As most people are aware, the musical Oliver!, which appeared first in London and then on Broadway in 1963, after a London run three years earlier, is based upon David Lean’s 1948 Cineguild production Oliver Twist, with a screenplay b Stanley Haynes.

The 1968 film, based upon the musical play, is a magnificent affair in all regards.

It has now been brought back to fighting shape by Grover Crisp and his team, based substantially upon the original 35mm negative, which had been used to strike 70mm prints for the original release.

The most important point to recognize is that one would never know that the original elements had been put through optical printers.

The new 4k release, which is part of Columbia’s second 4k collection of “greatest hits,” is a magnificent affair pictorially, with audio brought up to Atmos standards.

Color, grain structure, stability, black levels, all beautifully rendered.

In projection, it all looks and sounds superb.

One of the great filmed musical entertainments.

Image – 5 (HDR)

Audio – 5 (Dolby Atmos)

Pass / Fail – Pass

Plays nicely with projectors – Yes

Makes use of and works well in 4k – 4

Very Highly Recommended

RAH
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One of the all-time great films. I never get tired of it. It is a definite improvement over the old blu ray. And they've included some nice extras. I would have liked to have seen more -- for instance an interview with Shani Wallis. And, for some reason, the digital download is not in 4K.
 

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One of the all-time great films. I never get tired of it. It looks very good on this remaster. And they've included some nice extras. But, for some reason, the digital download is not in 4K.
Are you actually DOWNLOADING it to your local device, or do you mean the streamed version is not 4K?
 

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One of the all-time great films. I never get tired of it. It is a definite improvement over the old blu ray. And they've included some nice extras. I would have liked to have seen more -- for instance an interview with Shani Wallis. And, for some reason, the digital download is not in 4K.
Are you actually DOWNLOADING it to your local device, or do you mean the streamed version is not 4K?
It's another digital screw up with the redemption code. On Vudu, my digital is in 4K with Dolby Vision and Atmos. On MA, it's in 4K without any HDR and in 5.1 audio. On iTunes, it's HD only with 5.1 audio.

The industry needs to fix these snafus. I can understand why people have concerns about purchasing digitals and streaming in general.
 

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Yes, the digital download streaming version is not in 4K for some reason. It is only in HD. It is the new remaster, though and not the old version.
I just wanted to make sure you weren't talking about actually trying to download a copy to a computer or a phone/tablet to view offline. When you do, 4K titles are limited to HD resolution. Looks like there are problems aplenty with the streaming versions of these Columbia Classics round two titles.
 

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It's another digital screw up with the redemption code. On Vudu, my digital is in 4K with Dolby Vision and Atmos. On MA, it's in 4K without any HDR and in 5.1 audio. On iTunes, it's HD only with 5.1 audio.

The industry needs to fix these snafus. I can understand why people have concerns about purchasing digitals and streaming in general.
I couldn't agree more. It's embarrassing. Maybe it's part of a secret industry plan to bring back the glory days of disc sales? :laugh:
 

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(I guess the download issue is an iTunes issue. I won't dwell on it.) Columbia did a great job with this. It has a filmlike graininess but nice colors and more details in the faces than we've seen before. I want to praise them for giving us original poster artwork on the case. They also included a very thorough and informative commentary which is rare these days. It is outstanding. They also give us Jack Wild's original screentest which is a revelation. He is perfection. They give us an interview with Mark Lester who played Oliver and Ron Moody who played Fagin. There are also dance tutorials on a few of the songs they call dance alongs as well as some sing alongs. There is also a vintage making of featurette which was included on the old blu rays as well. Hats off, Columbia!
 

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Is there a new Blu Ray with all the new Bonus features and new transfer, or is that only on the 4k disc, or exclusive to the box set...?
A reviewer on another site has confirmed that the bundled Blu-ray is a brand new version featuring the new transfer, as well as additional supplements. However yes, the new Blu-ray is at this time exclusive to the box set.
 
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I'll be the fly in the ointment. I loathe that these are exclusive bundles of movies that have nothing in common except that they're available in 4K. As much as there are certain titles I want, I'm not going to have Sony (or anyone else) tell me what I have to buy and I'm not adding anymore oversized boxes to my shelves.

There, I said it.

(Don't mind me, I'll just be sitting over here on the bitter couch)
 

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I'll be the fly in the ointment. I loathe that these are exclusive bundles of movies that have nothing in common except that they're available in 4K. As much as there are certain titles I want, I'm not going to have Sony (or anyone else) tell me what I have to buy and I'm not adding anymore oversized boxes to my shelves.

There, I said it.

(Don't mind me, I'll just be sitting over here on the bitter couch)
I'll be the fly in the ointment and tell you that Sony isn't telling you what you have to buy, it's simply offering a selection of titles to purchase, if you care to do so or not.:) In your case, you care not and all is well in the world.;)
 

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There have been repeated assertions that this is just some random selection of titles - it is not. Before Vol 1 and Vol 2, Sony held polls (which also were also posted on this website) with over 90 titles with elements available for 4K UHD. All the titles in these box sets were on the polls and several titles have subsequently been released separately. No surprise then that the sets and titles sell well. And the boxes fit on a standard DVD/blu-ray shelf.
 

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Other than STRANGELOVE, Which?
In Europe, Gandhi, Dr. Stangelove and Jerry Maguire have been released on separate UHDs from the Volume 1 set.

From the 2019 Sony poll, these titles have subsequently been released as stand-alone titles:
Big Fish
21 Jump Street/22 Jump Street
In The Line Of Fire
Last Action Hero
Looper
Snatch
The Mask Of Zorro
Whiplash

Sense and Sensibility (1995) and Stripes both turned up in the Volume 2 set.

From the 2020 Sony poll:
2012
Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within
The Guns Of Navarone
 

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In Europe, Gandhi, Dr. Stangelove and Jerry Maguire have been released on separate UHDs from the Volume 1 set.

From the 2019 Sony poll, these titles have subsequently been released as stand-alone titles:
Big Fish
21 Jump Street/22 Jump Street
In The Line Of Fire
Last Action Hero
Looper
Snatch
The Mask Of Zorro
Whiplash

Sense and Sensibility (1995) and Stripes both turned up in the Volume 2 set.

From the 2020 Sony poll:
2012
Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within
The Guns Of Navarone

I was specifically asking about the titles found in the box sets rather than the titles from the poll that they released as stand alones but I appreciate you answering me. I had looked them up already and the only JERRY MAGUIRE I was able to locate was a version from Hong Kong rather than Europe so I wasn't counting it.

It still seems random to me as to which titles were made available as stand alones and which are "offered" only as part of a bundle but to each his own. If everyone else is happy then I surely am.