20000 Leagues Under The Sea and In Search of the Castaways — DMC Exclusives Coming Soon

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Disney Movie Club – 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea (1954) Blu-ray

Rather than put this in the exclusive thread I think this deserves it’s own thread. DMR Coming soon section now showing 2 titles that surely nobody can complain too much about — though I know better.

Release Date is TBA, but most likely possible date 6/18 given that it’s slotted ahead of Cinderella Signature release

Details are non existent, but I wouldn’t expect a comprehensive release with a lot of extras (or any).

Let the complaints begin

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Disney Movie Club – In Search of the Castaways (1962) Blu-ray

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  1. Yay!

    There are obviously still titles they haven't released yet that I want — but no complaints from me on this at all. The fact that they've finally (finally) got around to doing these two means they're still committed to releasing things they h aven't released yet, and Disney+ doesn't appear to be stopping this line. That's fantastic.

  2. Sweet! Walt era classics finally! I'll happily add both to my collection! "In Search of the Castaways" is particularly nice to see since I can finally retire my full-screen DVD. Now let's top this in the next cycle with "The Happiest Millionaire"!

  3. David Weicker

    Great news

    Question for David Norman. Are Exclusives eligible for VIP discounts in their initial offering?

    As in eligible for B1 G40-50-60% offers? Yes — at least I can't think of one that was not eligible immediately

    Enrollment eligibility — almost all the regular exclusives aren't eligible for the new enrollment package for the 1st 60 days. They do qualify as commitment/fulfillment items at full priced or can be eligible for the %off offers immediately

  4. I'll bet there is an extra for 20,000. I would expect (although I'm often wrong) Operation Undersea -the making of or as was called when it aired on WW Disney – the long long trailer.

  5. David Norman

    As in eligible for B1 G40-50-60% offers? Yes — at least I can't think of one that was never eligible

    Enrollment eligibility — almost all the regular exclusives aren't eligible for the new enrollment package for the 1st 60 days. They do qualify as commitment/fulfillment items at full priced or can be eligible for the %off offers immediately

    Hi David, PM sent.

  6. Johnny Angell

    Do you have to subscribe to the Disney Movie Club to get this? I don’t like clubs like that.

    Pretty much, Ebay scalper which I suspect this item will be high dollar, or grab a buddy who already is a member.
    The problem with too many friends is that DMC doesn't approve or allow people to buy 15 of a title and pretty much limit a member to 3 or 4 total (and cumulatively over time even over multiple accts)

    I understand people have had issues with Negative Response Clubs, but DMC has a rather high Satisfaction rate and makes it as customer friendly as possible. You just have to do your homework ahead of time to grab the optimum promotional codes and understand what your requirements are. I know a lot of people who grab 8 or 9 items in 2weeks for $60-80, then cancel — in/out/done. Then rejoin a month/6 months/year later and do the same. There is no minimum time you have to stay a member

    Unfortunately Ron is one of the few who had issues even when doing what he was supposed to do. 95% of issues I've heard about over the last 4-5-6 years are from people who think and can order 5 for $1, refuse to buy their contracted 2-3 items, refuse to decline the Feature Titles, and ignore everything else — then get ticked off when Disney gets mean.

  7. David Norman

    Disney Movie Club – 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea (1954) Blu-ray

    Rather than put this in the exclusive thread I think this deserves it's own thread. DMR Coming soon section now showing 2 titles that surely nobody can complain too much about — though I know better.

    Release Date is TBA, but most likely possible date 6/18 given that it's slotted ahead of Cinderella Signature release

    Details are non existent, but I wouldn't expect a comprehensive release with a lot of extras (or any).

    Let the complaints begin

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    Disney Movie Club – In Search of the Castaways (1962) Blu-ray

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    YESSSSSSS :dance::drum::banana::dancing-banana-04::razz:opcorn::welcome::cheers:
    I'm hoping it's a new scan of 20,000 Leagues IMdb says it was released in 4-track stereo (I'm pretty sure that's an oxymoron ;)) but I remember it having directional audio when I saw it on a re-release in my Yoot … I let me tell you it was a whale of a tale!

    One of my favorite childhood LPs
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    I couldn't wait to see the film :)!

  8. Was 95° here yesterday, quietly looks out the window to see if hell has frozen over. About time and yes this is a reason to finally join that club. Also agree with everybody else going to put my DVD in the same case just because it'll probably be Bare Bones I don't care. This is where Uncle Walt's idea of a family movie shined.

  9. B-ROLL

    I'm hoping it's a new scan of 20,000 Leagues…

    It will be the same immaculate restoration that has been on iTunes but at a substantially higher bitrate. You have nothing to worry about. The sound is a 5.1 mix based on the original 4.0 magnetic tracks.

  10. B-ROLL

    YESSSSSSS :dance::drum::banana::dancing-banana-04::razz:opcorn::welcome::cheers:
    I'm hoping it's a new scan of 20,000 Leagues IMdb says it was released in 4-track stereo (I'm pretty sure that's an oxymoron ;)) but I remember it having directional audio when I saw it on a re-release in my Yoot … I let me tell you it was a whale of a tale!

    One of my favorite childhood LPs
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    I couldn't wait to see the film :)!

    I loved that record, too.

  11. Awesome! Simply awesome! Hopefully they'll both be huge sellers for Disney which would encourage them to get some other wanted stuff out like The Moonspinners, Light In The Forest, Black Hole, Happiest Millionaire (Roadshow cut, of course) and Third Man On The Mountain.

  12. This is, of course, the long-awaited news we had been waiting for.

    I figured I was only going to be able to watch 20,000 Leagues on Disney+

    Looks like I am going to have to rejoin the DMC when it is available as an introductory title.

  13. Ronald Epstein

    Looks like I am going to have to rejoin the DMC when it is available as an introductory title.

    Given recent patterns, I would expect it to an enrollment pick around mid to end of August assuming the 6/18 release day holds — 8 to 9 weeks is common though 13 wks (90Days) is possible. Mary Poppins Returns became eligible today — 9 weeks.

  14. David, I’m sure you’ve covered this before so apologies in advance for the repeated question. I’m thinking of canceling my account so I can enroll in one of those “free shipping for life” plans. I’m just waiting for DMC to receive and process a return/refund before making the call. Once I cancel, how long do I have to wait to sign up again? And it’s easier to get a better selection of titles by enrolling over the phone these days?

  15. Josh many people including myself have cancelled and resigned the same day.

    I don’t know if we have one here but there’s a substantial topic over at Blu-ray.com with all the info you could imagine.

  16. John Sparks

    Disney showed a new print strike or restoration years ago when the El Capitan in Hollywood had just opened. Took my son to see it, what an enjoyment.

    That had to be back in 1991 when it reopened, because it first opened back in 1926, 28 years before the movie came out.

  17. Actually I got the date wrong on the reopening of the theater. I saw the film in 2003, which was about 8 years after it reopened.

    As a LAFD fire inspector, I had the privilege to walk thru the whole theater including the entire building. Wow, they dropped a bundle restoring it.

  18. dana martin

    Also agree with everybody else going to put my DVD in the same case just because it'll probably be Bare Bones I don't care. This is where Uncle Walt's idea of a family movie shined.

    Kinda like I did with my earlier DVDs of The Parent Trap (1961 & 1998) and Freaky Friday (2003). Purchased new 2 disc Blu-ray cases (clear versions) and moved all discs and artwork into those cases.

  19. John Sparks

    Actually I got the date wrong on the reopening of the theater. I saw the film in 2003, which was about 8 years after it reopened.

    As a LAFD fire inspector, I had the privilege to walk thru the whole theater including the entire building. Wow, they dropped a bundle restoring it.

    1991-2003 is 12 not 8.

  20. Josh Steinberg

    David, I’m sure you’ve covered this before so apologies in advance for the repeated question. I’m thinking of canceling my account so I can enroll in one of those “free shipping for life” plans. I’m just waiting for DMC to receive and process a return/refund before making the call. Once I cancel, how long do I have to wait to sign up again? And it’s easier to get a better selection of titles by enrolling over the phone these days?

    The phone enrollment isn't much help anymore other than for the bonus items if they aren't on the Selected Short list. If you're not enrolled online since they updated the web 18 months or so ago, it's very different than it used to be. They really have clamped down on those YMMV choices some people used to get. I find it easier to use the web site to enroll though it, enter all the email information/billing/shipping upfront and then call/chat to add or change the bonus items if I don't like their choices.

    If the only reason you want to cancel/re-enroll is to get Free Shipping and you don't really have a pile of discs you need, a few people are reporting that when they call to cancel mentioning re-enroll to get the Free Shipping Code that the CSR are offering some an option just to add Free Shipping to your current account. OTOH, if you have 6-9 items you need there is no cheaper way to get them than by a new cycle (it's 20-30% cheaper than even the best B1 G60% deal)

    Making a short story long"
    How fast you can re-enroll is a bit variable and depends on how you cancel and if you want to use the same email address.
    You can cancel by email, phone, or chat. Email adds quite a few days to the delay so I strongly suggest doing it by chat or phone. By phone or chat the reps seem to check your acct for outstanding issues and nothing is pending which can expedite purging your current account. I actually prefer chat so I can save the transcript and I specifically ask "I'm going to re-enroll to take advantage of a Promo Code, how quickly can I do a new enrollment?" Typically — a variation of "A few days if you use the same email address or almost immediately if you want to use a different email address." I also think they will push the cancel if you tell them you wish to re-enroll soon.

    I strongly prefer using a new email address since it seems to avoid 95% of the problems with accts not clearing quickly or fully, but you can use everything identically if you want.
    1) Once you cancel you should get an confirmation email in a couple hrs or couple days once you acct is fully cleared.
    2) Fairly quickly after you cancel (as soon as you hang up sometimes) — if you try to sign it you'll get a message "this email/password combination is disabled" This is an interim designation and not the final stage so DON"T sign up with the same email at this stage though you probably would be safe using a new email
    3) in 24 hrs to 4 business days you should eventually get a message "The combination of your email address and password does not exist. Please try again." This is the final stage and you should be clear to sign up with this email address now.

  21. Josh Steinberg

    Aww, but then I’d have to join that place 😉
    Thanks Tony! 🙂

    Nah — the only 2 sub-forums you have to register to read — the Trade Forum which makes sense and Dead Deals section for some reason. Post 1 and 2 are the most important but almost every conceivable question and situation has been covered inside the thead and often most of them in the last 2-3 pages since even with the FAQ so many questions are repeated multiple time

    https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=221740

  22. David Norman

    If the only reason you want to cancel/re-enroll is to get Free Shipping and you don't really have a pile of discs you need, a few people are reporting that when they call to cancel mentioning re-enroll to get the Free Shipping Code that the CSR are offering some an option just to add Free Shipping to your current account.

    That’s good to know! There’s stuff I can get to make an enrollment package but I’d also be happy to keep my current membership if they’d let me add that. I’ll give it a try.

  23. Josh Steinberg

    That’s good to know! There’s stuff I can get to make an enrollment package but I’d also be happy to keep my current membership if they’d let me add that. I’ll give it a try.

    Definitely a YMMV depending on the rep you get, but if they don't offer you can just ask "Is it possible"

    Even stranger a couple Canadians have reported being offered a similar option and FS in Canada is a far more rare part of their
    monthly offers and substantially more expensive. They don't even have a Free Shipping promo offer to leverage. There is actually a bigger reason for them to enroll if they are on an older plan since there is a newer promo code that attaches B1G50% and G60% offers in place of their normal G40% and G50% codes. The Canadian monthly offers have almost always been 10% less than the US offers. If they can upgrade to the higher % discounts and then attach the FS, their deal becomes substantially better

  24. A little late to this party, but let me also say how thrilled I am to see these two Walt-era classics get their due on Blu-ray! This is fantastic news indeed and gives me hope that we'll still see these types of releases even after Disney+ debuts. Thank you Disney for finally making these two classic films available to purchase!

  25. I think I'm more excited about, In Search Of The Castaways. I was just turned 12 when I saw it (& 12 was a lot younger in 1962 than it is now), & it was quite magical; the earthquake leading then sliding down those ice caves, the big eagle carrying off one of the children, & most of all, the huge wave & the big tree that saves them (& Maurice Chevalier singing Enjoy It). I haven't seen it for decades & I don't know how it will stand up now that I'm old & cynical. If I see it at a reasonable price on ebay I'll buy it.

  26. I'll admit that I'm not a huge Disney fan, and I already own most of their films that interest me, but I joined the club yesterday JUST to get my hands on 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea. Along with Journey to the Center of the Earth, this film made a huge impression on me as a kid and became part of my DNA. Can't WAIT to see it in HD!

  27. John Sparks

    Actually I got the date wrong on the reopening of the theater. I saw the film in 2003, which was about 8 years after it reopened.

    As a LAFD fire inspector, I had the privilege to walk thru the whole theater including the entire building. Wow, they dropped a bundle restoring it.

    So you had Ray Harryhausen in your home and you get to inspect classic theaters. I’ll just sit here and eat my heart out. 😉

  28. Thanks for the discussion about calling CS to add the free shipping for life perk to an existing membership. I just tried that and CS was happy to add it for me. I don't know if trying that would have occured to me without this thread.

  29. Mike2001

    Thanks for the discussion about calling CS to add the free shipping for life perk to an existing membership. I just tried that and CS was happy to add it for me. I don't know if trying that would have occured to me without this thread.

    That just started in the last couple weeks. I think they've gotten so many longer term members calling to cancel and re-enroll specifically for that perk (or calling and complaining about new members getting a better deal) I guess they figured it was better just to keep their current members. I was less surprised at the US club doing that, but pretty much shocked when I heard a couple of the canadians get the same offer – they've been dying for a Free Shipping option.

    The other weird thing is the sales tax — not that they're having to do it like almost everyone, but which states still are exempt. New York and Texas went early with the Amazon Tax but are still exempt with DMC, but Florida was the shocker with all of Disney's businesses based there.

  30. David Norman

    Can't tell from the smiley if you already know, but Exclusives usually don't have pre-orders — they just go live on release day

    Yes, I know they don't take pre-orders, but I just wanted to show my enthusiasm to pick them up as soon as possible. Thanks @David Norman!

  31. holtge

    Yes, I know they don't take pre-orders, but I just wanted to show my enthusiasm to pick them up as soon as possible. Thanks @David Norman!

    I thought you already knew that, but just in case non DMC folks are reading just to make sure they know that joining today won't allow them order order fro release day delivery.

    There has always been a bit of slough room starting Thu-Mond prerelease where sometimes they cna manually place the order for you — lately it's been Monday since the phones/chat don't work weekends

  32. dana martin

    So now that this is actually happening, what becomes the next holy grail from Disney The Black Hole or Never Cry Wolf?

    Not counting items that likely will never see the light of day – not in any special order, but highly requested titles:

    These are the one's I hear most often asked for
    ** 101 and 102 Dalmatians — I think a very strong chance these come around Cruella
    Flubber (Robin Williams) — shocked this wasn't released with the Fred McMurray pair. It even had an announcement and picture in Bluray case inside one of the Disney's
    ** Make Mine Music/Melody Time – unedited
    Black Cauldron –( the Magnificent Ambersons Cut)
    ** Black Hole
    ** Darby O'Gill
    Happiest Millionaire
    Angels in the Outfield — esp right after Mighty Ducks

    Jodie Foster:
    Candleshoe
    Napoleon and Samantha

    Hayley Mills:
    Moon Spinners
    Summer Magic
    That Darn Cat
    Parent Trap II/IIi/IV — Tv Movies

    Never Cry Wolf
    Cat From Outer Space
    Kidnapped
    Shaggy Dog
    Shaggy DA
    Those Calloways
    The One and Only, Genuine, Original Family Band — Mike Frezon by himself gets this one high on the list
    Horse in the Grey Flannel Suit
    The 3rd Dexter Riley title — Now you See Now You Don't
    The Barefoot Executive
    Great Locomotive Chase
    The Incredible Journey
    Worlds Greatest Athlete
    Castaway Cowboy
    No Deposit No Return
    Hot lead and Cold Feet
    Apple Dumpling Returns
    North Avenue Irregulars
    Watcher in the Woods
    Something Wicked This Way Comes

  33. David Norman

    Not counting items that likely will never see the light of day – not in any special order, but highly requested titles:

    These are the one's I hear most often asked for
    ** 101 and 102 Dalmatians — I think a very strong chance these come around Cruella
    Flubber (Robin Williams) — shocked this wasn't released with the Fred McMurray pair. It even had an announcement and picture in Bluray case inside one of the Disney's
    ** Make Mine Music/Melody Time – unedited
    Black Cauldron –( the Magnificent Ambersons Cut)
    ** Black Hole
    ** Darby O'Gill
    Happiest Millionaire
    Angels in the Outfield — esp right after Mighty Ducks

    Jodie Foster:
    Candleshoe
    Napoleon and Samantha

    Hayley Mills:
    Moon Spinners
    Summer Magic
    That Darn Cat
    Parent Trap II/IIi/IV — Tv Movies

    Never Cry Wolf
    Cat From Outer Space
    Kidnapped
    Shaggy Dog
    Shaggy DA
    Those Calloways
    The One and Only, Genuine, Original Family Band — Mike Frezon by himself gets this one high on the list
    Horse in the Grey Flannel Suit
    The 3rd Dexter Riley title — Now you See Now You Don't
    The Barefoot Executive
    Great Locomotive Chase
    The Incredible Journey
    Worlds Greatest Athlete
    Castaway Cowboy
    No Deposit No Return
    Hot lead and Cold Feet
    Apple Dumpling Returns
    North Avenue Irregulars
    Watcher in the Woods
    Something Wicked This Way Comes

    look at that bolded title it cost me a grade because i skipped a test in college that day to see it, yes its high on the list
    Somethng Wicked
    Make Mine/ Melody Time
    Cry Wolf

  34. Johnny Angell

    Black Cauldron-The Magnificent Amberson’s Cut? What is that?

    the original uncut version of the film with 12 min or so fo finished animation and elmer bernstine score that were removed to remove some of the "darkness" of the film

  35. Johnny Angell

    Black Cauldron-The Magnificent Amberson’s Cut? What is that?

    The supposed original version of the film that may have been the nearly finished movie, but was slashed by the studios after apparently a screening which terrified (or terrorized) several children in the audience, never released, and possibly had the original elements destroyed/lost/hidden away so it's become a legend in it's own time despite the fact that very few people actually ever saw the actual product.

    Not only was a lot cut, but other parts were rewritten, reanimated, and reedited supposedly directly by Katzenberg who took over the film from the animators, director, and producers over their loud objections and possibly even again the wishes of Eisner depending on whose version of the story you believe.

    Apparently if it has gone through as originally written it would have been at least a PG13 and some folks thought maybe an R rating. Would it at least have been a well reviewed financial disaster gaining a cult following over time (like Waterworld) if it had been left alone instead of a mess that was a financial disaster and received horrible reviews.

  36. David Norman

    The supposed original version of the film that may have been the nearly finished movie, but was slashed by the studios after apparently a screening which terrified (or terrorized) several children in the audience, never released, and possibly had the original elements destroyed/lost/hidden away so it's become a legend in it's own time despite the fact that very few people actually ever saw the actual product.

    Not only was a lot cut, but other parts were rewritten, reanimated, and reedited supposedly directly by Katzenberg who took over the film from the animators, director, and producers over their loud objections and possibly even again the wishes of Eisner depending on whose version of the story you believe.

    Apparently if it has gone through as originally written it would have been at least a PG13 and some folks thought maybe an R rating. Would it at least have been a well reviewed financial disaster gaining a cult following over time (like Waterworld) if it had been left alone instead of a mess that was a financial disaster and received horrible reviews.

    I remember seeing this film at the theater and it terrified me without the lost footage… 🙂 The Horned King is one of the scariest villains in Disney history.

  37. I'm so glad D decided to finally release some of these classic titles. It's a lot of fun to watch the excitement here at HTF.
    It just proves once again – if you release 'em we'll buy 'em.

  38. benbess

    Looks like I'll be joining the Disney movie club for 20k Under the Sea. Finally. Are there any sites for promo codes? I guess the basic offer is pretty good….

    The basic code is decent, but it's 60-80% more expensive than the premium codes I listed in DMC thread Doug's link — post 715. I also strongly suggest reading the comprehensive FAQ a couple times from bluray.com link

    If you have more than 2 full priced commitments after the initial enrollment package of 6 for $13 or 7 for $22 you are burning $$$

    The 2 premium promo sign-up codes currently are
    BASICS
    1) 5 titles for $1 with 3 required items $19.95 or more (with no customer discounts) over 24 months.
    2) Optional Bonus Pick 1 for $11.95 counts as commitment #1 so only 2 full priced items
    3) optional Bonus Pick 2 for $8.95 — not a commitment

    —–> Promo Code 61749 with FREE SHIPPING on the ENTIRETY of the membership, and comes with a blanket featuring Coco! [Fall 2018]
    —–> Promo Code 55218 with FREE SHIPPING on the ENTIRETY of the membership, and comes with a blanket featuring Jack Jack from Incredibles 2! [Jan. 2019]

    Someone on Bluray said the Jack-Jack blanket may be sold out so at some point they may offer you an alternative (Moana, Dory, Lightning McQueen, or possibly Coco). The blanket ships separately so it being OOS/Sold Out won't delay the rest of the package or affect your membership

  39. Mark-P

    It will be the same immaculate restoration that has been on iTunes but at a substantially higher bitrate. You have nothing to worry about. The sound is a 5.1 mix based on the original 4.0 magnetic tracks.

    Sound the same as the DVD?

  40. David Norman

    The basic code is decent, but it's 60-80% more expensive than the premium codes I listed in DMC thread Doug's link — post 715. I also strongly suggest reading the comprehensive FAQ a couple times from bluray.com link

    If you have more than 2 full priced commitments after the initial enrollment package of 6 for $13 or 7 for $22 you are burning $$$

    The 2 premium promo sign-up codes currently are
    BASICS
    1) 5 titles for $1 with 3 required items $19.95 or more (with no customer discounts) over 24 months.
    2) Optional Bonus Pick 1 for $11.95 counts as commitment #1 so only 2 full priced items
    3) optional Bonus Pick 2 for $8.95 — not a commitment

    —–> Promo Code 61749 with FREE SHIPPING on the ENTIRETY of the membership, and comes with a blanket featuring Coco! [Fall 2018]
    —–> Promo Code 55218 with FREE SHIPPING on the ENTIRETY of the membership, and comes with a blanket featuring Jack Jack from Incredibles 2! [Jan. 2019]

    Someone on Bluray said the Jack-Jack blanket may be sold out so at some point they may offer you an alternative (Moana, Dory, Lightning McQueen, or possibly Coco). The blanket ships separately so it being OOS/Sold Out won't delay the rest of the package or affect your membership

    Just to note, once you've completed your DMC obligation and are a "VIP" member, you do get some decent discounts on desired titles. The catch is you have to buy at least 1 full price title to get the discounts on other titles.
    Oh and I have cancelled & rejoined once before. I'd do it again except I pretty much have most of the DMC titles I desire unless DMC does a mass release of yet-unreleased classic live action titles.

  41. Vegas 1

    I was browsing the DMC site yesterday I didn't see any 4K UHD titles, do they not carry those?

    They carry all of them, but they aren't available for the initial enrollment picks.

    In the DMC thread (post 715?) linked above is a Google Spreadsheet with all the all the current titles that members have access to
    and also breaks out the 250 enrollment eligible titles. On the signup site, it can be confusing about what's a BD and what's DVD only, but
    if you search the Catalog Number on the sign-up website, it should take you directly to the item if it's eligible (about 95+% accurate). You still have to choose Bluray at the next submission, but it's a pretty good resource to look at and see what available initially and as a member

  42. Brad here. I put the following up on the Interview With Criterion as a candidate question but thought I'd replicate it here for general discussion since we are now getting 20K-LUTS on Blu.

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    Dear Criterion:
    With the recent announcement that the Disney Movie Club will soon be releasing the long-awaited Blu-ray for 20000 Leagues Under The Sea (1954) would your people at Criterion see an increased interest in two later films connected to the Jules Verne classic, Mysterious Island(1961) and Captain Nemo And The Underwater City (1969) to a point where we might see some additional Blu-ray releases?

    (Note I'm not asking if Criterion would release these two films on Blu-ray but do you see some interest in these films in the home entertainment market?)

    As we know, Twilight Time has already twice released Mysterious Island, selling out both print runs. Captain Nemo And The Underwater City has been released on DVD.
    ========================================================================================

  43. David Norman

    They carry all of them, but they aren't available for the initial enrollment picks.

    In the DMC thread (post 715?) linked above is a Google Spreadsheet with all the all the current titles that members have access to
    and also breaks out the 250 enrollment eligible titles. On the signup site, it can be confusing about what's a BD and what's DVD only, but
    if you search the Catalog Number on the sign-up website, it should take you directly to the item if it's eligible (about 95+% accurate). You still have to choose Bluray at the next submission, but it's a pretty good resource to look at and see what available initially and as a member

    OK thanks for the info!

  44. Oh, why can’t these releases be as easily available as the Warner Archive Collection so that those of us outside the USA can get then too?

    I’ve missed out on Freaky Friday, the two Witch Mountain films and now these. 🙁

  45. Arthur Powell

    Sweet! Walt era classics finally! I'll happily add both to my collection! "In Search of the Castaways" is particularly nice to see since I can finally retire my full-screen DVD. Now let's top this in the next cycle with "The Happiest Millionaire"!

    Oh we think alike, one of my most longed for blurays, The Happiest Millionaire. With the exciting news of 20,000 Leagues, which is day 1 for me, this renews hope for Millionaire and maybe even the restored Bedknobs.

    Strange, today was the first time I went to the Disney Club site in months and didn'the see these 2 anywhere, and tonight I found it here. So I just looked on the club site again and still don't see it in upcoming bluras.

  46. Ross Gowland

    Oh, why can’t these releases be as easily available as the Warner Archive Collection so that those of us outside the USA can get then too?

    I’ve missed out on Freaky Friday, the two Witch Mountain films and now these. 🙁

    Ross, I do believe that someone here on HTF would be willing to be USA based go-between who can purchase your desired DMC titles and have them shipped to you by financial agreement, as long of course that it’s all legal.
    The titles you mentioned should still be available from DMC.

    If I was home a lot more, and not doing so much business travel, I’d volunteer.

  47. David Norman

    You can try, but DMC generally shuts down most accounts signed up with known reshipper companies before they even ship the first item.

    The cost of some these basically pushes it right back into Ebay territory anyway

    There have been some short term successes with new companies or less well know addresses, but most of the time DMC seems to find them and cancel the account eventually.

    Yeah, perish the thought that a customer gets your product. 🙄

  48. Good news.

    I don't think I've ever even seen In Search of the Castaways, so seeing it remastered on Blu-Ray will be a treat.

    Edit: My Hayley Mills fan credentials should be revoked, since I just looked up what movie it was. Not only have I seen it, but I own the old DVD release of it.

  49. dpippel

    I'll admit that I'm not a huge Disney fan, and I already own most of their films that interest me, but I joined the club yesterday JUST to get my hands on 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea. Along with Journey to the Center of the Earth, this film made a huge impression on me as a kid and became part of my DNA. Can't WAIT to see it in HD!

    I am not a huge Disney fan, either. I would love to upgrade my DVD of 20,000 Leagues, but I am not joining Disney's club just to get that one title. I'll make due with what I have.

  50. Scott Merryfield

    I am not a huge Disney fan, either. I would love to upgrade my DVD of 20,000 Leagues, but I am not joining Disney's club just to get that one title. I'll make due with what I have.

    I'd suggest asking one of the current DMC members to order an extra copy for you. Obviously I love DMC and for anyone who wants more than 3 or 4 of the exclusives it's probably cheaper to join, finish, and cancel even if you tossed the extra items in the trash. For those who just want 1 or 2 titles, pairing up with a member or even splitting an enrollment with someone else that just wants a few titles can be quite nice.

    I'd offer to help you directly, but to discourage resellers DMC is pretty strict on ordering more than a couple extra copies of a single title and I've already offered to help some a couple people I've helped before.

  51. Ross Gowland

    Oh, why can’t these releases be as easily available as the Warner Archive Collection so that those of us outside the USA can get then too? 🙁

    Even if you live in the US, joining a club just to buy a Blu-ray stinks. Fortunately the movie is available in HD on iTunes or to stream for free on Hoopla. Am interested in buying the BD, but just not interested in joining the "club" so unfortunately will be sitting this one out and watching the free stream on Hoopla.

  52. Best guess assuming 6/18 is actually release then I think mid-late August.
    60-90 days is most common, but the Exclusive tend to be on the shorter side. I'd check around 8/13 which would be the normal August FT cycle, but a better chance around 8/19 or 8/20

    Mary Poppins Returns released 3/19 and became eligible last Monday night
    Ralph 2 and Little Mermaid released 2/26 and became eligible 4/29.

  53. Best guess assuming 6/18 is actually release then I think mid-late August.
    60-90 days is most common, but the Exclusive tend to be on the shorter side. I'd check around 8/13 which would be the normal August FT cycle, but a better chance around 8/19 or 8/20

    Mary Poppins Returns released 3/19 and became eligible last Monday night
    Ralph 2 and Little Mermaid released 2/26 and became eligible 4/29.

  54. David Norman

    Disney Movie Club – 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea (1954) Blu-ray

    Rather than put this in the exclusive thread I think this deserves it's own thread. DMR Coming soon section now showing 2 titles that surely nobody can complain too much about — though I know better.

    Release Date is TBA, but most likely possible date 6/18 given that it's slotted ahead of Cinderella Signature release

    Details are non existent, but I wouldn't expect a comprehensive release with a lot of extras (or any).

    Let the complaints begin

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    Disney Movie Club – In Search of the Castaways (1962) Blu-ray

    [​IMG]

    No complaints. Disney's 'exclusives' are notorious for omitting extras that were readily available on their DVD releases. I am exceedingly grateful to see two more deep catalog titles coming down the pike at Disney – especially the long overdue 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea which will be a day one purchase for me, and I suspect, a lot of the Home Theater Forum members. One gripe. As Disney's exclusives do not ship to Canada I will be ordering this from some third-party Amazon dealer and pay waaaaaaaay too much for it. But I still want it. A great classic is still a great classic! Bottom line: can't wait. Hopefully, an actual date is announced real soon.

  55. I hope Disney ramps up their deeper catalog releases. Would love to see The Happiest Millionaire, the complete Bedknobs and Broomsticks, That Darn Cat, The Moonspinners, The Shaggy Dog, and, Darby O'Gill and the Little People get released to Blu. Great deep catalog from Disney. Oh, and Candleshoe, The Three Lives of Thomasina, Third Man on the Mountain, and, The North Ave. Irregulars too. I know. I know. Be grateful for what's being offered. Believe me – I am!

  56. Nick*Z

    I hope Disney ramps up their deeper catalog releases. Would love to see The Happiest Millionaire, the complete Bedknobs and Broomsticks, That Darn Cat, The Moonspinners, The Shaggy Dog, and, Darby O'Gill and the Little People get released to Blu. Great deep catalog from Disney. Oh, and Candleshoe, The Three Lives of Thomasina, Third Man on the Mountain, and, The North Ave. Irregulars too. I know. I know. Be grateful for what's being offered. Believe me – I am!

    These two newest releases do give us hope:banana:

  57. Nick*Z

    No complaints. Disney's 'exclusives' are notorious for omitting extras that were readily available on their DVD releases. I am exceedingly grateful to see two more deep catalog titles coming down the pike at Disney – especially the long overdue 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea which will be a day one purchase for me, and I suspect, a lot of the Home Theater Forum members. One gripe. As Disney's exclusives do not ship to Canada I will be ordering this from some third-party Amazon dealer and pay waaaaaaaay too much for it. But I still want it. A great classic is still a great classic! Bottom line: can't wait. Hopefully, an actual date is announced real soon.

    Disney Movie Club does have a Canadian side (not Quebec). The promo codes and requirement are slightly diffferent, but actually not too bad with the best promotional code.

    I suggest checking DMC Canada thread at Bluray.com if you haven't looked into it.

  58. David, going back to the op on this I’m dont think the negative “let the complaints begin” was the right way to go.

    There really hasn’t been many complaints other then the availability for some people.
    Seems like more people are thrilled that 20,000 is actually arriving on Blu-ray. I know I am.

    Instead of let’s hear the complaints I might have gone with Let the excitement commence.

  59. Would be nice and I'm pleased at the relative low amt of negatives that this set generated (not totally shocked honestly), but I just get fed up with the non-stop complaints in Warner Archive, DMC/Exclusive, Kino's Twilight Time, even Criterion announcement etc. Everybody wants their favorite the way they want it and at a price they want it at and just about every new announcement is drowned by "WHY this crap and not mine, Why are they so stupid" For every "I can't wait", it seems usually there are half dozen "that sucks"

    I have little love for Mighty Ducks or Goofy Movies, but a ton of people have been clamoring for those for a long time and I'm happy they got a chance to get them. I'd say those may have had more requests over the years than 20000 Leagues has had, though I suspect there is a huge age split on them

    The lack of extras it bothersome, but the DVD is in print and relatively cheap for those that don't already have it — relatively easy fix.
    A few complaints about DMC in general like always and I really do feel bad for the internationals who are hung out with limited options.

  60. If I still worked for a home video label producing physical media, I think I'd be existing in a perpetual state of despair. Take a title like "20,000 Leagues Under The Sea" where people have been claiming to want it for ages. So Disney finally announces it. While there's an initial wave of joy at the announcement, the complaints start immediately: Why aren't there new bonus features? Why aren't the old bonus features included? Doesn't matter that the DMC Exclusive line, by design, is not meant to include these things, the complaints still come. And then, almost immediately, the lists. "Why not this movie instead? If they're doing 20,000 Leagues today, then tomorrow they should do these dozens of titles!" And then the complains from people who now declare they won't buy. "I won't buy it, it doesn't include extras." "I've asked for this title for years, but I'm waiting until it's available on a cheap sale." "I don't like their business model, I won't support it."

    I'm not saying that's everyone here at HTF – this thread has been pretty cool – but whenever I see a prominent wish list title being announced by someone, the amount of complaints over what's not included, the immediate inundation of lists where we can't even for a moment just be happy that we're getting something that's long been anticipated without asking for more, and the amount of people who immediately declare they won't purchase until it's priced in such a way that the label would be breaking even or trying to cut their losses always seems to outnumber the group of people who are just happy to finally be getting something they've long hoped for a chance to get.

    Like I said, if I was still in that business, I'd feel enormously discouraged all the time.

  61. Josh Steinberg

    If I still worked for a home video label producing physical media, I think I'd be existing in a perpetual state of despair. Take a title like "20,000 Leagues Under The Sea" where people have been claiming to want it for ages. So Disney finally announces it. While there's an initial wave of joy at the announcement, the complaints start immediately: Why aren't there new bonus features? Why aren't the old bonus features included? Doesn't matter that the DMC Exclusive line, by design, is not meant to include these things, the complaints still come. And then, almost immediately, the lists. "Why not this movie instead? If they're doing 20,000 Leagues today, then tomorrow they should do these dozens of titles!" And then the complains from people who now declare they won't buy. "I won't buy it, it doesn't include extras." "I've asked for this title for years, but I'm waiting until it's available on a cheap sale." "I don't like their business model, I won't support it."

    I'm not saying that's everyone here at HTF – this thread has been pretty cool – but whenever I see a prominent wish list title being announced by someone, the amount of complaints over what's not included, the immediate inundation of lists where we can't even for a moment just be happy that we're getting something that's long been anticipated without asking for more, and the amount of people who immediately declare they won't purchase until it's priced in such a way that the label would be breaking even or trying to cut their losses always seems to outnumber the group of people who are just happy to finally be getting something they've long hoped for a chance to get.

    Like I said, if I was still in that business, I'd feel enormously discouraged all the time.

    Amen to that, Josh! 🙂

  62. Josh Steinberg

    the complaints start immediately: Why aren't there new bonus features? Why aren't the old bonus features included? Doesn't matter that the DMC Exclusive line, by design, is not meant to include these things, the complaints still come.

    I think a complaint about the old not being ported over is valid. Just because they put it in a particular line for release, doesn't excuse them for not keeping the old extras. Jeez would it kill them? Of course I'm disappointed they are requiring a club membership to get it.

  63. David Norman

    Would be nice and I'm pleased at the relative low amt of negatives that this set generated (not totally shocked honestly), but I just get fed up with the non-stop complaints in Warner Archive, DMC/Exclusive, Kino's Twilight Time, even Criterion announcement etc. Everybody wants their favorite the way they want it and at a price they want it at and just about every new announcement is drowned by "WHY this crap and not mine, Why are they so stupid" For every "I can't wait", it seems usually there are half dozen "that sucks"

    I have little love for Mighty Ducks or Goofy Movies, but a ton of people have been clamoring for those for a long time and I'm happy they got a chance to get them. I'd say those may have had more requests over the years than 20000 Leagues has had, though I suspect there is a huge age split on them

    The lack of extras it bothersome, but the DVD is in print and relatively cheap for those that don't already have it — relatively easy fix.
    A few complaints about DMC in general like always and I really do feel bad for the internationals who are hung out with limited options.

    This.

    Josh Steinberg

    If I still worked for a home video label producing physical media, I think I'd be existing in a perpetual state of despair. Take a title like "20,000 Leagues Under The Sea" where people have been claiming to want it for ages. So Disney finally announces it. While there's an initial wave of joy at the announcement, the complaints start immediately: Why aren't there new bonus features? Why aren't the old bonus features included? Doesn't matter that the DMC Exclusive line, by design, is not meant to include these things, the complaints still come. And then, almost immediately, the lists. "Why not this movie instead? If they're doing 20,000 Leagues today, then tomorrow they should do these dozens of titles!" And then the complains from people who now declare they won't buy. "I won't buy it, it doesn't include extras." "I've asked for this title for years, but I'm waiting until it's available on a cheap sale." "I don't like their business model, I won't support it."

    I'm not saying that's everyone here at HTF – this thread has been pretty cool – but whenever I see a prominent wish list title being announced by someone, the amount of complaints over what's not included, the immediate inundation of lists where we can't even for a moment just be happy that we're getting something that's long been anticipated without asking for more, and the amount of people who immediately declare they won't purchase until it's priced in such a way that the label would be breaking even or trying to cut their losses always seems to outnumber the group of people who are just happy to finally be getting something they've long hoped for a chance to get.

    Like I said, if I was still in that business, I'd feel enormously discouraged all the time.

    And this.

    I come here for informed, adult discussion about a hobby I love, but get so tired of trawling through countless whining posts seemingly written by impatient, spoilt, sulky children. You know who you are, so stop it and grow up!

  64. Johnny Angell

    I think a complaint about the old not being ported over is valid.

    I don't mean to suggest that the complaint is invalid, it's just that… this is what the DMC Exclusives line is and always has been. I think it's okay to be disappointed that they don't include all the existing stuff on the new disc, so that I could just get rid of the old one instead of having to Frankenstein them into one package. But this is also how DMC releases movies, so I don't think it's practical to get outraged over their lack of inclusion either.

    I really wasn't trying to single you out, Johnny, and I sincerely apologize if it came across that way.

    I was just trying to convey how demoralizing it must be if you work at DMC, and you've heard people for years say they want "20,000 Leagues" and finally you announce it, and the voices complaining about what's not on the disc (and never would have been on the disc) are suddenly louder than the voices who said they wanted it in the first place.

  65. Brent Reid

    countless whining posts seemingly written by impatient, spoilt, sulky children.

    Impatient. It's the first blu ray release is 2019 for a movie made in the 50's. How long has blu ray been out. I'd say most have been patient.

  66. Josh Steinberg

    I don't mean to suggest that the complaint is invalid, it's just that… this is what the DMC Exclusives line is and always has been.

    My point is they made a choice to not have the old extras, then they put in DMC Ex and think no one should be disappointed.

  67. RICK BOND

    Ordered my copy today of 20,000 Leagues ! $30.00 including shipping ! : ) Private (Ebay) seller. No Disney club ever for me. It's Not Necessary. : )

    Might I be able to interest you in a piece of land in Florida – It has a view of the ocean on several sides you will have exclusive access to the area … :D?

    The blu-rays aren't even available for pre-order …
    Here while your waiting – count these chickens …
    [​IMG] 😉

  68. B-ROLL

    Might I be able to interest you in a piece of land in Florida – It has a view of the ocean on several sides you will have exclusive access to the area … :D?

    The blu-rays aren't even available for pre-order …
    Here while your waiting – count these chickens …
    [​IMG] 😉

  69. There are rules in HTF country, gentlemen:

    Conduct
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  70. Disney's 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea. James Mason's Captain Nemo calls for collision speed. Even as a kid there were two characters that I liked by far the best in this film—Captain Nemo and the Nautilus. Kirk Douglas and Peter Lorre are great, but….I still feel a little guilty about liking the ambiguous "bad guy" in this film.

  71. benbess

    I can't wait to get 20k Under the Sea. This is the only truly and grandly "A-budget" Sci Fi movie of the 1950s. Everything about this movie is fantastic.

    Have to disagree with you there. Forbidden Planet was very much an A budget movie. Robbie alone cost a LOT of money. Joshua Meador, one of the Disney animators, did the Monster from the Id.

  72. RobertR

    Have to disagree with you there. Forbidden Planet was very much an A budget movie. Robbie alone cost a LOT of money. Joshua Meador, one of the Disney animators, did the Monster from the Id.

    Good point.

    (Although the production budget of Forbidden Planet was c. 1.9 million, while the cost for 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea two years earlier was somewhere around $5 million.)

  73. One of my favorite anecdotes about the making of the film: A guy playing one of the cannibals had a shirt that said "Eat at Joe's". Another guy countered with a shirt that said "I ate Joe".

  74. benbess

    In Disney's 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea James Mason's Captain Nemo calls for collision speed. Even as a kid there were two characters that I liked by far the best in this film—Captain Nemo and the Nautilus. Kirk Douglas and Peter Lorre are great, but….I still feel a little guilty about liking the ambiguous "bad guy" in this film.

    James Mason's performance is superb and contributes enormously to the quality of the film.

  75. benbess

    In Disney's 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea James Mason's Captain Nemo calls for collision speed. Even as a kid there were two characters that I liked by far the best in this film—Captain Nemo and the Nautilus. Kirk Douglas and Peter Lorre are great, but….I still feel a little guilty about liking the ambiguous "bad guy" in this film.

    James Mason's performance is superb and contributes enormously to the quality of the film.

  76. Hey guys, I saw this thread earlier in the week and I was stunned by it, both that Disney is finally releasing this and my surprise as to what DMC is.

    I’ve never heard of it!

    I did a little reading on the Disney site about it and it’s not something I was aware of. I’m used to just going to a B&M store or Amazon to pick up my DVD and Blu rays. I’m not sure I like this idea of having to join a club and then commit to buying a set number of titles, if I understand the concept. So I think I need to better understand this. I already own many titles I see there, but there are a few I don’t have. So maybe those are some I go for. It’s a good thing Disney has the Pixar, Star Wars and Marvel titles so that widens their audience.

    I’ve been waiting for Disney to release this on HD so I’ve been looking forward to getting the disc. But this being the only way via DMC may not be for me. As I said, I think I have to better understand how it works. I’m glad it’s finally coming out on blu ray though! I hope to be able to add this title to my collection later this year when it’s available.

  77. In the 'Anybody Join DMC' around post 715 (I think) I put some links and a bit of a quick summary.

    Make sure to read the first couple posts Bluray.com Master thread — post 2 is a pretty comprehensive FAQ. This is mostly about the US side, but there is a Canadian DMC with slightly different rules though functions in much the same way,

    Bottom line if done optimally with the best Promo codes (beware there are tons of worse promotional codes) you are only commiting to buy 2 regular priced titles at $19.95 or higher is 24 months in exchange for getting 6 upfront titles for $13 or 7 for $22 (plus tax now for most people). There are around 250 Blurays (and tons of DVDs) eligible for that initial package of 6-7 itmes so it's not even that limited other than no 4K/3D/StarWars/Most brand new releases. Though a lot of the older and esp the older Live Action titles and Second Tier items are overpriced, most of the new releases are close to the same price as Best Buy plus of course the 40-50 items that are exclusive to DMC.

    The only other commitment is to respond about 15 times per year they send you an offer from their Featured TItle — decline it or they'll automatically send it to you like most of these Media Clubs since the 60's, These days this can be done online in less than a minute so they try to make it pretty easy

  78. If you like Disney movies and have gaps in your collection, joining the DMC is a great way to get those titles that you've missed over the years. It's a good deal per title, and since there are a few titles that are exclusive to the DMC that also makes it worthwhile too imho. Anyway, I just joined and I'm looking forward to my package of movies. I'm guessing thought that it's going to take maybe 3 weeks or so for my blu-rays to actually arrive…

  79. If you like Disney movies and have gaps in your collection, joining the DMC is a great way to get those titles that you've missed over the years. It's a good deal per title, and since there are a few titles that are exclusive to the DMC that also makes it worthwhile too imho. Anyway, I just joined and I'm looking forward to my package of movies. I'm guessing thought that it's going to take maybe 3 weeks or so for my blu-rays to actually arrive…

  80. benbess

    If you like Disney movies and have gaps in your collection, joining the DMC is a great way to get those titles that you've missed over the years. It's a good deal per title, and since there are a few titles that are exclusive to the DMC that also makes it worthwhile too imho. Anyway, I just joined and I'm looking forward to my package of movies. I'm guessing thought that it's going to take maybe 3 weeks or so for my blu-rays to actually arrive…

    Usually sooner than that unless something if backordered from the Warehouse. Average for initial order is around 10 days though DMC doesn't do holidays nor weekends

    Other bonuses are discount offers to "Buy 1 at Regular Price 19.95+, get the rest of your discount eligible titles (almost all) for 40/50/60% off: Before meeting you required you get mostly 40% and some 50%, afterwards you get 50% and 60% offers — or you can just cancel with not further requirements (or rejoin with the same promo)

  81. benbess

    If you like Disney movies and have gaps in your collection, joining the DMC is a great way to get those titles that you've missed over the years. It's a good deal per title, and since there are a few titles that are exclusive to the DMC that also makes it worthwhile too imho. Anyway, I just joined and I'm looking forward to my package of movies. I'm guessing thought that it's going to take maybe 3 weeks or so for my blu-rays to actually arrive…

    Usually sooner than that unless something if backordered from the Warehouse. Average for initial order is around 10 days though DMC doesn't do holidays nor weekends

    Other bonuses are discount offers to "Buy 1 at Regular Price 19.95+, get the rest of your discount eligible titles (almost all) for 40/50/60% off: Before meeting you required you get mostly 40% and some 50%, afterwards you get 50% and 60% offers — or you can just cancel with not further requirements (or rejoin with the same promo)

  82. Thanks for the all the great replies about how DMC works! Bob, I’ll review that thread linked too.

    David, and Ben, thanks for the added info! I’ll look for the blu ray.com thread you mentioned too. At least there’s some time before 20,000 Leagues comes out to learn all I can.

  83. Thanks for the all the great replies about how DMC works! Bob, I’ll review that thread linked too.

    David, and Ben, thanks for the added info! I’ll look for the blu ray.com thread you mentioned too. At least there’s some time before 20,000 Leagues comes out to learn all I can.

  84. Nelson Au

    Thanks for the all the great replies about how DMC works! Bob, I’ll review that thread linked too.

    David, and Ben, thanks for the added info! I’ll look for the blu ray.com thread you mentioned too. At least there’s some time before 20,000 Leagues comes out to learn all I can.

    I think the guess is that 20k won't be available as a joining promotion for the first month of its release. Since I'd like it asap I joined for other movies, and I'll just buy 20k as a full price blu-ray as soon as it is available to help fulfill my membership.

  85. The DMC is the same model as the old as Columbia House and BMG music clubs, if you are old enough to remember those. I belonged to both of them at different times when I was a lot younger, and before there were websites for quick "negative responses" or selecting items. It was a great way to build up a collection of LPs or CDs. Since Disney doesn't include 4K items in their fulfillment, though, their club does not work for me personally. I have about all the Disney / Marvel./ Pixar titles on BD that I want already.

    I would buy the streaming version of 20,000 Leagues on Vudu or iTunes, but my price ceiling for an HDX title is $5, and there is no way a Disney title will be offered at that price. So, I will stick with the DVD.

  86. Scott Merryfield

    The DMC is the same model as the old as Columbia House and BMG music clubs, if you are old enough to remember those. I belonged to both of them at different times when I was a lot younger, and before there were websites for quick "negative responses" or selecting items. It was a great way to build up a collection of LPs or CDs. Since Disney doesn't include 4K items in their fulfillment, though, their club does not work for me personally. I have about all the Disney / Marvel./ Pixar titles on BD that I want already.

    I would buy the streaming version of 20,000 Leagues on Vudu or iTunes, but my price ceiling for an HDX title is $5, and there is no way a Disney title will be offered at that price. So, I will stick with the DVD.

    Unless I mis-reading (or mixing terms) — the 4K title are available for your fulfillments/commitments, just not for your initial enrollment package. OTOH, if you don't have those 1st 6 regular BD titles (including older Exclusives) to get it will not work well in your situation.

  87. I'll put things simply about DMC: I'm averaging about $8-9 per movie through DMC. I use the new releases as my commitment titles. I have Captain Marvel pre-ordered, and the 4K disc at DMC is the same price that Amazon is charging right now. (Although the Amazon listing is a little unclear as to which format is available.)

  88. Scott Merryfield

    I would buy the streaming version of 20,000 Leagues on Vudu or iTunes, but my price ceiling for an HDX title is $5, and there is no way a Disney title will be offered at that price. So, I will stick with the DVD.

    I don't recall a Disney title ever being that low, however 20,000 Leagues has been as low as $7.99

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  89. I think $7.99 is the lowest I've seen classic Disney catalog titles, and I did jump at The Black Hole at that price. I missed 20,000 Leagues when it was discounted there, but I guess that actually just worked in my favor since I'll just get the disc now.

  90. benbess

    Wow! Where did you get that historical chart?? But that's for the DVD, right? Do you have a chart like that for the Bambi blu-ray by any chance?

    I thought that was the Digital price chart given the prior conversation. The DVD price chart would be 15 yrs+

    camelcamelcamel can give you the historical Amazon price trend on most titles by UPC or ASIN

    Bambi Signature — Amazon (can also select 3rd party)
    https://camelcamelcamel.com/BAMBI-Blu-ray-Hardy-Albright/product/B06XS99HCG

    20000 Leagues DVD
    https://camelcamelcamel.com/Disneys-Leagues-Under-Two-Disc-Special/product/B00005JKU0

  91. I loved 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea as a kid. However, I’ll be a No on Disney Exclusive purchases. I don’t really care for their way of doing things in the last 20 years

  92. I last joined and quickly cancelled DMC, at least 5 years ago. At that time, I stated to myself it would take the release of 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea to get me back. Well it finally happened, and i will have no issue finding seven exclusives released over the past five years for the initial order, with both these titles to complete my commitment so i can cancel again. Nine titles for $8-9 a piece is a no-brainer. Next on the list be will be Dr Syn on blu-ray. Some how I see another five years coming on…

  93. RICK BOND

    Ordered my copy today of 20,000 Leagues ! $30.00 including shipping ! : ) Private (Ebay) seller. No Disney club ever for me. It's Not Necessary. : )

    I'm really curious as to what you'll receive. As already stated, the genuine article isn't available for pre-order yet and even if it was, no third party seller would let it go so cheaply already. Disney are probably the most proactive anti-piracy studio around, and I can't find any bootleg BDs for sale on eBay or even from Spain and Italy. Could you post a link to the listing please?

    The only other option I can come up with is you've mistakenly ordered an overpriced copy of the German BD of the 1997 TV remake.
    Please enlighten us!

  94. Brent Reid

    I'm really curious as to what you'll receive. As already stated, the genuine article isn't available for pre-order yet and even if it was, no third party seller would let it go so cheaply already. Disney are probably the most proactive anti-piracy studio around, and I can't find any bootleg BDs for sale on eBay or even from Spain and Italy. Could you post a link to the listing please?

    The only other option I can come up with is you've mistakenly ordered an overpriced copy of the German BD of the 1997 TV remake.
    Please enlighten us!

    I ordered the Disney release ! June 18th release date. I don't buy bootleg's.$25. + shipping. Are you enlightened now ?

  95. Mark-P

    I don't recall a Disney title ever being that low, however 20,000 Leagues has been as low as $7.99

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    When I bought 20,000 Leagues it was $9.99 back in early April, 2018. It dropped to $7.99 about four months later. Also, I've since implemented price restrictions on my digital purchases similar to what Scott has done.

  96. RICK BOND

    I ordered the Disney release ! June 18th release date. I don't buy bootleg's.$25. + shipping. Are you enlightened now ?

    Let me intercede here as I think other people need to stop commenting on Rick's purchase. It's done and it's his business. If you don't want to so the same type of purchase then that's fine, but let's stop harping on this particular HTF member and move on to what you're going to do about this particular Disney title.

  97. Robert Crawford

    Let me intercede here as I think other people need to stop commenting on Rick's purchase. It's done and it's his business. If you don't want to so the same type of purchase then that's fine, but let's stop harping on this particular HTF member.

    Mr. Bond can purchase his discs anywhere he wants! No skin off my or Disney's nose. However, his attitude leaves a lot to be desired. A sense of humor and some graciousness in the face of perceived derogatory remarks often diffuses the situation rather than escalate it.

  98. Thomas T

    Mr. Bond can purchase his discs anywhere he wants! No skin off my or Disney's nose. However, his attitude leaves a lot to be desired. A sense of humor and some graciousness in the face of perceived derogatory remarks often diffuses the situation rather than escalate it.

    There were some other posts that were snarky at best.

  99. Robert Crawford

    There were some other posts that were snarky at best.

    True but I believe Mr. Bond started it with his post about his purchase that wasn’t necessary to begin with. Just my opinion.

  100. There are people who sell items, movies, before they are released.
    Once they are released and the seller receives it they ship them to the eBay buyer.

    This is nothing new.

  101. RICK BOND

    Ordered my copy today of 20,000 Leagues ! $30.00 including shipping ! : ) Private (Ebay) seller. No Disney club ever for me. It's Not Necessary. : )

    Preaching to the choir. Definite E-Bay purchase for me too.

    I will NEVER join the Disney movie club again. It was torture sending back the movies they sent me every month even though I declined to receive them in the first place. The fact you have to cancel by phone, and argue with a rep to get out is more than I can stomach. The good deals were overshadowed by the bad practices.
    Never again.

  102. Robert Crawford

    Come on guys, let's move on please. Let's talk about these two upcoming Blu-ray releases instead of another poster and his purchase.

    Sorry, I just caught up on this thread as I haven't been here in a bit. Didn't realize there was drama attatched to the post.

  103. I remember when 20,000 Leagues was shown on NBC as a Saturday night movie years ago and Kirk Douglas went ballistic because they cut out “A Whale Of A Tale” song.

    As for as Castaways, I really enjoyed that movie, but found the last 15 or 20 minutes to be a let down after going through the dictionary of disasters.

  104. Bryan^H

    The fact you have to cancel by phone, and argue with a rep to get out is more than I can stomach. The good deals were overshadowed by the bad practices.
    Never again.

    This isn't entirely true or esp in the last couple years — I've cancelled by phone, email, and chat. Actually the latter was by far the easiest since I've lost the email address. Open chat (usually 10-8pm ET weekdays) "i want to cancel my current account, I'm planning to rejoin soon with a better Promotion code. Thanks" The middle part doesn't even need to be true, but it should eliminate any of the discussion :Why are you leaving, can I get you to stay somehow, etc. In and out in less than 5 minutes every time I've done it –I always save the transcript and Cancel email just to be safe for a couple months

    I've never understood why certain accounts seem to get hit with the unwanted/declined FT repeatedly. I know it happened to Ron since he reported the same issue and I've heard it from a a few others, but 98+% of folks never get a single unordered item. If Ron rejoins is a couple months I'll be really interested to see if it starts again and it's something with the account/address and not just some random account issue. In 10 years I've gotten a single item I know I declined and once with I think I did though may not have — they did give me a prepaid label to return it since I attached my decline email with the post. Returned item and refund within 2 weeks but aggravating even once. Most other long time members have a similar record, but there is the weird recurring complaint from at least a dozen people I consider reliable and not the normal random Reddit/Facebook poster who usually and obviously wasn't declining their feature.

  105. David Norman

    This isn't entirely true or esp in the last couple years — I've cancelled by phone, email, and chat. Actually the latter was by far the easiest since I've lost the email address. Open chat (usually 10-8pm ET weekdays) "i want to cancel my current account, I'm planning to rejoin soon with a better Promotion code. Thanks" The middle part doesn't even need to be true, but it should eliminate any of the discussion :Why are you leaving, can I get you to stay somehow, etc. In and out in less than 5 minutes every time I've done it –I always save the transcript and Cancel email just to be safe for a couple months

    I've never understood why certain accounts seem to get hit with the unwanted/declined FT repeatedly. I know it happened to Ron since he reported the same issue and I've heard it from a a few others, but 98+% of folks never get a single unordered item. If Ron rejoins is a couple months I'll be really interested to see if it starts again and it's something with the account/address and not just some random account issue. In 10 years I've gotten a single item I know I declined and once with I think I did though may not have — they did give me a prepaid label to return it since I attached my decline email with the post. Returned item and refund within 2 weeks but aggravating even once. Most other long time members have a similar record, but there is the weird recurring complaint from at least a dozen people I consider reliable and not the normal random Reddit/Facebook poster who usually and obviously wasn't declining their feature.

    I couldn't find any way to cancel other than by phone when I searched the site. Yes, E-mail or chat would be much easier.

    The 2 movies I declined certainly arrived unwanted. I did everything right, and declined the same day I got the notice. This isn't an issue with the customers as I also know someone personally that it happened to.
    There is poor service on the other end, at least for me.
    I also didn't mention the time I got an entirely different title (substitute title?) than what I ordered because my wanted purchase was out of stock. I ended up paying for it and keeping it because I just did not have the time to send it back over the busy Christmas season. That was terrible.

  106. Bryan^H

    I couldn't find any way to cancel other than by phone when I searched the site. Yes, E-mail or chat would be much easier.

    The 2 movies I declined certainly arrived unwanted. I did everything right, and declined the same day I got the notice. This isn't an issue with the customers as I also know someone personally that it happened to.
    There is poor service on the other end, at least for me.
    I also didn't mention the time I got an entirely different title (substitute title?) than what I ordered because my wanted purchase was out of stock. I ended up paying for it and keeping it because I just did not have the time to send it back over the busy Christmas season. That was terrible.

    Certainly has happened to enough people repeatedly that it has to be some sort of computer issue on their side that luckily seems to affect only a small number of people not attaching the decline notation to the account properly. Once for a random customer is a fluke, but hearing a similar/same story of repeat mailings to the same person a couple times a year for what seems like forever just has to indicate something there's something wonky in their system.

    The most common problems I've seen (on the DMC and customer side) are during the 2 'extra' cycles where for 4 weeks twice a year there are two simultaneous FT among 3 offers — I think the system gets confused which offer your declining and the page doesn't show the second FT properly.

    The chat feature is only a couple years old and has replaced the majority of my phone contact, the email address is there but it's difficult to find (usually I just get it from the Bluray.com FAQ) and it's even changed a couple times since the last time I did it that way

  107. David Norman

    I've never understood why certain accounts seem to get hit with the unwanted/declined FT repeatedly.

    It seems to happen to me about once or twice a year – in fact, it just happened with the animated "Jungle Book" last month. I checked and I have the email decline confirmation. I chatted with DMC and they agreed to send me a prepaid label so that I didn't have to open up the package, and I just slapped it on and dropped it back in the mail. It's annoying, but they've done a reasonably good job of making the return portion as hassle free as possible. I think that's probably why an option for not automatic shipments would be my most preferred club improvement – not because I have a problem hitting the decline button once a month, but because I think it would reduce the possibility of getting previously-declined items.

  108. I, for one, don't understand the negativity toward the Disney Movie Club. Each month I get an e-mail reminder about the month's offering and I simply decline and that's that! I've never had a selection sent to me that I didn't want. I do sympathize with those who live in countries where DMC does not ship. It is what it is and I (and I assume everybody else) knew what they were getting into.

  109. Thomas T

    I, for one, don't understand the negativity toward the Disney Movie Club. Each month I get an e-mail reminder about the month's offering and I simply decline and that's that! I've never had a selection sent to me that I didn't want.

    Some people have problematic experiences with the DMC, hence the negativity. It's not that hard to understand. 🙂 Fortunately this only seems to affect a small number of customers.

  110. Thomas T

    It is what it is and I (and I assume everybody else) knew what they were getting into.

    Yes, a club membership that make mistakes on their end. Which should not be an issue. But it is.

  111. Thomas T

    Each month I get an e-mail reminder about the month's offering and I simply decline and that's that! I've never had a selection sent to me that I didn't want.

    Me too. Since August 2015. Click link in the DMC Featured Selection e-mail>click Featured Selection>click Decline. Then I get a confirmation e-mail. Are the people who are having trouble not getting the Featured Selection e-mails? Perhaps they're going into spam traps?

  112. dpippel

    Some people have problematic experiences with the DMC, hence the negativity. It's not that hard to understand. 🙂 Fortunately this only seems to affect a small number of customers.

    Bryan^H

    Yes, a club membership that make mistakes on their end. Which should not be an issue. But it is.

    Well, I guess I'm just one lucky guy then! 🙂

  113. Thomas T

    I, for one, don't understand the negativity toward the Disney Movie Club. Each month I get an e-mail reminder about the month's offering and I simply decline and that's that! I've never had a selection sent to me that I didn't want. I do sympathize with those who live in countries where DMC does not ship. It is what it is and I (and I assume everybody else) knew what they were getting into.

    Agreed. What amazes me is that they'll ship without payment. One time I forgot to respond to my featured selection email (yes, taking full responsibility here) and the only cc DMC had on file had an outdated expiration date. They shipped anyway with an invoice enclosed. They did take it back and paid for shipping.

  114. Paul Penna

    Me too. Since August 2015. Click link in the DMC Featured Selection e-mail>At DMC site click Featured Selection>click Decline. Then I get a confirmation e-mail. Are the people who are having trouble not getting the Featured Selection e-mails? Perhaps they're going into spam traps?

    Some people are declining, getting confirmation emails, and then receiving the monthly selection in the mail anyway.

  115. It is one of the more common issues to be sure, but the repeat issues with the same person getting hit is the more baffling part to me.
    Many people seem to never have the problem, others seem to get it more frequently.

    There was apparently some significant issue with the recent Jungle Book FT since I've read a substantial number posts with that one including a few long time members who have never had it happen before. Most reports I read tend to randomly happen through the year, but there was a distinct and obvious spike with Jungle Book. They've been updating the site or down for maintenance several times in the middle of the night over the last 8-12 weeks so I wonder if they did something or their server was having problems

    There are 2 times a year where DMC has extra FT cycles — mid March and Mid Oct usually which they call Seasonal Cycle which means for 4 weeks twice a year there are simultaneous FT. I bet 80-90% of the issues with unwanted mailings happens involving those overlaps — I've don't remember a spike like the JB ever, but there are times of the year I do expect to read more issues

    Jungle Book was the 3rd of that bookend in March on top of whatever else was going on

    26-Feb- March 25 Little Mermaid 4K + The Little Mermaid II/III pack
    12-Mar- April 9 Mary Poppins Returns 4K Ultra HD + Blu-ray + Digital Code
    26-Mar – April 22 The Jungle Book Blu-ray + DVD + Film Frame Replica

  116. David Norman

    ….
    26-Feb- March 25 Little Mermaid 4K + The Little Mermaid II/III pack….

    As a new member, I've been thinking about what movies to maybe get in 4k. The review of The Little Mermaid in 4K at blu-ray.com is very good:

    "Disney's previously released 1080p Blu-ray from 2013 was well received for its 2D image quality. The studio has improved upon a very good thing with this 2160p/HDR UHD presentation that does not necessarily see a major increase in sharpness to the original animation but does yield a substantial improvement to color depth and tonal solidification. The HDR color enhancement offers a strikingly rich palette, much more fruitful and full than the previous Blu-ray (and even the remastered Blu-ray), which in direct comparison appears much lighter, lacking the color nuance, impactful depth, and striking contrasting balances in play. Whether in dense and murky underwater areas or awash in bright sunlight up on the surface, the UHD picture reveals a nearly breathtaking color fortification that sets the tones not apart from the previous release — this is not a revisionist color grading — but rather brings out the best in every critical and minor shade in the film."

    Does anyone own Mermaid in 4k? And if so would you be willing to add your 2 cents?

  117. Bryan^H

    I couldn't find any way to cancel other than by phone when I searched the site. Yes, E-mail or chat would be much easier.

    The 2 movies I declined certainly arrived unwanted. I did everything right, and declined the same day I got the notice. This isn't an issue with the customers as I also know someone personally that it happened to.
    There is poor service on the other end, at least for me.
    I also didn't mention the time I got an entirely different title (substitute title?) than what I ordered because my wanted purchase was out of stock. I ended up paying for it and keeping it because I just did not have the time to send it back over the busy Christmas season. That was terrible.

    I received a wrong title once. They reshipoed the correct one and told me to keep the wrong one free. Just FYI.

  118. If you have evidence that you've declined the FT and it was confirmed, and they send it to you anyway, I'd consider it a free gift. If they try and charge your credit card, I'd dispute it.

    A business cannot simply ship you items you don't want and charge you.

  119. benbess


    As a new member, I've been thinking about what movies to maybe get in 4k. The review of The Little Mermaid in 4K at blu-ray.com is very good:

    Does anyone own Mermaid in 4k? And if so would you be willing to add your 2 cents?

    My first impressions were quite impressive. A substantial improvement over the BD – given the original source/production differences, not a real surprise that that TLM fared better in 4K than Lion King dis

  120. benbess


    As a new member, I've been thinking about what movies to maybe get in 4k. The review of The Little Mermaid in 4K at blu-ray.com is very good:

    Does anyone own Mermaid in 4k? And if so would you be willing to add your 2 cents?

    My first impressions were quite impressive. A substantial improvement over the BD – given the original source/production differences, not a real surprise that that TLM fared better in 4K than Lion King dis

  121. Malcolm R

    If you have evidence that you've declined the FT and it was confirmed, and they send it to you anyway, I'd consider it a free gift. If they try and charge your credit card, I'd dispute it.

    A business cannot simply ship you items you don't want and charge you.

    In general, I don't disagree, but it didn't seem worth it for me. They have my credit card on file, and when the mistaken order was processed, it was charged. Sure, I could try to fight the charge through my credit card company, but it doesn't seem worth going scorched earth like that. I figure if I start disputing with the credit card company, that they'll back me up, but that DMC might also decide to cancel my account for that. It only took about 90 seconds out of my day to engage with DMC's online chat support to get a mailing label sent out, and then I just dropped it in the box on the way to work.

    For me, keeping my DMC account active and in good order is my priority – I want to have it so that when something like 20,000 Leagues is announced, I can just go ahead and order that title without having to rejoin or whatnot.

    Now, if they were to send me unwanted shipments more than once in a blue moon, my patience might dwindle and I might feel differently. But for now, I just accept it as the cost of doing business – especially since it doesn't cost me anything in the end.

    But I would say, if DMC made an announcement one day, "We're no longer doing exclusive releases, we only sell what's in stores," I'd probably cancel immediately. I'm a member solely for their exclusives.

  122. Josh Steinberg

    But I would say, if DMC made an announcement one day, "We're no longer doing exclusive releases, we only sell what's in stores," I'd probably cancel immediately. I'm a member solely for their exclusives.

    That's likely what keeps their club in business. I think all similar clubs have folded over the years once online shopping became a thing and you could buy most anything anywhere.

    When I was young, I was a member of the BMG Music Service and the Columbia House Laserdisc Club. 🙂 Growing up in a rural area, it was pretty much the only way to get a decent selection of titles for music, or to buy laserdiscs at all without driving 50 miles or more. My, how times have changed.

  123. Interesting, reading of all the experiences with the Disney Movie Club in this and other threads. As ever, whether the service is good or bad, for many of us it isn't an option. I'm in the UK but own a handful of DMC BD exclusives bought via third party sellers, though I've never paid more than £12 for each. Eventually I'll do the same for this one, though at present there are no current or completed listings on eBay. So for now, no: I'm not enlightened. 🙂

  124. I can’t see any mention of these titles anywhere on the Disney Movie Club website. I also asked them and they said they have no plans to release these two titles at the moment.

  125. warnerbro

    I can't see any mention of these titles anywhere on the Disney Movie Club website. I also asked them and they said they have no plans to release these two titles at the moment.

    I don’t want to seem mean but did you read any of the last few pages discussing this?

    It’s been mentioned that they won’t show up until they are available to order.

  126. warnerbro

    I can't see any mention of these titles anywhere on the Disney Movie Club website. I also asked them and they said they have no plans to release these two titles at the moment.

    TonyD

    I don’t want to seem mean but did you read any of the last few pages discussing this?

    It’s been mentioned that they won’t show up until they are available to order.

    This is the truth about the website — the true exclusives will not be listed until the day of release on the member site and not for approx 60+ days on the enrollment site probably.

    Sometimes CSR will give a little heads up on upcoming titles, but they are limited in giving out details — sometimes a month or more, sometimes a few days

    Whether DMC reps think they are coming or not, Disney has put them up in the COMING SOON section of Disney Movie Rewards (DMR/Earn Points/At Home/Scroll to bottom of page 1 — and that's usually been gold on the upcoming titles. They don't list dates, but they've always listed them by expected release date so these are slotted between Captain Marvel and Cinderella — I guess in theory that should mean release could be 6/11-6/25. As a pretty hard rule, exclusives have always appeared for sale on DMC new cycle dates which is 6/18

  127. David Norman

    Disney Movie Club – 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea (1954) Blu-ray

    Rather than put this in the exclusive thread I think this deserves it's own thread. DMR Coming soon section now showing 2 titles that surely nobody can complain too much about — though I know better.

    Release Date is TBA, but most likely possible date 6/18 given that it's slotted ahead of Cinderella Signature release

    Details are non existent, but I wouldn't expect a comprehensive release with a lot of extras (or any).

    Let the complaints begin

    Looking to get them.

    David Norman

    Disney Movie Club – 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea (1954) Blu-ray

    Rather than put this in the exclusive thread I think this deserves it's own thread. DMR Coming soon section now showing 2 titles that surely nobody can complain too much about — though I know better.

    Release Date is TBA, but most likely possible date 6/18 given that it's slotted ahead of Cinderella Signature release

    Details are non existent, but I wouldn't expect a comprehensive release with a lot of extras (or any).

    Let the complaints begin

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    Disney Movie Club – In Search of the Castaways (1962) Blu-ray

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    Looking to get them all.

  128. I joined the Movie Rewards and now I see where they list these two. When you click on them it takes you back to the home page of the regular Disney Movie Club home page. I did notice on 20,000 Leagues Under The Sea it does say "anniversary edition." Does that mean there will be extras?

  129. warnerbro

    I joined the Movie Rewards and now I see where they list these two. When you click on them it takes you back to the home page of the regular Disney Movie Club home page. I did notice on 20,000 Leagues Under The Sea it does say "anniversary edition." Does that mean there will be extras?

    Extremely unlikely

    Over half the exclusives are an anniversary of some sort (in the most liberal of definitions sometimes and virtually none have extras. The cheap 2003 DVD set works nicely as a combo though

  130. warnerbro

    I joined the Movie Rewards and now I see where they list these two. When you click on them it takes you back to the home page of the regular Disney Movie Club home page. I did notice on 20,000 Leagues Under The Sea it does say "anniversary edition." Does that mean there will be extras?

    NO, Treasure Island (1950) says the same thing.

  131. I've had the HD streaming version for a while and think it looks just fine. It isn't pristine, but it looks substantially better than the DVD. I agree that picking up the DVD as a companion is a must because it was one of the films in the short-lived, but very-well-made Vault Collection which had substantial supplements that were actually of value to film buffs. The "Making-of" documentary on the supplement disc is feature-length and a must-see for fans of the film. Other "Vault" releases that had great supplements were Swiss Family Robinson, The Love Bug, Pollyanna, Old Yeller, and The Parent Trap.

  132. Brian Kidd

    I've had the HD streaming version for a while and think it looks just fine. It isn't pristine, but it looks substantially better than the DVD.

    If you are referring to 20,000 Leagues I have to disagree. The streaming version most certainly IS pristine, in my opinion. The Blu-ray should be identical but with less compression.

  133. Mysto

    Not the Attack of the Teal Monster!!!!!:roll:

    He's big!

    He's bad!

    He makes every movie character look seasick!

    He makes every location look like a war zone!

    He's in your local movie theater and on your streaming service making a cheap mockery of the word "restoration"!

    No color movie, old or new, is safe from his clutches!

    He's…

    THE TEAL MONSTER!

  134. You and me both! I even tried to see if the website would let me place my order early! As of an hour ago, nope! 🙄 Soon though!

    EDIT: As of 11:05 MDT, my order for both 20,000 Leagues Under The Sea and In Search of the Castaways is in! Can't wait to get these classics on blu-ray in a few days!

  135. holtge

    You and me both! I even tried to see if the website would let me place my order early! As of an hour ago, nope! 🙄 Soon though!

    EDIT: As of 11:05 MDT, my order for both 20,000 Leagues Under The Sea and In Search of the Castaways is in! Can't wait to get these classics on blu-ray in a few days!

    Yep, I'm in too.

  136. Mark-P

    Warm up your credit cards, folks the 18th is almost here! I intend to place my order just as soon it goes live.

    holtge

    You and me both! I even tried to see if the website would let me place my order early! As of an hour ago, nope! 🙄 Soon though!

    EDIT: As of 11:05 MDT, my order for both 20,000 Leagues Under The Sea and In Search of the Castaways is in! Can't wait to get these classics on blu-ray in a few days!

    My order is also placed. Woo-hoo!

  137. Randy Korstick

    I really loved that Laserdisc and miss the deluxe treatment movies got on Laserdisc just the gatefold artwork and notes alone.

    I don't miss laserdisc prices, though. I paid around $75 for a movie-only disc of The Empire Strikes Back in 1992.

  138. Ronald Epstein

    Is this available as an introductory selection as of today? I will rejoin the club to get it.

    What is the best promo code you guys are using?

    Ron,

    I think it won't be available as such for 2-3 months.

  139. Ronald Epstein

    Is this available as an introductory selection as of today? I will rejoin the club to get it.

    What is the best promo code you guys are using?

    Exclusives usually are eligible closer to 60 days. The last exclusives ( Goofy Movie and Extremely Goofy) are 57 days now and aren't eligible for enrollment picks yet, but a CSR said it should be within a week — maybe Friday, but I'm guessing Monday afternoon in more likely given their usual pattern

    Post 70 of this thread I think should be the best current Promo codes —
    Basically 61749 ( incl. Moana blanket) and 55218 (w/ Jack-Jack blanket)
    5 for $1 with 3 full priced requirements at reg price $19.95 or more
    Bonus pick 1 11.95 counts as commit #1 so just 2 more over 24 months
    Bonus pick 2 8.95 — not a commitment
    Free Shipping on all orders supposedly forever.

    I can't remember if Sales Tax was being charged by the time you cancelled last, but I think the FS was sort of an apology for having to add Sales Tax to about 30 states now

    Of the states that charge Sales Tax these appear to still be exempt at DMC — NY and FL shocked me honestly
    No sales tax at DMC though that can change at anytime (plus the 5 no Tax states)
    *New York
    *Maryland
    *Virginia
    *West Virginia
    *Florida
    *Missouri
    *Kansas
    *Arkansas
    *Texas
    *Idaho
    *Arizona
    *New Mexico
    *Nevada

  140. Robert Crawford

    Ron,

    I think it won't be available as such for 2-3 months.

    Let me back up here with this question…

    If I RE-JOINED the club today, is the title available to ship? It doesn't have to be part of the intro selection. I just want to order it.

    I am ready to rejoin if the title is available now.

    How much is the title, BTW?

  141. Worth

    I don't miss laserdisc prices, though. I paid around $75 for a movie-only disc of The Empire Strikes Back in 1992.

    Wow I only Paid $90 for the 3 disc box set. Prices were higher for sure than now but I always preordered with a 20% discount. Most Laserdisc were list $29.99, $34.99 and $39.99 only about 15% ranged higher than that. I once had just over 2600 Laserdisc. Down to about 800 now.

  142. Randy Korstick

    Wow I only Paid $90 for the 3 disc box set. Prices were higher for sure than now but I always preordered with a 20% discount. Most Laserdisc were list $29.99, $34.99 and $39.99 only about 15% ranged higher than that. I once had just over 2600 Laserdisc. Down to about 800 now.

    This was in Canada, where there was no manufacturing and distribution system for laserdiscs, so everything was an import. Then factor in the exchange rate. The average price was around $40, with Warner being the cheapest at $30-35 and Fox the most expensive, usually $60-70.

  143. Ronald Epstein

    Let me back up here with this question…

    If I RE-JOINED the club today, is the title available to ship? It doesn't have to be part of the intro selection. I just want to order it.

    I am ready to rejoin if the title is available now.

    How much is the title, BTW?

    Yes.. You could easily order 20000 Leagues (and/or Castaways) at $24.95 ea and they would even count for for your full priced commitment. With the above PROMO CODES, If you have 6 other eligible items to get for the initial picks and be eligible to order 20000 Leagues immediately — if wanted Castaways then order both at 24.95ea+tax and you'd by enrolled and completely done with your commitments pretty much immediately, then eligible for some of the bigger discounts or even to cancel as soon as your items are delivered

    Josh Steinberg

    @David Norman – is DMC due for a 60% off sale anytime soon for VIP members?

    Always hard to say, but probably — : there have been 3 60% monthly offers out of the 8 cycles already this year so you would expect 2 more in the final 7 and the last cycle of the year (cycle 15) is very rare to get a 60%.

    Looking at the last few years — July (cycle 9) or Aug (cycle 10) USUALLY has one and then November (cycle 14) is the most common last cycle a 60%. Even 2017 where they has 60% in cycle 2/3/4/5, the put the last 6-% in cycle 10/August

    Cycle 9 this year starts July 16 and Cycle 10 August 13

  144. Ronald Epstein

    Let me back up here with this question…

    If I RE-JOINED the club today, is the title available to ship? It doesn't have to be part of the intro selection. I just want to order it.

    I am ready to rejoin if the title is available now.

    How much is the title, BTW?

    Yes.. You could easily order 20000 Leagues (and/or Castaways) at $24.95 ea and they would even count for for your full priced commitment. With the above PROMO CODES, If you have 6 other eligible items to get for the initial picks and be eligible to order 20000 Leagues immediately — if wanted Castaways then order both at 24.95ea+tax and you'd by enrolled and completely done with your commitments pretty much immediately, then eligible for some of the bigger discounts or even to cancel as soon as your items are delivered

    Josh Steinberg

    @David Norman – is DMC due for a 60% off sale anytime soon for VIP members?

    Always hard to say, but probably — : there have been 3 60% monthly offers out of the 8 cycles already this year so you would expect 2 more in the final 7 and the last cycle of the year (cycle 15) is very rare to get a 60%.

    Looking at the last few years — July (cycle 9) or Aug (cycle 10) USUALLY has one and then November (cycle 14) is the most common last cycle a 60%. Even 2017 where they has 60% in cycle 2/3/4/5, the put the last 6-% in cycle 10/August

    Cycle 9 this year starts July 16 and Cycle 10 August 13

  145. I am trying to join the club with the above code in post #201

    The page states there is the opportunity to purchase two bonus titles at checkout, but I can only pick five

    EDIT: Okay, I see what happens. You pick your additional titles after final confirmation and submission of membership.

    The choice of bonus titles are limited to about 30. None were interesting to me.

    I joined and then ordered 20,000 Leagues.

  146. I am trying to join the club with the above code in post #201

    The page states there is the opportunity to purchase two bonus titles at checkout, but I can only pick five

    EDIT: Okay, I see what happens. You pick your additional titles after final confirmation and submission of membership.

    The choice of bonus titles are limited to about 30. None were interesting to me.

    I joined and then ordered 20,000 Leagues.

  147. Ronald Epstein

    I am trying to join the club with the above code in post #201

    The page states there is the opportunity to purchase two bonus titles at checkout, but I can only pick five

    EDIT: Okay, I see what happens. You pick your additional titles after final confirmation and submission of membership.

    The choice of bonus titles are limited to about 30. None were interesting to me.

    I joined and then ordered 20,000 Leagues.

    The Bonus Picks are limited to about 45, but not the final word. If you call or chat with them within a few hours they can add (or change) to almost any enrollment eligible title. Many people find the selected Bonus Titles less than stellar, but it's pretty easy to get a choice you want added to your order.

    Otherwise it;s not a huge loss though it adds a 19.95+ requirement instead of something you should be able to get for 11.95

    As soon as you account is live and you can sign in — go to ACCOUNT Profile and there should be a OPEN CHAT button (usually from 11am- Noon to 8-9pm ET. I find it's much easier to use the chat than phone though both work. Just tell them "I just signed up and wasn't able to or allowed to choose my Bonus. Can you help me" Not entirely untrue and works 95% of the time

  148. I wonder if Disney will understand how many new customers they sign up just because of Castaways and Leagues. I certainly hope so and they will figure out the desire for more classic Uncle Walt movies on Blu-Ray.

  149. ahollis

    I wonder if Disney will understand how many new customers they sign up just because of Castaways and Leagues. I certainly hope so and they will figure out the desire for more classic Uncle Walt movies on Blu-Ray.

    Just make sure to tell them via email or chat that specifically triggered you to join

  150. ahollis

    I wonder if Disney will understand how many new customers they sign up just because of Castaways and Leagues. I certainly hope so and they will figure out the desire for more classic Uncle Walt movies on Blu-Ray.

    I sincerely hope that there is a noticeable uptick in orders. Given that physical media is in decline and that the same transfers of these movies have been readily available for rental and purchase digitally for years, I'm a little skeptical that it would be more than a small blip on the radar, but I sincerely hope I'm wrong. As I find myself becoming more interested in availability overall vs. having something in a specific format, the classic Walt Disney stuff is one of those few exceptions where I really would prefer to have an actual physical object in my hands, and I hope that I'm not alone in that.

  151. Josh Steinberg

    I sincerely hope that there is a noticeable uptick in orders. Given that physical media is in decline and that the same transfers of these movies have been readily available for rental and purchase digitally for years, I'm a little skeptical that it would be more than a small blip on the radar, but I sincerely hope I'm wrong. As I find myself becoming more interested in availability overall vs. having something in a specific format, the classic Walt Disney stuff is one of those few exceptions where I really would prefer to have an actual physical object in my hands, and I hope that I'm not alone in that.

    Rest assured you are not. Especially considering that we still don’t have any real indication that the Uncle Walt live action films will be available on Disney+ come Fall.

  152. Kyrsten Brad

    Rest assured you are not. Especially considering that we still don’t have any real indication that the Uncle Walt live action films will be available on Disney+ come Fall.

    I find that hard to believe that those films won't be available on Disney+.

  153. Robert Crawford

    I find that hard to believe that those films won't be available on Disney+.

    Correct!

    In fact, I would not surprised if we are finally seeing this Holy Grail title released to Blu-ray now is because it will be more widely available for HD viewing when Disney+ debuts.

  154. Robert Crawford

    I find that hard to believe that those films won't be available on Disney+.

    Correct!

    In fact, I would not surprised if we are finally seeing this Holy Grail title released to Blu-ray now is because it will be more widely available for HD viewing when Disney+ debuts.

  155. Ronald Epstein

    Correct!

    In fact, I would not surprised if we are finally seeing this Holy Grail title released to Blu-ray now is because it will be more widely available for HD viewing when Disney+ debuts.

    You got that right. They probably think if there is money to be made in disc sales it will be now and not after the launch of the service.

  156. Mark-P

    You got that right. They probably think if there is money to be made in disc sales it will be now and not after the launch of the service.

    Some people might watching the Disney Live Action Classics, but I think Disney's main target with this streaming service is towards Millennials and Gen Zer's as they'll be watching all the new Star Wars/Marvel series and all of the 2000's Disney Channel shows over the Golden Age library. As a Millennial myself, I'm very rare as I prefer the classics over today's current/modern stuff.

  157. RICK BOND

    Was the release date June 18th ? Or has it been changed ? Anyone know any details ?

    Went live June 18 along with In Search of the Castaways. My order dispatched a few minutes ago so hopefully the package will arrive by Monday or Tuesday given the usual turnaround time

    I know a couple people paid for expedited shipping so hopefully tomorrow or Friday some 1st impressions will filter in

  158. I’m just waiting to see if a 60% offer happens anytime soon at DMC cause I have a few things I’ve been waiting to order. One way or another I’ll get this, but since I probably won’t be watching this until later this summer anyway, I’m waiting on that.

    But I’m very excited to hear what you guys have to say when you get your copies.

  159. An information heads up for those who haven't used DMC shipping lately. Somewhere in the last few months DMC changed their shipping from normal media mail or OSM to some sort of special USPS shipping on most packages.

    Anyone who has bought from Hamilton Books likely already knows this pattern, but when you enter the Tracking Number at USPS it will show Shipment Created/Awaiting Pickup. Then the tracking will likely go dead for several days and look like it's just sitting on the counter waiting since it doesn't give you the Package Accepted, Departed in Wisconsin /Accepted at 2nd site in IL/IN/PA, departed, etc. This lack of apparent activity tends to frustrate folks since it looks like nothing is happening. If it's bad enough you might caontac DMC support and ask them to track (or give you the tracking number if it never attaches to your order. Apprarenly DMC has some sort of internal tracking ability that customers don;t get from USPS

    The next update will likely be when it hits your local or regional Distribution Post Office usually the day before it's delivered. Mine usually show up at the Regional in Greensboro or Charlotte about the 4th day after shipment and deliver the next day. For West Coast this seems to be more 5th/6th business day..

    On your Order History, the orange Tracking Button will light up when the tracking number is attached to your order — usually a few hours after teh dispatch email. I've rarely found that button helpful. I usually suggest extracting the tracking number from the Order History page:

    Right click on the order or over the Tracking Button
    Page Source
    CTRL-F ( Cmd + F on a Mac)
    Type trackingid in the search bar/Enter and usually it will show up the line below
    If the tracking number start with 9xxxxxxxx then take that nubmer to USPS tracking site https://tools.usps.com/go/TrackConfirmAction_input
    If it starts with Axxxxxxxxx then that's OSM Worldwide and can be tracked on their site https://www.osmworldwide.com/tracking/

  160. After composing an order and considering the number of classic Disney titles I still want to add, I’ve decided to wait until that 60 day period for including 20KLUTS has elapsed. Then I’ll do the subscription flip one more time.

  161. Probably a stupid question but: Does buying an exclusive (like 20000 Leagues) at full price count toward your commitment? I bought 20000 Leagues, it even shipped today, but my commitment checklist doesn't show it.

  162. Sam Favate

    Probably a stupid question but: Does buying an exclusive (like 20000 Leagues) at full price count toward your commitment? I bought 20000 Leagues, it even shipped today, but my commitment checklist doesn't show it.

    Not a stupid question. It does count from what an HTF member posted previously.

  163. Sam Favate

    Probably a stupid question but: Does buying an exclusive (like 20000 Leagues) at full price count toward your commitment? I bought 20000 Leagues, it even shipped today, but my commitment checklist doesn't show it.

    I find it takes them awhile to update your commitment screen–like several days.

  164. Sam Favate

    Probably a stupid question but: Does buying an exclusive (like 20000 Leagues) at full price count toward your commitment? I bought 20000 Leagues, it even shipped today, but my commitment checklist doesn't show it.

    Yes, though it usually takes 3-4 days after the charge is posted to see your commitment checkmark fill in. I find most of the time, by the time the package arrived you should see it credited on your list

    Pretty much anything that non customer discounted and 19.95+ should count. The only exceptions I can think of are the rare DMC 50% offer like TV set last month — I don't think a $20 set at the special price would count though they have surprised my before

  165. Sam Favate

    Probably a stupid question but: Does buying an exclusive (like 20000 Leagues) at full price count toward your commitment? I bought 20000 Leagues, it even shipped today, but my commitment checklist doesn't show it.

    Sam, Love your Beatles Butcher cover photo ! I have a Stereo & Mono LP Butchers in Mint condition. Beatles Forever : )

  166. Malcolm R

    Makes sense that they'd wait until the order is processed, shipped, and your payment has cleared.

    I'd assume that they don't ship anything until your payment has cleared, so by the time it's in the mail your account should be updated. They're just slow about it.

  167. Bluray.com poster said it had a 5.1 DTS-MA audio track which should be excellent as well.

    The exclusives seem to go back and forth from lossless to lossy audio tracks seemingly somewhat dependent on the original film audio.
    Many of the mono or simple stereo films get lossy 1.0 or 2.0 tracks — I guess some folks can tell the difference in a well done lossy track compared to a lossless, but I can't 95% of the time. Many of the films that had more directional original tracks seem to get DTS-MA

    In Search of the Castaways sounds like it got a lossy 1.0

  168. dpippel

    I'd assume that they don't ship anything until your payment has cleared, so by the time it's in the mail your account should be updated. They're just slow about it.

    My order should arrive this week. However, they ship it without payment, at least in my case. I always get a billing statement along with the discs. I add it to my other (monthly) bills and pay it when I pay rent, insurance, credit cards, gas, electric etc.on the first of the month.

  169. Douglas R

    There's a copy on ebay which has reached $79 with 17 hours still to go!

    Currently it's up to $91! My guess is that you have a couple of bidders who are getting caught up in a bidding frenzy. If you look at the completed auctions search, you'll find that a handful of copies have already traded between $24 and $75. As time goes on, that average will trend lower. Incidentally, some of the initial ebay sales of the blu-ray of A Goofy Movie went for crazy money, but now you can easily get that title for about twenty to thirty dollars.

    As for me, I've already snagged the blu of In Search of the Castaways, but I haven't been able to score 20K Leagues Under the Sea yet, but I know that it's just a matter of time before I will. I'll pay some premium to avoid the DMC nuisance, but I'm not paying crazy money. 😉 Of course, it would be nice if Disney would just sell these titles outside of the DMC (just put them up on the Shop Disney website in the same way that they have already done so with the older DMC "exclusive" DVDs).

  170. A few quotes from imdb….

    • Captain Nemo : Think of it. On the surface there is hunger and fear. Men still exercise unjust laws. They fight, tear one another to pieces. A mere few feet beneath the waves their reign ceases, their evil drowns. Here on the ocean floor is the only independence. Here I am free! Imagine what would happen if they controlled machines such as this submarine boat. Far better that they think there's a monster and hunt me with harpoons.
    • Captain Nemo : Nitrates and phosphate for ammunition. The seeds of war. They're loading a full cargo of death. And when that ship takes it home the world will die a little more. I was once one of those pitiful wretches you see down there. Look at it again, professor, I don't want you to forget what you've seen here today.
    • Captain Nemo : They are the assassins, the dealers in death; I am the avenger!…There is hope for the future. When the world is ready for a new and better life….
  171. Mine came today ! It looks and sounds Excellent ! : ) I added disc 2 form the dvd set. Perfect. I hope Darby O' Gill (1959)and Kidnapped (1960) are coming next or soon. Both are Anniversaries 1959 this year and 1960 next year.

  172. We watched this the other night and THOROUGHLY enjoyed it! Quite a quality presentation, and the film stands the test of time extremely well. James Mason was at the top of his game here. Hard to believe it was made in 1954, four years before I was born. Truly a classic, and I'm very happy to finally have it in HD.

  173. My son and I watched 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea tonight! Marvelous widescreen transfer! Very pleased, what a revelation! I also watched In Search of the Castaways (I'm a big Hayley fan!) and that was a good transfer, but because of the cheap matte work and super-imposed images I have to say it was not as impressive as Leagues but still fun! I could tell Leagues had a much bigger budget and was a lot more adult in it's storytelling.

  174. I am going to be the dissenting opinion here.

    Watched 20,000 Leagues the other day.

    Haven't seen it since I was a teenager. I believed I watched it on VHS.

    As everyone has stated, it looked and sounded great.

    The film clocks in at a little over 2 hours, but it felt more like 3. I found it to be painfully slow.

    I am happy to finally own this on Blu-ray, but unfortunately, I think it will be my last watch.

  175. Has the cost of remastering a film in high definition fallen so low that Disney can recoup its costs just by selling these to Club members? I'm glad to have it too, but wondering about the economics of it.

  176. Sam Favate

    Has the cost of remastering a film in high definition fallen so low that Disney can recoup its costs just by selling these to Club members? I'm glad to have it too, but wondering about the economics of it.

    I suspect this release has a lot more to do with the new streaming service than sales of discs, but it all adds up.

  177. Ronald Epstein

    I am going to be the dissenting opinion here.

    Watched 20,000 Leagues the other day.

    Haven't seen it since I was a teenager. I believed I watched it on VHS.

    As everyone has stated, it looked and sounded great.

    The film clocks in at a little over 2 hours, but it felt more like 3. I found it to be painfully slow.

    I am happy to finally own this on Blu-ray, but unfortunately, I think it will be my last watch.

    You want to sell it?

  178. Mysto

    I suspect this release has a lot more to do with the new streaming service than sales of discs, but it all adds up.

    Streaming is how I will watch it. I'm not supporting this release. The Disney Movie Club is no friend of mine.

  179. Sam Favate

    Has the cost of remastering a film in high definition fallen so low that Disney can recoup its costs just by selling these to Club members? I'm glad to have it too, but wondering about the economics of it.

    I don;t think they remastered this specifically to release to DMC. I suspect all/most of the mastering work either was already done for the Digital copy from before or tweaked for upcoming streaming. Taking that and encoding it for the disc seems to be fairly inexpensive and selling through DMC garners them almost 100% profit other than producing the disc — no sharing with BBY or BN or Amazon.

    Plus gains more than few new DMC members just like what happened with Saludos Amigos, Parent Trap, F Friday, the Honey films. I'm going to guess their direct profit from selling an item on DMC is significantly greater than on wide release. That's actually one of my hopes for the new streaming service is that it pushes Disney to put more of their Archives in Video Ready condition and then releasing a small run of discs is easy and cheap enough that they'll use it to supplement their income since Disc will not be the prime revenue generator

    I don't know how much that entails, but it's not like 20000 Leagues doesn't seem to be the type film that's going to sell multi hundred thousand units on a wide release

  180. Ronald Epstein

    I am going to be the dissenting opinion here.

    Watched 20,000 Leagues the other day.
    Haven't seen it since I was a teenager. I believed I watched it on VHS.
    As everyone has stated, it looked and sounded great.
    The film clocks in at a little over 2 hours, but it felt more like 3. I found it to be painfully slow.
    I am happy to finally own this on Blu-ray, but unfortunately, I think it will be my last watch.

    Maybe you had to be 8 years old when you first saw it!

    As an adult, it still holds its magic for me, and I can appreciate its mood, visuals and performances, especially James Mason's mesmerizing portrayal of Nemo, a surprisingly complex characterization for Disney film.

  181. Ronald Epstein

    I am going to be the dissenting opinion here.

    Watched 20,000 Leagues the other day.
    Haven't seen it since I was a teenager. I believed I watched it on VHS.
    As everyone has stated, it looked and sounded great.
    The film clocks in at a little over 2 hours, but it felt more like 3. I found it to be painfully slow.
    I am happy to finally own this on Blu-ray, but unfortunately, I think it will be my last watch.

    Maybe you had to be 8 years old when you first saw it!

    As an adult, it still holds its magic for me, and I can appreciate its mood, visuals and performances, especially James Mason's mesmerizing portrayal of Nemo, a surprisingly complex characterization for Disney film.

  182. Ronald Epstein

    I am going to be the dissenting opinion here.

    Watched 20,000 Leagues the other day.
    Haven't seen it since I was a teenager. I believed I watched it on VHS.
    As everyone has stated, it looked and sounded great.
    The film clocks in at a little over 2 hours, but it felt more like 3. I found it to be painfully slow.
    I am happy to finally own this on Blu-ray, but unfortunately, I think it will be my last watch.

    Maybe you had to be 8 years old when you first saw it!

    As an adult, it still holds its magic for me, and I can appreciate its mood, visuals and performances, especially James Mason's mesmerizing portrayal of Nemo, a surprisingly complex characterization for Disney film.

  183. I saw the DCP of 20,000 Leagues a few years back. It's the same master, obviously, and it looked great on the big screen. This means that Disney had already done work on the film for an eventual release on whatever format they might have chosen at some future date.

  184. holtge

    You and me both! I even tried to see if the website would let me place my order early! As of an hour ago, nope! 🙄 Soon though!

    EDIT: As of 11:05pm MDT 6/17/19, my order for both 20,000 Leagues Under The Sea and In Search of the Castaways is in! Can't wait to get these classics on blu-ray in a few days!

    Well, it took almost two weeks, but my order FINALLY arrived in the mail today. I have no idea why it took so long to get to me—most of my DMC orders arrive in less than a week! In any case, I'm finally able to watch these fantastic films on blu-ray!

    One question I do have for someone who might know though. It seems as if all Disney has done with the HD transfer of In Search of the Castaways is to trim the top and bottom of the original 1.33:1 aspect ratio so that now it fits a 1.66:1. I watched the DVD release while waiting for the mail to arrive today and it really appears to be cut off at the top and bottom of what was the original picture. Am I correct? Is that what has happened here? :wacko:

  185. holtge

    One question I do have for someone who might know though. It seems as if all Disney has done with the HD transfer of In Search of the Castaways is to trim the top and bottom of the original 1.33:1 aspect ratio so that now it fits a 1.66:1. I watched the DVD release while waiting for the mail to arrive today and it really appears to be cut off at the top and bottom of what was the original picture. Am I correct? Is that what has happened here? :wacko:

    For non-anamorphic widescreen films (those with aspect ratios of around 1.66:1 to 2:1) shot on film, it's pretty much the norm that "fullscreen" (1.33:1) versions will show more image at the top and bottom, and sometimes less image on the sides, than the widescreen image intended for theatrical projection. The first time you experience this, by comparing the fullscreen and widescreen versions, it can be somewhat jarring or disconcerting, but you can have confidence that what you're seeing in the widescreen version on home video is at least as much of the image that was shown in movie theaters during original release.

  186. KMR

    For non-anamorphic widescreen films (those with aspect ratios of around 1.66:1 to 2:1) shot on film, it's pretty much the norm that "fullscreen" (1.33:1) versions will show more image at the top and bottom, and sometimes less image on the sides, than the widescreen image intended for theatrical projection. The first time you experience this, by comparing the fullscreen and widescreen versions, it can be somewhat jarring or disconcerting, but you can have confidence that what you're seeing in the widescreen version on home video is at least as much of the image that was shown in movie theaters during original release.

    I well remember when Criterion released The Princess Bride in wide screen on laser disc how someone complained that Criterion was giving us "fake" wide screen by cutting the top and the bottom thus losing information and we weren't seeing the whole movie! It was in the early days of wide screen films on laser disc (of which Criterion was pretty much a pioneer) and most of the general public didn't realize that non scope films were shot full frame and masked for wide screen in projection for theatres.

  187. My ranked list of favorite movies from 1954 as of today….

    Rear Window
    20,000 Leagues Under the Sea
    White Christmas
    Dial M for Murder
    A Star Is Born
    The Egyptian
    Seven Samurai

    Garden of Evil
    The Caine Mutiny
    Broken Lance
    Sabrina
    Vera Cruz
    The Bridges at Toko-Ri
    Knock on Wood

    Them!
    Barefoot Contessa
    Brigadoon/Deep in My Heart (tie)
    Johnny Guitar
    The Glenn Miller Story
    Salt of the Earth
    Seven Brides for Seven Brothers/There’s No Business Like Show Business (tie)
    Demetrius and the Gladiators
    Creature from the Black Lagoon

  188. benbess

    My ranked list of favorite movies from 1954 as of today….

    Rear Window
    20,000 Leagues Under the Sea
    White Christmas
    Dial M for Murder
    A Star Is Born
    The Egyptian
    Seven Samurai

    Garden of Evil
    The Caine Mutiny
    Broken Lance
    Sabrina
    Vera Cruz
    The Bridges at Toko-Ri
    Knock on Wood

    Them!
    Barefoot Contessa
    Brigadoon/Deep in My Heart (tie)
    Johnny Guitar
    The Glenn Miller Story
    Salt of the Earth
    Seven Brides for Seven Brothers/There’s No Business Like Show Business (tie)
    Demetrius and the Gladiators
    Creature from the Black Lagoon

    I have 9 of those titles in my collection. And also ..On the Waterfront, Suddenly, Prince Valiant, and Bad Day at Black Rock

  189. holtge

    Well, it took almost two weeks, but my order FINALLY arrived in the mail today. I have no idea why it took so long to get to me—most of my DMC orders arrive in less than a week! In any case, I'm finally able to watch these fantastic films on blu-ray!

    Still waiting on mine…usually a week and a half from order date to delivery date. I'm expecting a package either today or tomorrow. It'll make a good double feature for July 4th.

  190. My sympathies man. No idea why it's taking so long to get these orders out to us this time around. Maybe lots of people placing orders? Slowing down delivery time in general? Who knows. At any rate, sure hope you get yours soon!

  191. It seems most of the orders placed mid-day Tuesday through Sunday were delayed in dispatch likely from having more orders than they received in teh 1st Shipped Batch (according to DMC CSR). My first order at 2am ET shipped the Wed 19th, but the order I placed 11pm didn't ship until the next Monday (24th). Transit time after shipping was almost exactly a week to the SE from WI for both orders — west coast orders seem to take and extra 24-48 hrs

  192. The funny thing, David, is I tried your trick for finding a tracking number and it wouldn't work for either this order or the one from earlier in June (which has been received). I'm not at all complaining or upset by it; I know the basic time frame I should expect for DMC orders. If there's nothing on the doorstep by Friday, then I'll start getting worried.

  193. Jason_V

    The funny thing, David, is I tried your trick for finding a tracking number and it wouldn't work for either this order or the one from earlier in June (which has been received). I'm not at all complaining or upset by it; I know the basic time frame I should expect for DMC orders. If there's nothing on the doorstep by Friday, then I'll start getting worried.

    I wish I could see your screen because it should work almost every time — I wonder if there are some areas where the tracking number generates differently

    Let me try a different method — should work for Windows PC (not sure if it works on mobile):
    Go to the order page and click Track Order Button (probably don't have to do this, but if you've got several orders it narrows the search)
    CTRL+U opens page source (not Inspect Page)
    CTRL+F should open search box
    Type trackingid in the box — that should go to any active tracking numbers either OSM or USPS. (You can also scroll through all the code and manually look for the tracking number — usually mine is around line 2500-3000)

    Worst case — call or chat with DMC and they should be able to give you the tracking number.

  194. Jason_V

    Yeah, I'm doing the chat now. There is no trackingid in the Page Source info. It's strange.

    Thank you David!

    Not the first time I've seen it happen, but it's pretty rare. If it happens regularly that certainly seems to mean there is some local/regional differences. DMC is nothing if not YMMV it seems

  195. Jason_V

    Yeah, I'm doing the chat now. There is no trackingid in the Page Source info. It's strange.

    Thank you David!

    The same thing happened to me recently, not with Disney but WB archive. Got the shipping notice. Next day clicked on the tracking; blank screen. It said come back later. I tried again the next day. Same issue. The third day I tried again. Still no tracking information. I was going to email WB, but first I went downstairs to get the mail, and the shipment was there. So I wouldn't worry all that much. Give it three or four days anyway. Probably a system glitch.

  196. lark144

    The same thing happened to me recently, not with Disney but WB archive. Got the shipping notice. Next day clicked on the tracking; blank screen. It said come back later. I tried again the next day. Same issue. The third day I tried again. Still no tracking information. I was going to email WB, but first I went downstairs to get the mail, and the shipment was there. So I wouldn't worry all that much. Give it three or four days anyway. Probably a system glitch.

    The last couple times I've ordered from WB, they sent a shipment email with a DHL link, but when i looked at the tracking number it wasn't right for DHL. Sure enough when i plugged it into UPSMI the tracking popped up fine.

  197. I did chat with the cast member yesterday morning to get the tracking number (got it) and to mention I didn't have the tracking available for any order in my account history. He was going to have tech look into it.

    And, wouldn't ya know, I had a big package sitting on the door waiting for me last night. 20,000 Leagues, Castaways, the two Goofy movies, an Ursula pin and a Little Mermaid bag.

  198. lark144

    The same thing happened to me recently, not with Disney but WB archive. Got the shipping notice. Next day clicked on the tracking; blank screen. It said come back later. I tried again the next day. Same issue. The third day I tried again. Still no tracking information. I was going to email WB, but first I went downstairs to get the mail, and the shipment was there. So I wouldn't worry all that much. Give it three or four days anyway. Probably a system glitch.

    Exactly the same thing happened with me at DMC. I am a VIP member and ordered 2 copies of Leagues and 1 of Honey…Blew Up Kid (1 24.95 and 2 discounted to 12.95 w no tax-FL and free ship…total $49.91) on 6/19. Same tracking as you had on WB. Three days later they arrived at my door by separate delivery. Needless to say I was pleased with both delivery and discs!

  199. Question…

    Did 20,000 Leagues come with a slipcover?

    Some of my other Disney intro titles did. Thought this did too, but now that I have searched all over my home and found nothing, I am beginning to think it didn't.

  200. Ronald Epstein

    Question…

    Did 20,000 Leagues come with a slipcover?

    Some of my other Disney intro titles did. Thought this did too, but now that I have searched all over my home and found nothing, I am beginning to think it didn't.

    Most of the DMC Blu-ray exclusives that I have received did not include a slipcover, and the 20,000 Leagues BD I received also did not include a slipcover. The Love Bug and Old Yeller arrived with slipcovers but most of the recent ones have not.

  201. Timothy E

    Most of the DMC Blu-ray exclusives that I have received did not include a slipcover, and the 20,000 Leagues BD I received also did not include a slipcover. The Love Bug and Old Yeller arrived with slipcovers but most of the recent ones have not.

    Tim,

    Thank you. That answers that. Glad you brought up LOVE BUG. That was one of the titles I got and it had a slipcover so that's why I automatically presumed…

  202. Ronald Epstein

    Question…

    Did 20,000 Leagues come with a slipcover?

    Some of my other Disney intro titles did. Thought this did too, but now that I have searched all over my home and found nothing, I am beginning to think it didn't.

    Only the 1st 6 true Exclusives ever had a slip cover — Computer Wore Tennis Shoes, Apple Dumpling, Love Bug 1 and 2, Pollyanna and Old Yeller – most of the time they still have then.

  203. I watched the Blu-ray of In Search of the Castaways tonight. I hadn't seen this movie in several decades. I must have watched it on TV at least once since I saw it at the theater all those years ago, but that's probably been it. Until I got the Blu, I had never owned it on any home media format.

    It's a beautiful looking Blu-ray with just a bit of crushed black levels in one of the dark scenes (maybe with the volcano eruption), but really strong color throughout. Disney did a very good job bringing this to high definition. Sadly, the audio was, like so many of these DMC Blu-ray exclusives, lossy Dolby Digital mono with not much bass in the mix.

  204. Hi gang, I just received my copy. Looks awesome. My question is. It is only playing in LPCM 48 two channels.. when I display the settings on the TV it shows DTS-HD Master Audio 5.1 48kHz..

    Is that notmal? It is only paying on the front left/right. The receiver is set to auto audio detect. The Disney splash logo was in 5.1 but the film is not. Thoughts?

  205. cb1

    Hi gang, I just received my copy. Looks awesome. My question is. It is only playing in LPCM 48 two channels.. when I display the settings on the TV it shows DTS-HD Master Audio 5.1 48kHz..

    Is that notmal? It is only paying on the front left/right. The receiver is set to auto audio detect. The Disney splash logo was in 5.1 but the film is not. Thoughts?

    I'm going to say something isn't right. It sounds like your player or receiver isn't auto-detecting correctly. I'm getting quite nice sound through the front 3 speakers and certain scenes the backs are fairly active

  206. David Norman

    I'm going to say something isn't right. It sounds like your player or receiver isn't auto-detecting correctly. I'm getting quite nice sound through the front 3 speakers and certain scenes the backs are fairly active

    ok, so I tried it again, but I fired up the receiver at the menu, then the 5.1 kicked in. Sounds awesome! I had already had the receiver on the first time with the radio playing and when I switched to BD/DVD for some reason it didn't detect the sound correctly, re-booting the receiver fixed it. strange. LOL

  207. Josh Steinberg

    They stopped doing them years ago.

    Makes sense. They are an incredible waste of cardboard, unless they have a front featuring a lenticular 3D image. I can sort of see using them for store copies, as it is yet one more step a potential shoplifter must thwart. But for mail-only copies…what's they point?

  208. That's OK, I had Pure Direct selected initially and was only getting sound from the center speaker and it took me 5-10 minutes trying to figure out what was wrong.

    I'm still fairly new to my Marantz and haven't gotten used to the various options yet.

  209. Hey guys, I looked into joining the Disney Movie Club, but the more I looked, the less it made sense for me. So I just decided to wait a bit and see how you guys do with the 20,000 Leagues disc, the main title I really wanted.

    I also kept an eye on eBay. There has been and continues to be many brand new sealed copies for sale. I was noticing the prices starting to go down, and I found a couple of auctions I tried, but jump out of. I wasn’t going over $50.00. I found a sealed one with a Buy It Now price under $40, so I went for it. I think that’s probably double what the club price is. I was OK with that because I didn’t have to deal with the club and I got the main title I really wanted and waited so long for. So we will see how this works out, and I hope it’s the real deal.

  210. The disc is $24.95 and I decided while shopping on Ebay that I wouldn't pay over $30, so I'm still waiting for a decent price to show up. Right now, it's a hot title, and they're price gouging. I have it on DVD and laserdisc if I get an overwhelming yen for it before Disney+ comes on-line. It was also $17.99 on iTunes the last time I checked. So cheaper options for me are out there.

  211. Nelson Au

    Hey guys, I looked into joining the Disney Movie Club, but the more I looked, the less it made sense for me. So I just decided to wait a bit and see how you guys do with the 20,000 Leagues disc, the main title I really wanted.

    I also kept an eye on eBay. There has been and continues to be many brand new sealed copies for sale. I was noticing the prices starting to go down, and I found a couple of auctions I tried, but jump out of. I wasn’t going over $50.00. I found a sealed one with a Buy It Now price under $40, so I went for it. I think that’s probably double what the club price is. I was OK with that because I didn’t have to deal with the club and I got the main title I really wanted and waited so long for. So we will see how this works out, and I hope it’s the real deal.

    Nelson, I can't sit here and speculate as to why someone would not think the Disney Movie Club is a good deal. There could be all kinds of reasons from costs to title selection to just the overall irritability of having to respond to featured titles every month.

    I do think you definitely get your money's worth as long as there are titles you want. To get 4 or 5 Blu-ray titles for a buck is fantastic value even if you have to pay full price on titles to fulfill your agreement.

  212. Ron, for sure the club pricing is a good deal. I’m just not interested in joining and trying to pick titles I may or may not really want to just fulfill the numbers of titles they require you to select. I probably could have got many I wanted. In the end, I didn’t want to be in their system. I’m making assumptions they hound you to rejoin if you decide to leave the club. All the current and upcoming titles so far as I can tell I can buy locally. For sure, I pay more. So I’m not being fiscally responsible, but I’m willing to pay a little more to stay out of the club. In the end, I just didn’t want to join. 😉

    Matt, agreed there is gouging for sure on eBay on this title. I guess I was ok to let the seller have a little extra profit for their efforts. But I had a limit to how high. I also don’t know how many copies will be pressed of these club exclusives. It’s probably going to be a while before this title goes out of print.

  213. Nelson Au

    I’m making assumptions they hound you to rejoin if you decide to leave the club.

    They don't.

    When I've canceled in the past, it's been as close to "no questions asked" as possible, and I've never noticed an uptick in mailings from them trying to get me back when I wasn't an active member.

  214. Nelson Au

    I guess I was ok to let the seller have a little extra profit for their efforts. But I had a limit to how high. I also don’t know how many copies will be pressed of these club exclusives. It’s probably going to be a while before this title goes out of print.

    These club exclusives to date haven't gone out of print. They make small batches, and when it sells out, they just make more. Worst case scenario is that a member might have to wait a few extra weeks on a popular title.

    They all are listed as $24.99, but the club frequently has 50% and 60% off sales, so I purchased my copy new for just $10.

  215. Josh Steinberg

    They don't.

    When I've canceled in the past, it's been as close to "no questions asked" as possible, and I've never noticed an uptick in mailings from them trying to get me back when I wasn't an active member.

    Pretty much — during the cancellation they'll ask why and often offer a perk if you'll stay a member (permanent Free Shipping is the current carrot), "do you want to make a last order. We do have xyz being released soon" but for the most part it's pretty painless.
    I've rarely stay a non-member long enough to get a lot of mail, but one of the Current lifetime Free shipping promo codes was offered to me as an incentive to rejoin allowing me to start again with a 5 for $1 with 3 (or 6 for 13/7 for 22 with 2) required full priced in 24 months — took me about 24 minutes.

    Josh Steinberg

    These club exclusives to date haven't gone out of print. They make small batches, and when it sells out, they just make more. Worst case scenario is that a member might have to wait a few extra weeks on a popular title.

    They all are listed as $24.99, but the club frequently has 50% and 60% off sales, so I purchased my copy new for just $10.

    note for nonmembers — the 50/60% off are "B1 at regular price, Get 50% (60%) off the rest of the items equal/lower priced" in the order. There is always a B1G% offer available — 40/50% for members not yet finished with commits, 50/60% for Full/VIP members

  216. David Norman

    Pretty much — during the cancellation they'll ask why and often offer a perk if you'll stay a member (permanent Free Shipping is the current carrot), "do you want to make a last order. We do have xyz being released soon" but for the most part it's pretty painless.
    I've rarely stay a non-member long enough to get a lot of mail, but one of the Current lifetime Free shipping promo codes was offered to me as an incentive to rejoin allowing me to start again with a 5 for $1 with 3 (or 6 for 13/7 for 22 with 2) required full priced in 24 months — took me about 24 minutes.

    note for nonmembers — the 50/60% off are "B1 at regular price, Get 50% (60%) off the rest of the items equal/lower priced" in the order. There is always a B1G% offer available — 40/50% for members not yet finished with commits, 50/60% for Full/VIP members

    The negative is that if there is a Director's Selection (or whatever they call it) and its say $29.99 you can't just pay the regular price of $34.99 (4K titles for example) and use it for your full price selection. I suppose I could try to get a "cast member" to get it to work.

    Ideally you should be able to use the selection at the discounted price and use that as the full price item. But if you want something over the $29.99 you have to pay full price for that item AND $29.99 for the featured selection… this seems to be the case for several months… at least when I tried it for 4K titles.

    Typically how I remember it working for BMG and Columbia House Compact Disc Club(s): If you purchased the featured title (basically said you would accept it) it counted as a full price title for the buy one get X sales.

  217. The new item discount items can be a conundrum. It's not consistent, but many people have had some luck with having them manually bump the item back to regular price so it can be used as the trigger item for the full discount.

    It is a major YMMV though — I'd say it works about 50% of the time.

    Honestly it's easier just to take the Alternative FT — this month Endgame 4K + infinity War 4K for $42 ($12 for Infinity War or even $7 vs getting them to bump the price of Endgame to $35).. Aggravating, but I'm pretty sure I could get $10 net selling Infinity War 4K (or even just the digital part for pretty close to that). I will say I've done this 8-9 times over the years and usually end up at worst breaking even and more often than not end up making a couple dollars.

    A pain, but given all the other major pluses I have to leave this one alone.

  218. For those that have been waiting — 20000 Leagues and In Search of the Castaways are now officially eligible as initial enrollment items. If you are going to sign up i implore folks to read the sign up primer or better the bluray.com Faq and promo code posts. I have bedn seeing a ton of peopld signing up withthe worst possible codes which essentially double ghave disc costs.

    If you arent getting at 5 for $1, optional picks and at most a max of 3 full priced required purchases after signup (preferably 2) then ask befote you you finish signing up and making a costly error

  219. Johnny Angell

    A year from now, any chance 20K will be for sale to the public?

    I don't think there is any precedent for that. No other exclusive I can think of has hit non-DMC retailers (The Love Bug, Swiss Family Robinson, Old Yeller, Polyanna, etc.). Some/all have had DVD editions before the DMC BD came out, though.

  220. Johnny Angell

    A year from now, any chance 20K will be for sale to the public?

    Probably not. I've decided to bypass rejoining the Club. I just don't want to deal with commitments and doing that monthly exercise especially with Disney+ less than 3 months from launch. I already have some classic Disney titles like 20,000 in my iTunes digital library and I'm happy with them.

  221. Johnny Angell

    A year from now, any chance 20K will be for sale to the public?

    I would say close to zero. No BD exclusives in the 5 years of the program has ever been re-released.

    Out of the 80-100 DVD Exclusive that started in the early 2000's I think less than 10 have ever been released wide

  222. I watched 20000 Leagues tonight. I hadn't watched it in quite a few years, and I had forgotten some important sequences in it. I really enjoyed it.

    Disney must have been very proud of this movie: landing these big, big stars of the era in a very high quality production of an acknowledged classic, and getting some Oscar love for the movie which his previous classic adaptation Treasure Island hadn't garnered.

  223. I've watched 20,000 Leagues three times since purchasing it through DMC. It's a wonderful movie and I love the performances. Nice transfer and looks epic on my front projection scope screen set-up.

    I know a lot of people despise signing up through DMC, but if this makes you feel any better:

    I signed up online and ordered all 8 titles that night. Once they all shipped, I cancelled over the phone (2 min conversation) five days later.

    Eight titles for $80-some dollars total.

    All done. That was it. That simple.

    I plan on rejoining down the road though especially with The Black Hole announced since and there are still more titles I want.

  224. There’s some listing somewhere if the titles available in the DMC. Since I’ve bought Disney thru the years, I had a hard time finding movies I wanted. By that I mean movies that “I gotta have” vs movies “I wouldn’t mind having.” I need to keep my purchases in the former and not the latter.

  225. Signing up I found wasn't that big a hassle because once an e-mail notice comes in about "time to buy next release" it's very easy to click, say no, and not fall in that rut of potentially forgetting and getting stuck with a title I don't want. So signing up to get 20,000 Leagues turned out to be worth it.

  226. Johnny Angell

    There’s some listing somewhere if the titles available in the DMC. Since I’ve bought Disney thru the years, I had a hard time finding movies I wanted. By that I mean movies that “I gotta have” vs movies “I wouldn’t mind having.” I need to keep my purchases in the former and not the latter.

    This is the most UTD Bluray list out there.

    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/15QSRYAAgQY9H2Jh3UkWMty_55kzpXyrBhE3Uj5jZkXg/edit?usp=sharing

  227. Matt Hough

    I watched 20000 Leagues tonight. I hadn't watched it in quite a few years, and I had forgotten some important sequences in it. I really enjoyed it.

    Disney must have been very proud of this movie: landing these big, big stars of the era in a very high quality production of an acknowledged classic, and getting some Oscar love for the movie which his previous classic adaptation Treasure Island hadn't garnered.

    I watched on Saturday night and haven't seen the movie in easily 20 years, maybe more. I was absolutely floored with how much of the movie I didn't remember seeing EVER before. Essentially, I remembered the beginning and the end…that's it.

    My comment to a fellow Disney friend over text was "The D does not make movies like this anymore…"

  228. I watched it again last night and was reminded of just how GREAT it looks! It really is a gorgeous transfer. The only gripe I have is the complete lack of extras. I'd LOVE to see a special edition done of this film. Someday I'm going to do a James Mason double feature with 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea and Journey to the Center of the Earth.

  229. dpippel

    I watched it again last night and was reminded of just how GREAT it looks! It really is a gorgeous transfer. The only gripe I have is the complete lack of extras. I'd LOVE to see a special edition done of this film. Someday I'm going to do a James Mason double feature with 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea and Journey to the Center of the Earth.

    Imagine that James Mason had this movie AND A Star Is Born as his movie output for 1954. What a glorious year for him!

  230. Matt Hough

    Imagine that James Mason had this movie AND A Star Is Born as his movie output for 1954. What a glorious year for him!

    Agreed, quite a magnificent year for Mr. Mason! "Mirror, mirror on the wall, who is the greatest star of them all?"

  231. The year I was born was also the year A Star is Born was first restored. Though George Cukor had just died after giving the go-ahead*, Mason was around for it; he'd just done a Sesame Street special called Don't Eat the Pictures set at the Metropolitan Museum of Art where he plays the head of some long-dead Egyptian**; ironically he himself would be gone a year later, which was this film's 30th anniversary and the last year Walt's side of the family controlled Walt Disney Productions. The Blu-ray just released has no more extras than the pan-and-scan analog sound (no CX noise reduction) laserdisc available then, but in terms of the actual film presentation it should be like night and day.

    bujaki

    But Marlon got the AA for a movie about being on Water.

    Funny how he kept that one but in 1972 suddenly it became an offer he could refuse.

    *Robert Stevenson, whom he beat for an Oscar a decade later, would soon know how he felt after the (still-ongoing) Bedknobs and Broomsticks editing saga, but he wouldn't live to see that get restored (or taken apart again for Blu-ray), either.
    **It makes sense if you actually watched it, grim though the subplot about a boy dying to join his ancestors as a star in the sky may be. Also interesting to note that it was their first special after Will Lee (Mr. Hooper) died, and that the late Northern Calloway (David) was in that but not Follow That Bird.

  232. MatthewA

    The year I was born was also the year A Star is Born was first restored. Though George Cukor had just died after giving the go-ahead*, Mason was around for it; he'd just done a Sesame Street special called Don't Eat the Pictures set at the Metropolitan Museum of Art where he plays the head of some long-dead Egyptian**; ironically he himself would be gone a year later, which was this film's 30th anniversary and the last year Walt's side of the family controlled Walt Disney Productions. The Blu-ray just released has no more extras than the pan-and-scan analog sound (no CX noise reduction) laserdisc available then, but in terms of the actual film presentation it should be like night and day.

    Funny how he kept that one but in 1972 suddenly it became an offer he could refuse.

    *Robert Stevenson, whom he beat for an Oscar a decade later, would soon know how he felt after the (still-ongoing) Bedknobs and Broomsticks editing saga, but he wouldn't live to see that get restored (or taken apart again for Blu-ray), either.
    **It makes sense if you actually watched it, grim though the subplot about a boy dying to join his ancestors as a star in the sky may be. Also interesting to note that it was their first special after Will Lee (Mr. Hooper) died, and that the late Northern Calloway (David) was in that but not Follow That Bird.

    It must have been a horse('s head) of a different color … ;)!

    Speaking of which, I did a quick QC on the 20,000 Leagues blu-ray and the color is AMAZING! Ironically my concern was I couldn't find a speck of minus or plus density anywhere…including some shots that I'm sure had rear-screen projection …:cool:!

  233. B-ROLL

    It must have been a horse('s head) of a different color … ;)!

    Speaking of which, I did a quick QC on the 20,000 Leagues blu-ray and the color is AMAZING! Ironically my concern was I couldn't find a speck of minus or plus density anywhere…including some shots that I'm sure had rear-screen projection …:cool:!

    Exactly why is that a “concern”? That’s what a good digital cleanup is supposed to do. Remove of the dirt specs and stabilize the image. So you think that they should have figured out which specks were originally on the film running on the backdrops and leave those in? :D​
  234. Mark-P
    Exactly why is that a “concern”? That’s what a good digital cleanup is supposed to do. Remove of the dirt specs and stabilize the image. So you think that they should have figured out which specks were originally on the film running on the backdrops and leave those in? :D​

    Maybe too much clean-up … 😎 I've only seen prints that had not been pristine … just sayin 😉 …

  235. B-ROLL

    Maybe too much clean-up … 😎 I've only seen prints that had not been pristine … just sayin 😉 …

    It seems to be mainly the animation that has suffered from overdone clean-up work. Hopefully that is not the case here.

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