160p HEVC/H.265 Ultra HD HDR10 picture, reviewed on a Sony Bravia Z9D 4K Ultra HD HDR display, was photographed on 35mm Kodak film stock using Aaton 35-III, Moviecam SL, Panavision Panaflex Platinum and Panavision Panastar cameras in the Academy Standard Flat format and sourced from a 2K (not 4K) master Digital Intermediate format. As the 2K Digital Intermediate has been upconverted to 2160p, there is no real gain in native resolution."

    This is not the first time I've casually visited WSR reading his claim that titles are from 2K masters when everyone else on the net says they're from 4K. He then goes on to contradict himself:

    "This impeccable rendering is even more impressively and complexly detailed in this 4K Ultra HD edition in terms of war-weathered facial features, including pores and hair, layered skin grime and sweat and blood, and object textures; especially visible on soldiers' helmets, the sand particles on the Normandy beach, and the war-torn stone façades of Ramelle depicting bullet holes, broken concrete, and debris."

    Any thoughts on this?

  19. Michael Osadciw

    Gary Reber of WSR says:

    "The 1.85:1 2160p HEVC/H.265 Ultra HD HDR10 picture, reviewed on a Sony Bravia Z9D 4K Ultra HD HDR display, was photographed on 35mm Kodak film stock using Aaton 35-III, Moviecam SL, Panavision Panaflex Platinum and Panavision Panastar cameras in the Academy Standard Flat format and sourced from a 2K (not 4K) master Digital Intermediate format. As the 2K Digital Intermediate has been upconverted to 2160p, there is no real gain in native resolution."

    This is not the first time I've casually visited WSR reading his claim that titles are from 2K masters when everyone else on the net says they're from 4K. He then goes on to contradict himself:

    "This impeccable rendering is even more impressively and complexly detailed in this 4K Ultra HD edition in terms of war-weathered facial features, including pores and hair, layered skin grime and sweat and blood, and object textures; especially visible on soldiers' helmets, the sand particles on the Normandy beach, and the war-torn stone façades of Ramelle depicting bullet holes, broken concrete, and debris."

    Any thoughts on this?

    Yeah. He doesn’t know what he’s talking about. 😀

  20. I once read his Journal publication in the early to mid 1990s as definitive. It's been many, many years since I've felt that way…probably mid-2000s. There's still the odd read of interest. But yes, the UHD reviews are questionable. He said the same of ET, that it was from a 2K scan. There's a review of The Doors's last concert on Blu-ray yet it was written like a 4K UHD title. It might be a case of cut-and paste going wrong with many of his reviews.

    I only go to HTF and TDB for disc reviews.

  21. Michael Osadciw

    Gary Reber of WSR says:

    "The 1.85:1 2160p HEVC/H.265 Ultra HD HDR10 picture, reviewed on a Sony Bravia Z9D 4K Ultra HD HDR display, was photographed on 35mm Kodak film stock using Aaton 35-III, Moviecam SL, Panavision Panaflex Platinum and Panavision Panastar cameras in the Academy Standard Flat format and sourced from a 2K (not 4K) master Digital Intermediate format. As the 2K Digital Intermediate has been upconverted to 2160p, there is no real gain in native resolution."

    This is not the first time I've casually visited WSR reading his claim that titles are from 2K masters when everyone else on the net says they're from 4K. He then goes on to contradict himself:

    "This impeccable rendering is even more impressively and complexly detailed in this 4K Ultra HD edition in terms of war-weathered facial features, including pores and hair, layered skin grime and sweat and blood, and object textures; especially visible on soldiers' helmets, the sand particles on the Normandy beach, and the war-torn stone façades of Ramelle depicting bullet holes, broken concrete, and debris."

    Any thoughts on this?

    Strikes me as nonsensical. Saving Private Ryan predates digital intermediates by several years.

  22. Michael Osadciw

    Gary Reber of WSR says:

    "The 1.85:1 2160p HEVC/H.265 Ultra HD HDR10 picture, reviewed on a Sony Bravia Z9D 4K Ultra HD HDR display, was photographed on 35mm Kodak film stock using Aaton 35-III, Moviecam SL, Panavision Panaflex Platinum and Panavision Panastar cameras in the Academy Standard Flat format and sourced from a 2K (not 4K) master Digital Intermediate format. As the 2K Digital Intermediate has been upconverted to 2160p, there is no real gain in native resolution."

    This is not the first time I've casually visited WSR reading his claim that titles are from 2K masters when everyone else on the net says they're from 4K. He then goes on to contradict himself:

    Any thoughts on this?

    It's corrected.

  23. titch

    It's corrected.

    It may be corrected, but that may have occurred because of comments that it was in error, and at least partially, Mr. Reber’s comments are correct.

    I believe the cut camera neg in question was a mix of production footage, with shots via the digital realm, in 2k.

    Which means that a new 4k scan of the OCN, would be inclusive of 2k digital shots, ie 2k DI.

    RAH

  24. atfree

    Don't have the UHD yet, but watched my blu-ray today as I do every Memorial Day. And shed tears, as I do every time I see it.

    Earn this.

    We owe those who have served our nation, far more than most people can imagine.

    I didn’t fully understand this, until I had discussion with a friend who had fought his way up the beach at Iwo Jima, and was there to see the raising of the actual (small) flag, before it was re-enacted for the press.

    We owe them thanks for our freedom.

  25. This morning I watched Gettysburg which was the 4.5 hr version of the film. Then this afternoon, I watched Saving Private Ryan on 4K/UHD disc. Just like the first time I viewed SPR in a movie theater, I was again emotionally spent after my afternoon viewing. It's a very difficult film for me to watch as I think of all those young men that died during that terrible war and the millions of innocent people that died because of it. A very sad chapter in the book on humanity as we had very little of humanity during those terrible years. Such a tragedy due to some evil men and the lack of humanity that consume them in their need for power and domination.

  26. Robert Crawford

    It's a very difficult film for me to watch as I think of all those young men that died during that terrible war and the millions of innocent people that died because of it.

    The older I get, the more that messes with me. The world was turned into a graveyard and their bravery saved us all.

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