A few words about…™ Alien — in 4k UHD Blu-ray

With so many current 4k releases, being nothing more than a new-skew up-rez, Alien is the real deal. 4 Stars

No Contest!

Fox’s 4k UHD/HDR of Ridley’s Scott’s, now 40 year-old sci-fi magnum opus, is magnificent in every detail.

Color, densities, grain structure, black levels, shadow detail, and last but not least, overall image resolution are so far a step above the old Blu-ray, that not only is there no reason to compare, but this could be one of those rara avis releases that causes video-cinephiles to pull the trigger on that new 4k set-up.

With so many current 4k releases, being nothing more than a new-skew up-rez, Alien is the real deal.

As an aside for those who collect interesting slipcovers, this one is a gorgeously produced affair. Get it in the correct reflective light, and you’ll think that Alien blood is seeping out.

No more need be said.

Image – 5

Audio – 5 (DTS-HD MA 5.1)

Pass / Fail – Pass

Added resolution via 4k – Yes

Upgrade from Blu-ray – You Betcha!

Very Highly Recommended

RAH

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Robert Harris

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93 Comments

  1. ArnoldLayne

    Damnit! I was resisting the UHD since the I have the Anthology set – and its Alien disc is pretty good! But it is priced right…

    The price is right indeed! I am not concerned about holding out for a UHD set. I can live with Alien 3 and Resurrection in HD , and who knows when Aliens will get the 4K treatment given James Cameron's history with home video releases…

    It sounds like Alien truly is the perfect organism on UHD!

  2. …and you guys in the US and Canada get it for under half the price we have to fork out for it in Europe!

    I first saw Alien when it was originally released, in a flea pit in Nairobi, Kenya. At the age of 12, I can't for the life of me remember what the film print looked like, as I1d covered my face with my hands for almost the entire film. I have the laserdisc box set and have bought the blu ray twice and I've always thought the picture looked good at the time. However, I remember being distinctly underwhelmed when I saw Alien on a huge cinema screen for the 25th Anniversary in 2004 – the film copy wasn't particularly sharp and the blacks were crushed. This new 4K disc should be a whole new experience.

  3. Excellent! Despite all the sobering and frequently dark news we're exposed to in these modern times, the fact that we can own 'Alien' in 4K HDR on a single 5-inch disk for $14.96, proves that all is not lost, and at least a few things are indeed right with the world.

  4. Watched mine earlier, as Robert said it looks magnificent this is clearly the current 4K UHD reference for 1979 & most likely the best catalog release for 2019! It just shows you what is possible when the studio wants to & someone is willing to pay for it the end result here is just fantastic & leaves you wanting more of the same high standard!!

    The level of detail in the amazing sets, physical ship models & costumes is staggeringly displayed in all its glory. When you see the interactive strobe set lighting FX its just mesmerizing & really places you into the movie. The actors as well all look great thanks to the superb atmospheric detail in their faces & memorable performances they all give. Jerry Goldsmiths incredible score never sounded better & Ridley Scott probably should have got an oscar for his understated but fluid & seamless direction of a talented army of technicians (some did indeed win the oscar but Ridley was snubbed as sci-fi was not something taken very seriously way back then).

    This is without a doubt one of the finest sci-fi movies ever made & still highly entertaining no matter how many times you have seen it. The new 4K UHD is so good I watched the entire movie in 1 sitting with my eyes glued to the screen for every single frame! When watching it I felt as though it was made yesterday due to how effective & stunning the presentation is. Its a little sad some of the actors & behind the camera talent are no longer with us but their great work will live on forever in this 4K UHD.

    If only we could get more 4K UHD catalog releases like this the format would continue to grow instead of trying to sideline physical discs studios should be trying to produce as many Alien quality transfers for disc as possible because most of the world is many years away from being able to stream this in 4K UHD with HDR!

  5. I'll be very interested to get my hands on this one – I noticed in some screen cap comparisons that the new 4K leans away from the "blues" of the bluray variant and more towards black. It also appears that the framing is different as well…shame there's no ATMOS track though.

  6. titch

    At the age of 12, I can't for the life of me remember what the film print looked like, as I1d covered my face with my hands for almost the entire film.

    I think Ridley would be placed with your review of his film. I was older so I looked more, but you and I had similar reactions.

    Paul_Warren

    Its a little sad some of the actors & behind the camera talent are no longer with us but their great work will live on forever in this 4K UHD.

    Who are the artists who have passed?

    I would like to express my gratitude for the trend of releasing outstanding discs of the Alien movies at great prices. I’m thinking of the Anthology and now 4K Aliens. If I recall correctly the anthology was well-priced out-of-the gate.

  7. Bryan^H

    No Atmos, Damn!

    This seems like it would be made for Atmos with height channels. I'm disappointed with that decision.

    I actually cancelled my Amazon order when I learned that the 4K was not Atmos. I don't have a 4K display and won't likely get one until my Panny Plasma cashes it in, but do own two 4K players and run a 5.1.4 set-up. If it had an Atmos mix, I was willing to throw down.

  8. Neil S. Bulk

    We don't know the state of the elements. Maybe it wasn't feasible. It happens.

    Neil

    FOX doesn’t seem to do any Atmos upgrades on most titles. I can’t think of any I know Die Hard 4K was also just 5.1

    Thrilled to finally get the 4.1 audio in DTS HD format.

    Previously it was only available as lossy Dolby Digital 4.1

  9. The Director's Cut also available on this disc is not all native 4K, and there are some noticeable variances in image quality that give things an at least slightly more heterogeneous look than on the Director's Cut on the 1080p Blu-ray. For that reason, some may actually prefer the Director's Cut at the lower resolution of the 1080p Blu-ray.

    From the review at br.com. Do you agree @Robert Harris

  10. Neil S. Bulk

    We don't know the state of the elements. Maybe it wasn't feasible. It happens.

    Neil

    I honestly wouldn't be that surprised if the printmasters (both 6 and 2-track) are all that survive for Alien. That was what happened with Close Encounters.

  11. Powell&Pressburger

    FOX doesn’t seem to do any Atmos upgrades on most titles. I can’t think of any I know Die Hard 4K was also just 5.1

    Thrilled to finally get the 4.1 audio in DTS HD format.

    Previously it was only available as lossy Dolby Digital 4.1

    Where does the 4.1 audio come from? Was it the 70mm engagement?

  12. DP 70

    I am sure the 4.1 is from the 70mm mix.
    The Laserdisc version used a 70mm 6 -track Sensurround mix in AC-3 which is only available in that format.

    Not Sensurround (that never ran on anything not made by Universal), just an earlier mix that had deeper bass. Accounts vary as to whether it was actually used in '79 or just some mix a guy at Fox pulled off a shelf by accident in 1995.

  13. I still remain completely confused why the price point has stayed this low for so long. It's a no brainer, pure and simple. Alien should be in the mailbox tonight when I get home and the night has been blocked off for the movie. Still keeping the Anthology BD set even if/when the other films hit 4k.

  14. ArrIves today. Those sets must look fantastic in 4K- I always remember that production design.

    As for Fox- and Cameron- where is the Abyss?!?! This would look amazing in 4K no less blu-ray.

  15. Johnny Angell

    …Who are the artists who have passed?

    Of the major cast and crew, quite a few…

    -John Hurt
    -Harry Dean Stanton
    -Bolaji Badejo (who played the alien)
    -screenwriter Dan O'Bannon
    -artist H.R. Giger
    -producer Gordon Carroll
    -cinematographer Derek Vanlint
    -composer Jerry Goldsmith
    -co-editor Peter Weatherly
    -production designer Michael Seymour
    -costume designer John Mollo
    -effects artist Carlo Rambaldi.

  16. Worth

    Of the major cast and crew, quite a few…

    -John Hurt
    -Harry Dean Stanton
    -Bolaji Badejo (who played the alien)
    -screenwriter Dan O'Bannon
    -artist H.R. Giger
    -producer Gordon Carroll
    -cinematographer Derek Vanlint
    -composer Jerry Goldsmith
    -co-editor Peter Weatherly
    -production designer Michael Seymour
    -costume designer John Mollo
    -effects artist Carlo Rambaldi.

    From personal experience, the years do take the toll.

    My copy arrives tonight and RH has me excited.

  17. Robert Harris

    As an aside for those who collect interesting slipcovers, this one is a gorgeously produced affair. Get it in the correct reflective light, and you'll think that Alien blood is seeping out.

    I just got my copy. If I tilt it right, I can get the drops to turn a faint pink. I don't think they're supposed to represent drops of blood but the natural juicy secretions of the Alien's smile. 😛

  18. Worth

    Of the major cast and crew, quite a few…

    -John Hurt
    -Harry Dean Stanton
    -Bolaji Badejo (who played the alien)
    -screenwriter Dan O'Bannon
    -artist H.R. Giger
    -producer Gordon Carroll
    -cinematographer Derek Vanlint
    -composer Jerry Goldsmith
    -co-editor Peter Weatherly
    -production designer Michael Seymour
    -costume designer John Mollo
    -effects artist Carlo Rambaldi.

    As of today:

    -Terry Rawlings (RIP)

  19. Brian L

    I actually cancelled my Amazon order when I learned that the 4K was not Atmos. I don't have a 4K display and won't likely get one until my Panny Plasma cashes it in, but do own two 4K players and run a 5.1.4 set-up. If it had an Atmos mix, I was willing to throw down.

    Not having a 4K tv hasn’t stopped me from buying and WATCHING 4K discs on my 6 year old non 4K tv.

    These 4K discs still look fantastic on my tv.

  20. A tall, dark stranger with a drooling problem swipes right on two of seven available singles before breaking his heart over the last one, who drags him real good.

    I should be sick of this movie, but somehow I never am. And the 4K is a revelation.

    I thought HDR wouldn’t work on old movies, though. Obviously it does. Or is that only for certain old movies, with negatives on the brink? Like The Godfather?

  21. Watched Alien on 4K UHD Blu-ray today and it looks fantastic! I am impressed with the transfer as the video has good color saturation and excellent black levels giving the many low light scenes a good amount of detail. IMHO 20th Century Fox did a very good job on the 4K transfer which actually is better than the transfer done for the standard blu-ray and the Alien Quadrilogy set on blu-ray! I hope Fox puts out Aliens on 4K UHD Blu-ray soon!

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  22. Ross Gowland

    How does the Super-8 compare to the Blu-ray version?

    You can never compete on the nuts-and-bolts resolution of BD or UHD, but the amazing thing with small or large format film – if you're using good lenses – is what I call the infinite black level (no light = absolute black) and the totally organic look of the image. You seem to get rewarded by an entirely analog workflow from capture on film to transfer on film to presentation on film.

  23. Worth

    That's amazing. I never knew that existed. Would have loved to have had that as a kid. I didn't even know anyone made scope lenses for super-8.

    Yes, there were quite a few options for film makers and collectors. Mine is the Kowa 8Z 2x. Aspect ratio is actually 2.66:1 on Super 8 and 16mm. Plus, most higher-end projectors had 2-track stereo audio by late 70s. (Sorry for drifting off topic!)View attachment 57794

  24. Got through the first 30 mins last night, just had my new Panasonic 4K OLED calibrated by Mike Osadciw last week…great timing as this disc is AMAZING. Wow, well done Fox, can't wait to watch the rest. The fine detail is breathtaking and the contrast so good, love the inky deep black levels.

  25. Jonathan Perregaux

    I thought HDR wouldn’t work on old movies, though. Obviously it does. Or is that only for certain old movies, with negatives on the brink? Like The Godfather?

    Its on a film by film basis. How many times am I going to have to say that 4k and HDR is not a magic button and its benefit is controlled entirely by the quality of the elements that you put into it? Obviously this was one of the cases where it benefited.

  26. Lord Dalek

    Its on a film by film basis. How many times am I going to have to say that 4k and HDR is not a magic button and its benefit is controlled entirely by the quality of the elements that you put into it? Obviously this was one of the cases where it benefited.

    I just don't understand responses like this. In all likelihood people in this forum don't hang on your every word, and if the question bothered you so much why did you even reply?

  27. Robert Harris

    No Contest!

    Fox's 4k UHD/HDR of Ridley's Scott's, now 40 year-old sci-fi magnum opus, is magnificent in every detail.

    Color, densities, grain structure, black levels, shadow detail, and last but not least, overall image resolution are so far a step above the old Blu-ray, that not only is there no reason to compare, but this could be one of those rara avis releases that causes video-cinephiles to pull the trigger on that new 4k set-up.

    With so many current 4k releases, being nothing more than a new-skew up-rez, Alien is the real deal.

    As an aside for those who collect interesting slipcovers, this one is a gorgeously produced affair. Get it in the correct reflective light, and you'll think that Alien blood is seeping out.

    No more need be said.

    Image – 5

    Audio – 5 (DTS-HD MA 5.1)

    Pass / Fail – Pass

    Added resolution via 4k – Yes

    Upgrade from Blu-ray – You Betcha!

    Very Highly Recommended

    RAH
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    Well Amazon just got more of my money.
    This will be fun to see in 4K.

  28. Robert, you’re under arrest for using a promotional still of the Xenomorph from 2004’s ‘ALIEN VS. PREDATOR’ to represent the 1979 film ‘ALIEN’. They look nothing alike.

  29. Ted Van Duyn

    Robert, you're under arrest for using a promotional still of the Xenomorph from 2004's 'ALIEN VS. PREDATOR' to represent the 1979 film 'ALIEN'. They look nothing alike.

    The posting of that picture has nothing to do with RAH. Unfortunately, we're having issues posting the correct photos to some reviews which is very frustrating for me and our members.

  30. Ted Van Duyn

    Robert, you're under arrest for using a promotional still of the Xenomorph from 2004's 'ALIEN VS. PREDATOR' to represent the 1979 film 'ALIEN'. They look nothing alike.

    What picture?

  31. Was at movie night at Fox and got into a conversation with two guys and the topic drifted into the Alien UHD disc. They asked me if I had seen it and what I thought. I told them I thought it was an amazing transfer and they seemed relieved to hear positive feedback. Sometimes there can be so much negative feedback online.

  32. As has happened before, I was going to just spot check the 4K on my 65’ Sony XBR (my projector setup is only 1080P) but with a very quality release (except lack of Atmos is disappointing) of a movie I love I ended up watching the entire movie on from the discovery of the Space Jockey – Simply gorgeous!

    At the current price it’s a no brained and an essential part of any “respectful” library 😉

    Regards

  33. Just finished watching the Director’s cut. This is what 4K should be about. It’s never looked better outside of the theater. When Kane is first examining the face hugger I thought I saw a problem with color shift. I then realized that this was lights on the console changing colors. I don’t remember noticing that before. There’s a new depth looking down corridors.

    I did not notice a degradation of image quality in the additional scenes.

  34. Johnny Angell

    Just finished watching the Director’s cut. This is what 4K should be about. It’s never looked better outside of the theater. When Kane is first examining the face hugger I thought I saw a problem with color shift. I then realized that this was lights on the console changing colors. I don’t remember noticing that before. There’s a new depth looking down corridors.

    I did not notice a degradation of image quality in the additional scenes.

    I noticed that exact thing as well, but a little earlier as well, when Ash was at the window when Dallas, Kane and Lambert were off exploring, his face got on and off bathed in reddish light due to a rotating light somwhere off camera. So much new detail. One cool thing about these 4K discs is that is makes you look for more detail that may not necessarily have to do with the resolution. For example one new detail I caught was right after Kane is killed and they’re describing the plan to catch the alien, Ash describes the tracker he built. Ripley asks what tiggers the device to repsond and I just now noticed the subtle grimace he gives at being annoyed by Ripley’s question.

    I’m not there yet, but I suppose another test is how well I can read the self destruct instructions.

  35. I have always loved this movie.
    It made a long lasting impression on a 13 year old who went to the movies to see this in 1979.

    But there has always been one thing that drives me nuts about the movie.

    Near the beginning after the facephugger is on Kane when Dallas and Ash are examining him they are wearing plastic breathing devices that aren’t attached to anything. They even have the little plastic thing that connects to a hose still on there.

    I can’t get passed it. Drives me nuts.

  36. TonyD

    I have always loved this movie.
    It made a long lasting impression on a 13 year old who went to the movies to see this in 1979.

    But there has always been one thing that drives me nuts about the movie.

    Near the beginning after the facephugger is on Kane when Dallas and Ash are examining him they are wearing plastic breathing devices that aren’t attached to anything. They even have the little plastic thing that connects to a hose still on there.

    I can’t get passed it. Drives me nuts.

    What about where Ash tells Dallas he can take his mask off just because Kane is in the bio scan, like that would make whatever kind of difference.

  37. Martin Dew

    Yes, there were quite a few options for film makers and collectors. Mine is the Kowa 8Z 2x. Aspect ratio is actually 2.66:1 on Super 8 and 16mm. Plus, most higher-end projectors had 2-track stereo audio by late 70s.

    Very, very cool! I especially appreciate this kind of history being a scope projection owner (JVC RS440 paired with Stewart ST100).

    This UHD BD is absolutely stunning.

  38. TonyD

    So there’s a 5.1 and a 4.1 track on this but the disc menu doesn’t say what the difference is. What is the difference besides the obvious?

    If it's anything like the Anthology blu, its EQ choices. The 5.1 was louder with deeper bass on that disc.

  39. WillG

    I’m not there yet, but I suppose another test is how well I can read the self destruct instructions.

    Very clearly, on this superb 4K UHD disc! It was fantastic revisiting it again last night and enjoying the picture detail like never before. Actually, on the former blu-ray disc, the emergency destruction instructions are also easy to read. However, the picture was graded slightly differently, so that it was even more obvious that the "DANGER" text was hand-coloured in with a marker pen, and was not printed! In fact, the only thing I couldn't read were the smaller stickers at the top, medial to the CAUTION BEWARE STATIC DAMAGE stickers – they are slightly less lit, compared to the rest of the instructions, so that is a contributing factor.

    This time I did the full OCD and I paused the film both when Ripley initiated the self-destruct mechanism, and when she tried to abort it, and I noticed for the first time, after all the times I've watched Alien, that Ripley is following the instructions in FRENCH on the right hand side, when she tries to abort the self-destruct! And then I noticed that the French instructions were not properly translated! I'm sure plenty of other obsessives have noticed this before – was the poorly translated French a factor in Ripley failing to abort the self-destruct? Just kidding, but still!

    Punch NUCLEAR BOLT CODE No 1 Verify BOLT CLAMP release

    Perform INSERTION of BOLT No 1 to HOLD No 1 Remove NUCLEAR HEAD

    Activate PUSH BUTTON SWITCH Replace NUCLEAR HEAD Verify SECURED

    Verify DETONATION ACTIVATED Repeat for HOLDS 2, 3 & 4

    Poussez le NUCLEAR BOLT CODE No 1 Vérifier CRAMPON de L’ACHEMENT

    Exécutez INSERTION/BOULON No 1 a la cale No 1

    Vérifier SÉCURITÉ du SOMMET NUCLEAR

    Vérifier SÉCURITÉ du SOMMET NUCLEAR Vérifier la DETONATION ACTIVE

  40. TonyD

    I have always loved this movie.
    It made a long lasting impression on a 13 year old who went to the movies to see this in 1979.

    But there has always been one thing that drives me nuts about the movie.

    Near the beginning after the facephugger is on Kane when Dallas and Ash are examining him they are wearing plastic breathing devices that aren’t attached to anything. They even have the little plastic thing that connects to a hose still on there.

    I can’t get passed it. Drives me nuts.

    There are other disconnects in the film. Ripley sends Parker and Lambert to gather some tanks which are supposedly vital to them being able to leave in the shuttle, yet after they are both killed Ripley is somehow able to leave without gathering any tanks. Apparently it was just a plot device to send off a couple of other crew members to be slaughtered.

    I still love the film after all these years, despite the flaws (saw it for the first time while in high school during its initial theatrical run). We watched the theatrical cut on UHD, and the level of detail was amazing.

  41. titch

    …This time I did the full OCD and I paused the film both when Ripley initiated the self-destruct mechanism, and when she tried to abort it, and I noticed for the first time, after all the times I've watched Alien, that Ripley is following the instructions in FRENCH on the right hand side, when she tries to abort the self-destruct! And then I noticed that the French instructions were not properly translated! I'm sure plenty of other obsessives have noticed this before – was the poorly translated French a factor in Ripley failing to abort the self-destruct? Just kidding, but still!

    Maybe the ship was Canadian.

  42. Scott Merryfield

    There are other disconnects in the film. Ripley sends Parker and Lambert to gather some tanks which are supposedly vital to them being able to leave in the shuttle, yet after they are both killed Ripley is somehow able to leave without gathering any tanks. Apparently it was just a plot device to send off a couple of other crew members to be slaughtered.

    I still love the film after all these years, despite the flaws (saw it for the first time while in high school during its initial theatrical run). We watched the theatrical cut on UHD, and the level of detail was amazing.

    I don't know that it's a flaw. Those tanks were necessary for all of them to be able to escape and survive. The bad thing is that the folks who went to get the tanks died. The good thing is that, well, two less people to take into account when calculating fuel and oxygen needs. When Ripley finally left in the shuttle, it was because she didn't have a choice. She didn't have what she needed, but the odds weren't exactly in her favor if she had decided to stay aboard the Nostromo. She ended up taking a chance and putting herself into hypersleep to conserve resources while she waited to see if anyone would find her. They eventually did, of course, though it was a few years later than she had hoped. 😉

  43. titch

    Very clearly, on this superb 4K UHD disc! It was fantastic revisiting it again last night and enjoying the picture detail like never before. Actually, on the former blu-ray disc, the emergency destruction instructions are also easy to read. However, the picture was graded slightly differently, so that it was even more obvious that the "DANGER" text was hand-coloured in with a marker pen, and was not printed! In fact, the only thing I couldn't read were the smaller stickers at the top, medial to the CAUTION BEWARE STATIC DAMAGE stickers – they are slightly less lit, compared to the rest of the instructions, so that is a contributing factor.

    This time I did the full OCD and I paused the film both when Ripley initiated the self-destruct mechanism, and when she tried to abort it, and I noticed for the first time, after all the times I've watched Alien, that Ripley is following the instructions in FRENCH on the right hand side, when she tries to abort the self-destruct! And then I noticed that the French instructions were not properly translated! I'm sure plenty of other obsessives have noticed this before – was the poorly translated French a factor in Ripley failing to abort the self-destruct? Just kidding, but still!

    Punch NUCLEAR BOLT CODE No 1 Verify BOLT CLAMP release

    Perform INSERTION of BOLT No 1 to HOLD No 1 Remove NUCLEAR HEAD

    Activate PUSH BUTTON SWITCH Replace NUCLEAR HEAD Verify SECURED

    Verify DETONATION ACTIVATED Repeat for HOLDS 2, 3 & 4

    Poussez le NUCLEAR BOLT CODE No 1 Vérifier CRAMPON de L’ACHEMENT

    Exécutez INSERTION/BOULON No 1 a la cale No 1

    Vérifier SÉCURITÉ du SOMMET NUCLEAR

    Vérifier SÉCURITÉ du SOMMET NUCLEAR Vérifier la DETONATION ACTIVE

    I noticed this in the theater during my first ever viewing while looking thru my fingers. 😉

    Scott Merryfield

    There are other disconnects in the film. Ripley sends Parker and Lambert to gather some tanks which are supposedly vital to them being able to leave in the shuttle, yet after they are both killed Ripley is somehow able to leave without gathering any tanks. Apparently it was just a plot device to send off a couple of other crew members to be slaughtered.

    I still love the film after all these years, despite the flaws (saw it for the first time while in high school during its initial theatrical run). We watched the theatrical cut on UHD, and the level of detail was amazing.

    Weren’t Parker and Lambert at the entrance to the Shuttle? I thought they had already unloaded some of the tanks.

  44. Scott Merryfield

    There are other disconnects in the film. Ripley sends Parker and Lambert to gather some tanks which are supposedly vital to them being able to leave in the shuttle, yet after they are both killed Ripley is somehow able to leave without gathering any tanks. Apparently it was just a plot device to send off a couple of other crew members to be slaughtered.

    I still love the film after all these years, despite the flaws (saw it for the first time while in high school during its initial theatrical run). We watched the theatrical cut on UHD, and the level of detail was amazing.

    Yeah I always noticed that too. Even if you excuse the fact that it ended up just being one person in the shuttle instead of three, we found out later that the meager life support ended up lasting 57 years.

    I finally screened Alien to my 8 year old son (don't judge, with the exception of one scene which he closed his eyes for, Alien is less viscerally violent than "Jaws" which he's also seen several times). When Dallas was in the vents he asked "how can the alien fit when he can barely fit?" And the after that scene asked "where does the alien take them" (I showed him the "answer" to that question after the theatrical cut finished). Smart kid, I didn't think of those questions when I watched the movie at that age, myself.

    He's now eager to see "Aliens" and on that subject there are a few holes there too

    It's far fetched that Ripley would ever trust WY enough to go back
    Why would WY even want her on the mission
    Why no standby crew remaining on the Sulaco?

  45. WillG

    I finally screened Alien to my 8 year old son (don't judge, with the exception of one scene which he closed his eyes for…

    It had to be when the Alien pops out at Dallas, right?

  46. I was listening to the Ridley Scott 1999 commentary on the theatrical version and I noticed that he said right at the beginning, at the 3.30 minute mark, that he was going to explain later about an idea he had about the bird dipping into the water, just before the Nostromo blew up. But he never did! I always liked the bird dipping into the water, as I was given one as a present when I was hospitalised with serious internal bleeding at the age of five. Started to wonder a few years later, when I first saw the film, if the haemorrhage was caused by an alien!

  47. Fantastic visual presentation, The lack of Atmos is just criminal! This film would benefit 100% from an Atmos track. So many atmospheric scenes screaming for height channels, and this scene with Brett looking for the cat with the rain, chains and well you get the idea

    I have been saving for an Atmos setup for well over a year now after experiencing how amazing it is. And I can say I feel extremely cheated on this. Of the many movies I own in 4K, this is the one I would have liked it on the most.

  48. After enjoying the 4K Alien so much, I decided to just cancel everything important yesterday and do the whole Alien marathon (Alien vs. Predator excepted) for the first time. It's a great universe to be pulled into!

    No doubt in my mind that the first is easily the best, perfectly directed, fantastic sets, superb acting, great score, cinematography etc. etc. I used to enjoy Aliens the most, but now, compared to the original, Aliens has probably dated the worst – when compared with all the other entries, it sticks out as the only one not filmed in 2.40:1 aspect ratio. But still so edge-of-your-seat exciting for the last hour. And then diminishing returns more or less for the next eight hours, or so. But if you are familiar with all the films, you already know all the flaws the sequels have.

    Made me SO want newly scanned, 4K UHD discs of Aliens, The Abyss and True Lies…..

  49. Bryan^H

    Fantastic visual presentation, The lack of Atmos is just criminal!

    I have to admit I don't really get why film fanatics clamor for revisionist presentations of any sort.

    The movie wasn't mixed with Atmos in mind since it didn't exist in 1979. Movies should come out with presentations as close to theatrical as possible.

    Seems like people go nuts if the visual side gets changed but are eager for alterations to audio, and that confuses me…

  50. Bryan^H

    Fantastic visual presentation, The lack of Atmos is just criminal! This film would benefit 100% from an Atmos track. So many atmospheric scenes screaming for height channels, and this scene with Brett looking for the cat with the rain, chains and well you get the idea

    I have been saving for an Atmos setup for well over a year now after experiencing how amazing it is. And I can say I feel extremely cheated on this. Of the many movies I own in 4K, this is the one I would have liked it on the most.

    A couple of things about that scene have always bugged me, just a little. When Brett raises his face to drink in the dripping water, on a ship like the Nostromo, wouldn’t it be dirty? I know it was clean water the dripped on the actor, but the character would have gotten dirty water. Second, in a later scene, Parker describes the Alien as big, but even in this uncut scene Ripley and Parker do not see the creature. He’s gone.

    I thought the directors cut was the complete scene, but this clip contains even more than that cut.

  51. Johnny Angell

    A couple of things about that scene have always bugged me, just a little. When Brett raises his face to drink in the dripping water, on a ship like the Nostromo, wouldn’t it be dirty? I know it was clean water the dripped on the actor, but the character would have gotten dirty water. Second, in a later scene, Parker describes the Alien as big, but even in this uncut scene Ripley and Parker do not see the creature. He’s gone.

    I thought the directors cut was the complete scene, but this clip contains even more than that cut.

    Brett doesn’t seem like the type of person that would care all that much. As for Parker, he says “whatever it was, it was big”. Not an illogical conclusion.

  52. Colin Jacobson

    Seems like people go nuts if the visual side gets changed but are eager for alterations to audio, and that confuses me…

    I get that, but HDR didn't exist in 1979 either. So if they are going to do one and not the other it feels like the release is lacking to me. I want the best possible technical advance in 4K BD. It is the reason I bought into it.

  53. Bryan^H

    I get that, but HDR didn't exist in 1979 either. So if they are going to do one and not the other it feels like the release is lacking to me. I want the best possible technical advance in 4K BD. It is the reason I bought into it.

    Well, I don't advocate HDR when it tampers with the original colors either. I like HDR when it's used to display the original hues as accurately as possible.

    I don't mind audio remixes as an option as long as I can get the original – which is the case with "Alien".

    I just remain perplexed by the idea that "the best possible technical advance" overrides the original material. I got 4K UHD to see the movies presented as accurately as possible, not to use technology where it wasn't there in the first place.

    Sorry if this sounds sanctimonious, but I just don't get it. Weren't the people who wanted pan and scan images just looking to take the best advantage of their TVs, too?

  54. Bryan^H

    Fantastic visual presentation, The lack of Atmos is just criminal! This film would benefit 100% from an Atmos track. So many atmospheric scenes screaming for height channels, and this scene with Brett looking for the cat with the rain, chains and well you get the idea

    I have been saving for an Atmos setup for well over a year now after experiencing how amazing it is. And I can say I feel extremely cheated on this. Of the many movies I own in 4K, this is the one I would have liked it on the most.

    Colin Jacobson

    Well, I don't advocate HDR when it tampers with the original colors either. I like HDR when it's used to display the original hues as accurately as possible.

    I don't mind audio remixes as an option as long as I can get the original – which is the case with "Alien".

    I just remain perplexed by the idea that "the best possible technical advance" overrides the original material. I got 4K UHD to see the movies presented as accurately as possible, not to use technology where it wasn't there in the first place.

    Sorry if this sounds sanctimonious, but I just don't get it. Weren't the people who wanted pan and scan images just looking to take the best advantage of their TVs, too?

    Well, I think you're both right! I don't mind audio being remixed at all, and will often choose a revised track when screening films for on-aficionado audiences. All I ask is for the original to always be be included.

    What does perplex me is those who are ok with colour regrading, CGI "fixes", audio and AR alterations, etc, but get their knickers in a twist over colorization. Especially as the original B&W is always included anyway.

  55. Colin Jacobson

    Well, I don't advocate HDR when it tampers with the original colors either. I like HDR when it's used to display the original hues as accurately as possible.

    I don't mind audio remixes as an option as long as I can get the original – which is the case with "Alien".

    I just remain perplexed by the idea that "the best possible technical advance" overrides the original material. I got 4K UHD to see the movies presented as accurately as possible, not to use technology where it wasn't there in the first place.

    Sorry if this sounds sanctimonious, but I just don't get it. Weren't the people who wanted pan and scan images just looking to take the best advantage of their TVs, too?

    While I agree with your overall sentiment, watching anything on video, in any format, is always going to be at best an approximation of the original. If you went to see Alien on opening night in 1979, it wouldn't have looked anything like the 4K disc. Even with perfect projection, it would have been significantly grainier, the resolution would have been sub-2K (likely sub 1080p), and the image wouldn't have been rock-steady, the way it can only be with digital.

  56. Brent Reid

    Well, I think you're both right! I don't mind audio being remixed at all, and will often choose a revised track when screening films for on-aficionado audiences. All I ask is for the original to always be be included.

    What does perplex me is those who are ok with colour regrading, CGI "fixes", audio and AR alterations, etc, but get their knickers in a twist over colorization. Especially as the original B&W is always included anyway.

    This assumes that all the assets even exist for a remix in the first place. That does not appear to be the case as far as Alien goes (the raw first gen Foley and sfx masters are apparently long gone).

  57. I agree it looks amazing in 4k. My memories of it have always been as a dark and dingy film but the HDR on this (I assume) really makes it shine. In fact, for a film I thought I knew quite well, it felt different, in the same way that Blade Runner felt 'new' on 4K too.

  58. Happy 40th Anniversary to one of the most terrifying films ever made.

    ALIEN

    I saw this 40 years ago today when I was 16. I’ll never forget the great mood it evoked then and still today with its great music, visual effects, story and performances.

    I’m going to spin this disc tonight in honor of its anniversary.

  59. Tino

    Happy 40th Anniversary to one of the most terrifying films ever made.

    ALIEN

    I saw this 40 years ago today when I was 16. I’ll never forget the great mood it evoked then and still today with its great music, visual effects, story and performances.

    I’m going to spin this disc tonight in honor of its anniversary.

    And now that you're finally hooked up and settled with the Panny 820, it's going to be one enviable night.:cool:
    Happy Anniversary to vALIENtino.:D

  60. PMF

    And now that you're finally hooked up and settled with the Panny 820, it's going to be one enviable night.:cool:
    Happy Anniversary to vALIENtino.:D

    Ha. Good one Philip!:emoji_relaxed::emoji_thumbsup:

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