A few words about…™ – Giant — in 4k UHD

Giant 4k UHD Review
To me, and a few others, one of the greatest films ever made – a huge tale of America, even more telling almost seventy years after it was released. It’s a film far ahead of its time, concerning racial issues.

Produced in 1955, it looks correct in a 1.66 aspect ratio.

Problem with Giant is the way it was handled in post. Thousands of feet of horrific dupes, from which there’s no escape.

Newly scanned in 4k, and with a slightly updated color palette, it has a bit more life than the old Blu-ray.

If you walk up to a projection screen, you’ll see a tiny bit more detail in 4k, but at a normal seating distance, not so much. It is what it is.

And what it is, is extraordinary, from first frame to last.

The imagery comes up a bit brighter, and those dupes possibly have a tiny bit more shadow information, but they still look like what they are – soft, poorly produced dupes on the early Eastman Color stock.

If only.

If only, this film had been set for dye transfer printing instead of Warner Color, but it wasn’t. That would be something devoutly to be wished.

What you’re getting in 4k is everything that’s on the original element.

The new 4k is a bare bones affair – no George Stevens documentary. You’ll have to keep your Dean collector for that on a separate disc. But you do get the wonderful commentary by Mr. Stevens, Jr., Ivan Moffat and Stephen Farber.

Image – 5 (HDR)

Audio – 5 (DTS-HD MA 2.0)

Pass / Fail – Pass

Plays nicely with projectors – Beautifully

Makes use of and works well in 4k – 3.75

Upgrade from Blu-ray – If you love the film

Very Highly Recommended

RAH

Robert has been known in the film industry for his unmatched skill and passion in film preservation. Growing up around photography, his first home theater experience began at age ten with 16mm. Years later he was running 35 and 70mm at home.

His restoration projects have breathed new life into classic films like Lawrence of Arabia, Vertigo, My Fair Lady, Spartacus, and The Godfather series. Beyond his restoration work, he has also shared his expertise through publications, contributing to the academic discourse on film restoration. The Academy Film Archive houses the Robert A. Harris Collection, a testament to his significant contributions to film preservation.

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I have 4K Blu-ray player, 4K Receiver, but not a 4K television yet. Some (but not all) 4K discs present darker than the previous blu-ray version. Can anyone explain to me why this is? I haven't seen the "Giant" 4K yet (soon), but as Mr. Harris states it's a bit brighter than the old disc, I wonder . . . .

Thank you.
 

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I have 4K Blu-ray player, 4K Receiver, but not a 4K television yet. Some (but not all) 4K discs present darker than the previous blu-ray version. Can anyone explain to me why this is? I haven't seen the "Giant" 4K yet (soon), but as Mr. Harris states it's a bit brighter than the old disc, I wonder . . . .

Thank you.
When overall darker, it seems to be the way the system registers HDR.
 

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I have 4K Blu-ray player, 4K Receiver, but not a 4K television yet. Some (but not all) 4K discs present darker than the previous blu-ray version. Can anyone explain to me why this is? I haven't seen the "Giant" 4K yet (soon), but as Mr. Harris states it's a bit brighter than the old disc, I wonder . . . .

Thank you.
If you don't have a 4K display, that means your setup is doing an HDR->SDR conversion on any 4K content you play, and therein lies the rub. Sometimes things will look OK and sometimes they won't.
 

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This thread probably isn't the place for yet another discussion about 4K looking darker in some instances.
That subject almost calls for its own sticky thread, just to keep it from sidetracking others. It's a valid problem for some people, but it should be a discussion of its own.
 

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That subject almost calls for its own sticky thread, just to keep it from sidetracking others. It's a valid problem for some people, but it should be a discussion of its own.
Yep, something like HDR on different display types and configuration options.

Going back to Giant I am curious to see how much better it will look since I am not interested in the sizzle of specular highlights. So far especially with grainy films I always found grain reproduction to be improved at closer seating distances so that alone could be worth it.
 

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That subject almost calls for its own sticky thread, just to keep it from sidetracking others. It's a valid problem for some people, but it should be a discussion of its own.
Well, is anybody going to start a thread so I can sticky it?
 

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Yep, something like HDR on different display types and configuration options.

Going back to Giant I am curious to see how much better it will look since I am not interested in the sizzle of specular highlights. So far especially with grainy films I always found grain reproduction to be improved at closer seating distances so that alone could be worth it.
It appears that HDR was gently wafted above this one. All prior problems acknowledged, it’s a lovely release.
 
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