A few words about…™ Bohemian Rhapsody & A Star is Born (2018) — in 4k UHD Blu-ray

It is neither through disrespect, nor negligence, that I combine the comments on two of the major 4k Blu-ray releases from the 2018 season.

Each in its own way, defines a specific style, both cinematographically as well as aurally, and both are reproduced on tiny CD-sized discs with immense resolution, and “break your lease” Dolby Atmos audio.

They both have approximately the same running time (134 minutes for Bohemian Rhapsody / 136 for Star is Born). Both share the same aspect ratio. So compression should be similar.

Bohemian Rhapsody was shot generally large format with an Arri Alexa 65, while ASiB was shot with an Arri Alexa Mini, and both are magnificent on 4k disc, with a bit of help from nicely used HDR. ASiB is encoded for Dolby Vision.

My purpose here is not to review the two films, which at this point need no further reviews, but rather to make the point that we have reached a technological state via which the theatrical experience, short of screen size, can be accurately reproduced in one’s home theater.

We’ve come a long way from Arrival of a Train, so beautifully captured by the Lumiere Brothers, and Rescued by Rover, as directed by Fitzhamon and Hepworth, and even the best of Berkeley.

Our ability to properly reproduce color and audio will most assuredly make further “advances,” especially with 8k on the horizon, but I’m not seeing any necessity to raise our current technical specifications, as the human eyes and ears are reasonably well tapped out.

Both of these releases are of magisterial proportions, and like a handful of 4k releases that came before them, should make it very difficult to anyone not to make the move to 4k and Dolby Atmos, even if that move might necessitate a new partner, or the need (as someone else noted) to relinquish a minor Picasso.

With all of the discussion regarding 8k, and further additions of speakers and amps, it seems that we’ve hit a point with our current technology, at which ones eyes and ears will not be able to either differentiate or appreciate further upgrades.

At this point, we break into two disparate camps. Flat panel and projection.

Current OLED flat panels may find ways forward. Those that may roll up into a ceiling mount, and span over 120 inches in width, and are able to solve the problems of black levels and high illumination we still have in projection.

But beyond that, this may be a huge problem for home theater hardware manufacturers, because we can finally rest comfortably – which we were never able to do from VHS, Laser, CED, Beta or HD – that (yes, I’m repeating) what we have in our homes capably and accurately reproduces what we saw and heard in theaters (or betters that experience), and that there may no longer be a logical way forward toward built-in obsolescence.

My intent here is not to damn 8k, which is a wonderful halo product, but to take a rational perspective and where we are, and where we may or may not need to go.

For those unaware, both of these films deserve your attention, and both should be in any serious library.

Image – 5

Audio – 5

Pass / Fail – Pass

Very Highly Recommended

RAH

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136 Comments

  1. Robert Harris

    For those unaware, both of these films deserve your attention, and both should be in any serious library.

    I agree. However both are polarizing to different degrees as will be apparent from the posts forthcoming below. 😀

  2. Tino

    I agree. However both are polarizing to different degrees as will be apparent from the posts forthcoming below. 😀

    One film more so than the other, since, it's based on real people while the other is mainly fiction based on previous film versions.

  3. Tino

    Slight correction RAH. It’s Live Aid.

    Better than confusing it with Band or Rite … 😉
    Sharon Osbourne – spouse of Ozzy said that the scenes backstage in BR at Live Aid were not realistic. As opposed to the backstage scenes ASiB-2018. Which Ms. Osbourne -a concert promoter, manager etc. said were more realistic – (she was stating why she was upset Mr. Cooper did not get a Best Director Oscar nomination)

    I plan to get both films on 4K disc

  4. Well said, Mr. Harris. It's an exciting time for A/V, a millions miles from when I'd hook my boombox to the VCR to add more aural oomph to the VHS pan-and-scan rental of Apocalypse Now I was watching on the family's 20" color CRT.

  5. Just rec’d my copy of BH UHD, ready for Valentine’s Day after dinner and beverages 😉
    Equipment-wise I’m a happy camper , buying UHD new releases and only upgrading when the existing BD transfer is poor.
    Epson 5040, Oppo 203, Marantz SR6011, Emotiva XPA2 300 wpc, SVS Ultra speakers & subs.
    :-O

  6. Hi RAH! For once, I'm ready and willing to agree with the general "we've reached the point of diminishing returns" in terms of home video reproduction with regards to the current state of 4K HDR + Atmos setups that can be affordably (relatively) purchased.

    A variant of this statement was said for DVD, then HD, (not by you, but by others in years past) neither of which I was comfortable with supporting. I was tempted to agree with 1080p HD, but blowing that up to a 120" screen made me change my mind. Now with 4K UHD/HDR…unless you're running an IMAX screen at home you're not going to tell the difference. And having just set up an Atmos 5.1.2 at home…I find it audibly indistinguishable from a theater. Same excitement, punch, directionality and visceral effect (I run PSA and Hsu subs so I can shake the room if needed). I can't imagine what a 5.1.4 or 7.1.4 (which my receiver can do, I just haven't bothered to buy more speakers) would sound like, but I truly have the ability to recreate the theatrical experience at home in a way that the only difference is screen size. And that's just a function of my wallet and not the technology. If at some point I can buy a true 4K HDR front projector and put up a 120" screen at home…given seating distance and field-of-view coverage I'll essentially have fully recreated a theater at home.

  7. 'A Star is Born' is my pick for Best Picture of the Year. However, my recommendation is quite lacking in that I've only seen two of the nominated Best Picture films (the other being 'Black Panther').

    Now that it is available for rental, I am contemplating seeing 'Bohemian Rhapsody'. The problem is, I'm not really a fan of Queen's music. I don't hate their music, but I wouldn't go out of my way to listen to it.

    I'm not a fan of the film 'Wayne's World', which I watched once and went "Meh!" So the notably used 'Bohemian Rhapsody' number in that film isn't a draw for me either.

    Frankly, my hesitation in watching the film is my concern that I'll despise it. And if I despise it and it wins Best Picture, then I'll despise the Academy voters.

    But 'A Star is Born' is FABULOUS filmmaking. If Lady Gaga doesn't get Best Actress it had better go to Glenn Close ('The Wife') or there will be more hell to pay.

    We'll be showing 'A Star is Born' in the Booth Bijou Garage Theater the first weekend in March. I'm really looking forward to seeing it again.

    Mark

  8. Mark Booth

    'A Star is Born' is my pick for Best Picture of the Year. However, my recommendation is quite lacking in that I've only seen two of the nominated Best Picture films (the other being 'Black Panther').

    Now that it is available for rental, I am contemplating seeing 'Bohemian Rhapsody'. The problem is, I'm not really a fan of Queen's music. I don't hate their music, but I wouldn't go out of my way to listen to it.

    I'm not a fan of the film 'Wayne's World', which I watched once and went "Meh!" So the notably used 'Bohemian Rhapsody' number in that film isn't a draw for me either.

    Frankly, my hesitation in watching the film is my concern that I'll despise it. And if I despise it and it wins Best Picture, then I'll despise the Academy voters.

    But 'A Star is Born' is FABULOUS filmmaking. If Lady Gaga doesn't get Best Actress it had better go to Glenn Close ('The Wife') or there will be more hell to pay.

    We'll be showing 'A Star is Born' in the Booth Bijou Garage Theater the first weekend in March. I'm really looking forward to seeing it again.

    Mark

    I've seen 7 of the 8 BP noms and "ASIB" is easily the best of that bunch, IMO.

    Watched it a second time on the 4K disc last weekend and liked it as much as I did theatrically.

    I doubt it'll win but it should!

  9. Mark Booth

    But 'A Star is Born' is FABULOUS filmmaking. If Lady Gaga doesn't get Best Actress it had better go to Glenn Close ('The Wife') or there will be more hell to pay.

    I love both performances from Close and Gaga but I hope Olivia Coleman wins for The Favourite. She blows them both away I thought.

  10. Mark Booth

    […]Frankly, my hesitation in watching ["Bohemian Rhapsody"] is my concern that I'll despise it.[…]

    Never mind the Queen aspects, Mark;
    go into "Bohemian Rhapsody" knowing that you'll be witness to an uncanny tour-de-force performance by Rami Malek;
    the hands down winner for this year's Best Actor.:cool:

    Mark Booth

    […]If Lady Gaga doesn't get Best Actress it had better go to Glenn Close ('The Wife') or there will be more hell to pay.[…]

    Understand the Gaga aspects entirely, but it is Lady Glenn's turn.
    Ms. Close, since her first nomination, has endured a 36 year waiting period for Oscar;
    and this win will not be a sympathy award, either; for this is acting at its best.:thumbs-up-smiley:

    Mark Booth

    […]We'll be showing 'A Star is Born' in the Booth Bijou Garage Theater the first weekend in March. I'm really looking forward to seeing it again.

    You've got lucky neighbors.:)

  11. Carlo Medina

    I plan to buy ASIB sight unseen, but just had a funny thought in that I recently re-watched The Hangover and that was my first real, memorable experience of Bradley Cooper in a starring role. What a career trajectory!

    The first time I "noticed" Cooper was as the d-bag fiance in "Wedding Crashers"…

  12. Matt Hough

    I remember him as the lovelorn love interest on TV in Alias.

    I remember how everyone hated his character on Alias and when he got written off that show, I thought "Gee, that poor guy's career is probably ruined now." I can call 'em. 🙂

  13. Mark Booth

    'A Star is Born' is my pick for Best Picture of the Year. However, my recommendation is quite lacking in that I've only seen two of the nominated Best Picture films (the other being 'Black Panther').

    Now that it is available for rental, I am contemplating seeing 'Bohemian Rhapsody'. The problem is, I'm not really a fan of Queen's music. I don't hate their music, but I wouldn't go out of my way to listen to it.

    I'm not a fan of the film 'Wayne's World', which I watched once and went "Meh!" So the notably used 'Bohemian Rhapsody' number in that film isn't a draw for me either.

    Frankly, my hesitation in watching the film is my concern that I'll despise it. And if I despise it and it wins Best Picture, then I'll despise the Academy voters.

    But 'A Star is Born' is FABULOUS filmmaking. If Lady Gaga doesn't get Best Actress it had better go to Glenn Close ('The Wife') or there will be more hell to pay.

    We'll be showing 'A Star is Born' in the Booth Bijou Garage Theater the first weekend in March. I'm really looking forward to seeing it again.

    Mark

    People made the same statement about Judy Garland winning for 1954's A Star is Born but she was robbed.

  14. Carlo Medina

    Hi RAH! For once, I'm ready and willing to agree with the general "we've reached the point of diminishing returns" in terms of home video reproduction with regards to the current state of 4K HDR + Atmos setups that can be affordably (relatively) purchased.

    A variant of this statement was said for DVD, then HD, (not by you, but by others in years past) neither of which I was comfortable with supporting. I was tempted to agree with 1080p HD, but blowing that up to a 120" screen made me change my mind. Now with 4K UHD/HDR…unless you're running an IMAX screen at home you're not going to tell the difference. And having just set up an Atmos 5.1.2 at home…I find it audibly indistinguishable from a theater. Same excitement, punch, directionality and visceral effect (I run PSA and Hsu subs so I can shake the room if needed). I can't imagine what a 5.1.4 or 7.1.4 (which my receiver can do, I just haven't bothered to buy more speakers) would sound like, but I truly have the ability to recreate the theatrical experience at home in a way that the only difference is screen size. And that's just a function of my wallet and not the technology. If at some point I can buy a true 4K HDR front projector and put up a 120" screen at home…given seating distance and field-of-view coverage I'll essentially have fully recreated a theater at home.

    Although I have a 4k panel, I'm fine with 1080p for projecting. Ditto for 3D which I find to be more indispensable than flat 2D in any format.

  15. My wife and I talked about it and we are seriously considering renting 'Bohemian Rhapsody' tomorrow. It's going to be raining all day long and we'd rather stay off the streets as much as possible. Too many Californians that don't now how to drive in the rain.

    Mark

  16. I have seen all the BP noms thus far…save Star. I will watch next week after I bring home the Steelbook…as I did, last night, for BH. I am about to finish my audio makeover soon. Once I do…I will be tearing into my setup as I have yet to truly do so since going 4K in 2017. I formally launch this weekend. Then, I will view BH in all of its glory!!!!

  17. Tina_H_V

    I am about to finish my audio makeover soon. Once I do…I will be tearing into my setup as I have yet to truly do so since going 4K in 2017. I formally launch this weekend.

    Congrats, Tina!

    Don't forget to rent those big trucks with the oversized spotlights to park out in front of your house! 😀

  18. WOW! I now regret not going to see 'Bohemian Rhapsody' in the theater! What a terrific film! My wife and I were enthralled from start to finish. We both teared up at the end. Hell, I think I even felt a few chills as the group performed.

    I don't think I'll be listening to Queen albums in my car, but I definitely have a new appreciation for the group. And Rami Malek gave what will surely be voted the Best Actor performance of the year. Step aside, Bradley Cooper, I'm rooting for Malek.

    But Best Picture? My vote would still go to 'A Star is Born'.

    Robert and everyone, thank you posting your comments. They encouraged us to see this fine fine film! We'll be showing it in the Booth Bijou in March.

    Mark

  19. Mark Booth

    WOW! I now regret not going to see 'Bohemian Rhapsody' in the theater! What a terrific film! My wife and I were enthralled from start to finish. We both teared up at the end. Hell, I think I even felt a few chills as the group performed.

    I don't think I'll be listening to Queen albums in my car, but I definitely have a new appreciation for the group. And Rami Malek gave what will surely be voted the Best Actor performance of the year. Step aside, Bradley Cooper, I'm rooting for Malek.

    But Best Picture? My vote would still go to 'A Star is Born'.

    Robert and everyone, thank you posting your comments. They encouraged us to see this fine fine film! We'll be showing it in the Booth Bijou in March.

    Mark

    Are you listening @Jake Lipson ?;)

  20. Totally agree with everything RAH has said about the excellent current state of our home theater reproduction. It's so much better than many local theaters with their complete disregard for quality control. The only thing missing for me is the total abandonment of the 3D feature in the 4K spec and current attitude of electronic manufactures that home 3D technology never existed. It's still surprising to me that something that is a niche market and still could be offered at so little production cost to high end sets is foolishly denied to the fans that enjoy and have collections of 3D Blu-ray features. In my opinion good 3D is much more of an enjoyable feature than 4K. Regardless of what one thinks about it, and I know the haters out there are legion, no one is forced to watch a film in 3D so why deprive those of us that do from our enjoyment.

  21. SFMike

    Totally agree with everything RAH has said about the excellent current state of our home theater reproduction. It's so much better than many local theaters with their complete disregard for quality control. The only thing missing for me is the total abandonment of the 3D feature in the 4K spec and current attitude of electronic manufactures that home 3D technology never existed. It's still surprising to me that something that is a niche market and still could be offered at so little production cost to high end sets is foolishly denied to the fans that enjoy and have collections of 3D Blu-ray features. In my opinion good 3D is much more of an enjoyable feature than 4K. Regardless of what one thinks about it, and I know the haters out there are legion, no one is forced to watch a film in 3D so why deprive those of us that do from our enjoyment.

    Because the studios believe 4K is going to be more profitable than 3D and they don't give a rip about their consumers. They want to force people from 3D to 4K. That tactic won't work for many of the 3D hardliners, but they must think such people are small in numbers.

  22. Robert Crawford

    Because the studios believe 4K is going to be more profitable than 3D and they don't give a rip about their consumers. They want to force people from 3D to 4K. That tactic won't work for many of the 3D hardliners, but they must think such people are small in numbers.

    Can't entirely blame the studios since 3D has been discarded with new TVs.

    Hard to market something that isn't even an option on TVs produced over the last few years, whereas 4K is available on virtually all TVs now sold…

  23. Colin Jacobson

    Can't entirely blame the studios since 3D has been discarded with new TVs.

    Hard to market something that isn't even an option on TVs produced over the last few years, whereas 4K is available on virtually all TVs now sold…

    Agreed. For a few years I was buying the 3D versions just in case, but the one 3D TV I had died and any reasonably priced 4K replacement that I wanted didn't have 3D as an option.

  24. Robert Crawford

    Because the studios believe 4K is going to be more profitable than 3D and they don't give a rip about their consumers. They want to force people from 3D to 4K. That tactic won't work for many of the 3D hardliners, but they must think such people are small in numbers.

    The general public wasn't buying into 3D do to several hurdles, studios weren't "forcing" people to ditch 3D and go 4K. People didn't WANT 3D at home to the level many had hope so it naturally was killed off. No secret agenda by anyone. The consumers spoke and that was it.

    And I'm sure in relation to all at home viewers, 3D people are quite a small number overall now. And shrinking if their TV's are dying off.

  25. Though it's true that the general public isn't interested in 3D, there's no reason why 3D capability can't be made standard in the more high-end sets that will cost more regardless. Just because 3D capability is present doesn't mean it has to be utilized. I, for one, have little interest in a 4K TV solely because of the lack of 3D for my handful of '50s titles.

  26. JQuintana

    The general public wasn't buying into 3D do to several hurdles, studios weren't "forcing" people to ditch 3D and go 4K. People didn't WANT 3D at home to the level many had hope so it naturally was killed off. No secret agenda by anyone. The consumers spoke and that was it.

    And I'm sure in relation to all at home viewers, 3D people are quite a small number overall now. And shrinking if their TV's are dying off.

    I, myself, have not pursued 3-D. But it wasn't about any aversion to the format, at all. So, with that said, I had always taken a vestige HTF interest in those who have; and I was immediately sorry to learn that their passions for 3-D were beginning to show signs of obstacles.
    Needless obstacles, from either the stand-point of those who manufactured the players and/or the displays. 3-D was a format that I was open to; but my developing appreciations for it began at about the same time of its unfortunate transitions out. I, myself; with only 3 titles in tow; do hope to see its comeback. Oh, yes, I do believe it will happen. And why? Because 3-D is every bit as important to the contextual history of film and preservation as are any of the other titles within our celluloid heritage.

  27. Rob_Ray

    Though it's true that the general public isn't interested in 3D, there's no reason why 3D capability can't be made standard in the more high-end sets that will cost more regardless. Just because 3D capability is present doesn't mean it has to be utilized. I, for one, have little interest in a 4K TV solely because of the lack of 3D for my handful of '50s titles.

    Agree 100%. IIRC, it costs only like $5 for LG – or whoever – to add a 3D chip to their sets. (Someone please correct if this is wrong!)

    I understand this adds up on cheaper sets – a $5 chip in a $500 TV that sells 1000s will be an unnecessary expense.

    But a $5 chip in a $3000 TV that will sell a fraction as many units as that $500 TV seems like a minor expense.

    Obviously the manufacturers don't think it's worth even the most minor loss of revenue but I think this feels really greedy.

    They sold us 3D at home for years and now leave us with no options beyond projectors – which aren't practical for a lot of people…

  28. Is it really just a "$5" chip that is needed to go from being a 2D TV to 3D? Somehow I think there is more to it. What about the screen itself? If it really was that cheap and easy I'd think 3D's would be stocked everywhere.

  29. JQuintana

    Is it really just a "$5" chip that is needed to go from being a 2D TV to 3D? Somehow I think there is more to it. What about the screen itself? If it really was that cheap and easy I'd think 3D's would be stocked everywhere.

    Like I said, I might be wrong. I thought I read that the chip that allows a 4K set to be 3D is very cheap, but I could be totally off-base…

  30. Jake Lipson

    Clearly. I'm glad other people are enjoying it. I just don't care.

    (However, I'm very excited to get A Star is Born next week.)

    You are so damned stubborn.:D

    Btw when you finally see it I predict you will love it and regret not seeing it now.

  31. Jake Lipson

    Clearly. I'm glad other people are enjoying it. I just don't care.

    (However, I'm very excited to get A Star is Born next week.)

    Tino

    You are so damned stubborn.:D

    Btw when you finally see it I predict you will love it and regret not seeing it now.

    Tino, you've got to ease Mr. Lipson into these things; and by that I mean really, really gradual.
    Anyway, Tino, like he said, he's "very excited to get A Star is Bohemian.;)

  32. JQuintana

    The general public wasn't buying into 3D do to several hurdles, studios weren't "forcing" people to ditch 3D and go 4K. People didn't WANT 3D at home to the level many had hope so it naturally was killed off. No secret agenda by anyone. The consumers spoke and that was it.

    And I'm sure in relation to all at home viewers, 3D people are quite a small number overall now. And shrinking if their TV's are dying off.

    The "general public" isnt buying into 4k discs either. The Forbes article reports that 4K discs are only a 5.3% marketplace percentage. That's lower than 3D at its height. Of course, a big title on a week-by-week can hit a high-teens pctg, but bigger 3D live-action titles had mid-20s to even an over 30% marketshare. Yet the industry called it failure. At CES back in 2016, WB exec Ron Sanders mentioned that Warner research indicated UHD is much larger than the home 3D market and that it’s most certainly not a niche product.

    Uh-huh.

  33. RJ992

    The "general public" isnt buying into 4k discs either. The Forbes article reports that 4K discs are only a 5.3% marketplace percentage. That's lower than 3D at its height. Of course, a big title on a week-by-week can hit a high-teens pctg, but bigger 3D live-action titles had mid-20s to even an over 30% marketshare. Yet the industry called it failure. At CES back in 2016, WB exec Ron Sanders mentioned that Warner research indicated UHD is much larger than the home 3D market and that it’s most certainly not a niche product.

    Uh-huh.

    Wal*Mart sold out of their 4K discs (& Blu-Rays) for BH on Tuesday – I came back on Wednesday (for something else) and they had re-stocked some of the blu-rays – They had plenty of DVDs … 😎

  34. We watched it in 4K/Atmos again last night with some friends. Loved it even more than the first time! Yes, there are problems with the facts in this film but DAMN, it is a kinetic rollercoaster ride almost from start to finish, the music is AMAZEBALLS, and Rami Malek is so, so good as Mercury.

  35. KMR

    I'm still trying to figure out why some posters here and in another forum keep referring to Bohemian Rhapsody as "BH" and not "BR"…

    mea culpa: I made a mistake in my post here – possibly to due to an astigmatism that makes a capital H & R look similar …

  36. KMR

    I'm still trying to figure out why some posters here and in another forum keep referring to Bohemian Rhapsody as "BH" and not "BR"…

    Because there's an "H" in Bohemian; and an "H" in Rhapsody; and another "H" in UHD.
    We're talkin' some subliminal stuff, here.:cool:

  37. Mark Booth

    Now that it is available for rental, I am contemplating seeing 'Bohemian Rhapsody'. The problem is, I'm not really a fan of Queen's music. I don't hate their music, but I wouldn't go out of my way to listen to it.

    Frankly, my hesitation in watching the film is my concern that I'll despise it. And if I despise it and it wins Best Picture, then I'll despise the Academy voters.

    If you wouldn't go out of your way to listen to Queen's music, then you definitely shouldn't bother watching the movie. It's greatness lies in Rami Malek's performance (which you wouldn't care about Queen's music) and the music (which you don't care for). But evidently you loved it, so that shows what I know.

    And it has ZERO chance of winning Best Picture.

  38. Both of these are great films, no question about it. Saw them both in the theater and now own both on disc. Still out of the Oscar nominees, IMO the best picture is "Roma" and the best actor should go to Willem Dafoe for his portrayal of Vincent van Gogh in "At Eternity's Gate" (which, again, IMO should have gotten a best cinematography nomination, and won too). However good Rami Malek's portrayal of Freddie Mercury is, I think Dafoe's is more complex.

    As far as having reached a technological peak, I disagree. More resolution is always a good thing, especially as displays will continue to get larger. But it's not sexy enough as a selling point. So we're stuck with horrible HDR, which prevents me from enjoying any 4K disc. I guess perhaps the peak was reached with HD for me 🙂

  39. Robert Harris

    Our ability to properly reproduce color and audio will most assuredly make further "advances," especially with 8k on the horizon, but I'm not seeing any necessity to raise our current technical specifications, as the human eyes and ears are reasonably well tapped out.

    Everything's up to date in Kansas City. T:roll:hey've gone about as far as they can go. 🙂

  40. Tino

    Nope. Rami is the favorite to win best actor. Also BR will win a few technical awards too.

    He'll win and it will probably take the sound awards. I meant I can't see it winning Best Picture.

  41. They've done a pretty good job at erasing Singer's connection to the film, so I don't think it has any significant effect on the opinions about the film or its chances for awards. Yes, he's still credited, but it's not a film that's inextricably linked to him.

  42. dpippel

    I have to agree with Nick. Singer's issues have effectively torpedoed any chance that BR had of winning Best Picture.

    Say what you will about the Golden Globes, but it did win Best Picture – Drama.

  43. dpippel

    I thought we were talking about the Academy Awards, not the Golden Globes.

    The original comment was that BR has no chance of winning Best Picture because of Bryan Singer. My contention and argument is that it does have a chance at the Oscar regardless of Singer because it has already won a BP award at the Globes.

  44. And, of course, you're entitled to your opinion Jason. I just don't think that in the current environment (one in which a studio like Disney fires James Gunn for tasteless decade-old tweets) we're ever going to see a professional industry organization like the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences give that kind of acknowledgement to a movie directed by Bryan Singer. The Golden Globes are presented by a press organization. Very different IMO.

  45. When Roma wins, with it being on Netflix only, folks will be flipping their sh*t and writing all kinds of articles about why it's "bad" for Hollywood and traditional "cinema". Can't wait to see how it will play out.

  46. In all mainstream theaters like AMC, Cinemark, Regal, and countrywide? We had one local small retro theater show it weeks ago, but now there are zero theater showings in our towns.

    When I search surrounding states, nobody is showing it. Of the major markets I see Dallas has it in one single boutique cinema for example.

  47. Agree, but I was mainly addressing your initial comment about it being in theaters now. I guess that post could have used a disclaimer that it's just at boutique cinemas in a handful of towns across the country.

  48. Give me a break! Why would Peter's comment need a disclaimer? What he said was factual, and practically anyone on this forum knows that a film like Roma is NOT going to get a wide release, even if it was distributed by a traditional studio.

  49. JQuintana

    Agree, but I was mainly addressing your initial comment about it being in theaters now. I guess that post could have used a disclaimer that it's just at boutique cinemas in a handful of towns across the country.

    Or you could have checked first and not posted this incorrect information.

    JQuintana

    with it being on Netflix only,

  50. I picture the disclaimer as such:

    JQuintana

    When Roma wins, with it being on Netflix only*, folks will be flipping their sh*t and writing all kinds of articles about why it's "bad" for Hollywood and traditional "cinema". Can't wait to see how it will play out.

    *except for all the theaters is *is* playing in.

    🙂

  51. There apparently was a Wal*Mart BR blu-ray exclusive …
    [​IMG]

    It's currently listed as sold-out … too bad as it would have made a lovely ensemble with the Rhett Butler Handkerchief and Singin' in The Rain Umbrella 😉

  52. Coincidence or not?
    What if both "A Star is Born" and "Bohemian Rhapsody" were to win for Best Actress and Actor?
    Think about it; after all, you've got one who sings like a Gaga and the other who sang of "Gaga".
    Subliminal AMPAS voting is possible; but I still believe that this race will be Close.;)

  53. Tino

    Btw when you finally see it I predict you will love it and regret not seeing it now.

    We've been over this. I don't like Queen. I don't want to watch a movie about a band whose music I don't like. I'm not sure why you think that's a weird choice.

    I love the movie Jersey Boys, but I wouldn't recommend it to anybody who doesn't like Frankie Valli.

  54. Tino

    It certainly does. My opinion is just as valid as your opinion.

    Fact: Everyone has an opinion.
    Opinion: Everyone has a fact.
    Fact: There will be a Best Picture winner.
    Opinion: It may not actually happen until Monday.😀

  55. PMF

    Fact: Everyone has an opinion.
    Opinion: Everyone has a fact.
    Fact: There will be a Best Picture winner.
    Opinion: It may not actually happen until Monday.😀

    FACT: The Best Picture winner will absolutely NOT be "Bohemian Rhapsody."

  56. AcesHighStudios

    Sure, your opinion is valid. It just doesn't fit the facts of Bohemian Rhapsody having any chance of winning Best Picture, as you will discover tomorrow night.

    There are no facts. Just your opinion.

  57. AcesHighStudios

    FACT: The Best Picture winner will absolutely NOT be "Bohemian Rhapsody."

    That’s not even a bold prediction. Many are predicting it won’t win.

    But repeating that it is a fact over and over is absurd. 🙄

  58. Tino

    That’s not even a bold prediction. Many are predicting it won’t win.

    But repeating that it is a fact over and over is absurd. 🙄

    Of course it isn't a bold prediction. It's an accurate one. And the fact that MANY (as you put it) are predicting it won't win is precisely why it doesn't have a GREAT CHANCE (as you also put it) of winning. It IS a fact that it will not win since the voting has already been completed, but you'll discover the fact tomorrow night. It has only a slightly better chance of winning than "The Avengers: Infinity War," which wasn't nominated.

  59. I don’t think Bohemian Rhapsody has a real chance of winning because it was not nominated for a Best Director Oscar.

    In general, BP nominees that don’t get a BD nomination are not considered serious contenders.

    And that’s why I think Bohemian Rhapsody won’t win.

  60. Josh Steinberg

    I don’t think Bohemian Rhapsody has a real chance of winning because it was not nominated for a Best Director Oscar.

    In general, BP nominees that don’t get a BD nomination are not considered serious contenders.

    And that’s why I think Bohemian Rhapsody won’t win.

    You’re probably right but you never know. Stranger things have happened.

  61. Jake Lipson

    We've been over this. I don't like Queen. I don't want to watch a movie about a band whose music I don't like. I'm not sure why you think that's a weird choice.

    I love the movie Jersey Boys, but I wouldn't recommend it to anybody who doesn't like Frankie Valli.

    No worries Jake. I don’t think it’s weird at all. Sorry if it sounded that way.

    There another member here, Mark Booth, who felt the same way you did and had no desire to see it. Well, after seeing it he loved it.

    That’s my only point. You never know.

  62. Talk about a bunch of members going WAY off topic. Lol.
    This is a thread about the 4K DISC. NOT the Oscars .

    Time for a mod to ban some folks from the thread and clean up like they have with other threads that get derailed by users.

  63. Tino

    That’s my only point. You never know.

    That's fair. But I'm okay with that.

    I saw 84 movies in theaters last year, plus a lot of stuff on Blu-ray. But you can't see everything. I'm sure there are movies that exist in the world that I would like that I won't end up seeing for one reason or another. But I see a lot, so I can't complain.

  64. Jake Lipson

    That's fair. But I'm okay with that.

    I saw 84 movies in theaters last year, plus a lot of stuff on Blu-ray. But you can't see everything. I'm sure there are movies that exist in the world that I would like that I won't end up seeing for one reason or another. But I see a lot, so I can't complain.

    Not to beat a dead horse Jake, but I'll echo Tino's sentiments about Bohemian Rhapsody. Don't let your opinion of Queen's music prevent you from seeing a very entertaining film and a spectacular lead performance (which I think Rami Malek will win Best Actor for). I'm not a real Lady Gaga fan, for example, but I enjoyed A Star is Born all the same.

    I'll make you a deal. I will loan you my Blu-ray copy of Bohemian Rhapsody if you'll watch it. No cost to you but your time. PM me if you're interested and I'll be happy to drop it in the mail to you. 😉

  65. I'm watching both of these titles on 4K/UHD tomorrow morning and afternoon before the Oscar ceremonies. This will be my third viewing of "A Star is Born" and my second viewing of "Bohemian Rhapsody". Both films deserved their nominations and good luck to them for the actual awards. I'm going to be cranking up the volume in Crawdaddy's HT starting tomorrow morning. I hope I don't wake my neighbors.:)

  66. I watched them both recently and they look and sound tremendous. The Atmos on both really gave my system a workout.

    Two terrific films with great lead performances and great music.

    And of course, obviously, ymmv.

  67. Josh Steinberg

    I don’t think Bohemian Rhapsody has a real chance of winning because it was not nominated for a Best Director Oscar.

    In general, BP nominees that don’t get a BD nomination are not considered serious contenders.

    You're right, but exceptions do exist, and I think BP winners without BD noms are gonna be more common in the era of the "up to 10" BP noms.

    IIRC, "Argo" won BP without a BD nom – I believe that's the most recent example.

    And going back 30 years, "Driving Miss Daisy" did it even in the 5-nom era.

    It seems even more possible this year because 1 of the 5 BD noms went to a director of a movie that didn't get a BP nom, and IMO, 2 of the 4 BD-noms went to films I think have very low chances of winning BP ("Favourite" and "Vice").

    So if BP goes to a BD-nommed film, it'd have to be "Klansman" or "Roma", in my estimation.

    Certainly possible. This year really is the most wide-open Oscar crop I can remember in terms of BP!

    Oh, and back on thread topic: if Gaga doesn't win Best Actress, I'm gonna smash stuff!

  68. Tino

    Get your breakables ready. 😛

    :angry::angry::angry:

    I recognize the odds are on Close as the winner – and I'll actually be happy for her, even though I think "The Wife" wasn't much of a movie.

    But I loves me some Gaga!

  69. Best Actress was the biggest surprise/upset for the evening for me. I actually predicted Green Book for BP. But I thought sure that either Glenn Close or Lady Gaga were a lock for Actress in a Leading Role.

    Mark

  70. Mark Booth

    Best Actress was the biggest surprise/upset for the evening for me. I actually predicted Green Book for BP. But I thought sure that either Glenn Close or Lady Gaga were a lock for Actress in a Leading Role.

    Mark

    I never thought Gaga had more than
    a slight chance since A Star Is Born has been virtually shut out of all the prior awards shows.

    Tho I’m very happy Olivia Coleman won as she was my favorite performance in that category and much better I thought than Gaga and Close.

  71. &

    PMF

    Never mind the Queen aspects, Mark;
    go into "Bohemian Rhapsody" knowing that you'll be witness to an uncanny tour-de-force performance by Rami Malek;
    the hands down winner for this year's Best Actor.:cool:

    AMEN!

    PMF

    Understand
    the Gaga aspects entirely, but it is Lady Glenn's turn.
    Ms. Close, since her first nomination, has endured a 36 year waiting period for Oscar;
    and this win will not be a sympathy award, either; for this is acting at its best.:thumbs-up-smiley:


    Glenn Close should have won for Fatal Attraction.

  72. battlebeast

    Glenn Close should have won for Fatal Attraction.

    I Cher your sentiments.;)

    Also nominated for Best Actress (1987):
    Holly Hunter – Broadcast News
    Sally Kirkland – Anna
    Meryl Streep – Ironweed

  73. I watched Bohemian Rhapsody this afternoon. The UHD disc is a stunning transfer, sharp, detailed, and the sound is fantastic.

    The script for the film I found lacking: Mercury's attraction to men causing the break between him and Mary was very clumsily handled (they're happy and then they're not), and his constant pining for her got very tiresome while an obvious stream of (unseen) men in his bed led to his dire health consequences. Besides the continuity of the facts being off, I just felt the movie didn't have the courage of its convictions. It should have been more explicit with its flamboyant subject; playing it safe made it a wildly successful entertainment for a general audience but for me very undernourished as a dramatic representation of a life.

  74. Willem Defoe should of won for AT ETERNITIES GATE. MARY POPPINS RETURNS FOR costumes and visual effects. Yes on Glenn Close and ROMA. Next time instead of getting rid of the host they should get rid of the audience. They have no idea want they are voting for and I am sure they have not seen half of the nominees.

  75. battlebeast

    & AMEN!

    Understand
    the Gaga aspects entirely, but it is Lady Glenn's turn.
    Ms. Close, since her first nomination, has endured a 36 year waiting period for Oscar;
    and this win will not be a sympathy award, either; for this is acting at its best.:thumbs-up-smiley:

    You've got lucky neighbors.:)

    B-ROLL

    And Dangerous Liaisons, Albert Nobbs and …
    She's become the Susan Lucci of the OSCARS(TM)

    LOL! You don’t know how much I smiled at this! 🙂

  76. trajan007

    Next time instead of getting rid of the host they should get rid of the audience. They have no idea want they are voting for and I am sure they have not seen half of the nominees.

    That's an argument that has been around for years and theory that was openly acknowledged with Brokeback Mountain/Crash in the run up to that Oscar telecast.

  77. Jason_V

    That's an argument that has been around for years and theory that was openly acknowledged with Brokeback Mountain/Crash in the run up to that Oscar telecast.

    They used to hold screenings and they still may… but the voters get screeners from what I've heard …

  78. "Used to hold" screenings doesn't mean you're compelled to go. Or watch the screener. At least one voter openly said they didn't watch the movie back then.

    If you don't see all the nominees, you shouldn't be able to vote. But that's only my opinion. It's like me saying I had the best sushi in the whole world last night…and it was the first time I ever ate sushi. I have no reference point. If you're gonna be a voter, be a voter. Take it seriously.

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