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Buyers beware: the R1/R4 version of Monsters, Inc. is NOT widescreen


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#1 of 33 OFFLINE   Javier_Huerta

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Posted September 15 2002 - 01:58 AM

Which is a terrible, terrible loss. It's exactly the same presentation as the R1 version, but it has 2 added languages (Portuguese and Spanish). It seems they had to lose the widescreen presentation in order to gain the extra languages.

I'm completely saddened by the fact I bought this version. I'll have to buy mine from the States...

DARN!!! Posted Image

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#2 of 33 OFFLINE   David Lambert

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Posted September 15 2002 - 02:06 AM

Your subject is a tad confusing, so let me make sure we have this right:

R1 version has both WS and FS versions in the same box:
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R4 version, you say, removes the WS version to make room for Spanish and Portuguese languages. Presumably for the Mexico/South America versions, rather than the Australia/New Zealand versions.

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#3 of 33 OFFLINE   James Reader

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Posted September 15 2002 - 03:13 AM

A quick addendum to David's post: The Canadian R1 version of Monsters, Inc. does not have the full frame version (but does still include the proper widescreen version).
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#4 of 33 OFFLINE   Luis S

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Posted September 15 2002 - 04:31 AM

I saw a R1/R4 at my local b&m last week.Was that a mistake then?I couldnt believe it! I was just about to buy it when I noticed it!Posted Image Now ill just wait till tuesday I guess...
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#5 of 33 OFFLINE   Javier_Huerta

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Posted September 15 2002 - 07:28 AM

Sorry about the subject line. It is indeed confusing.

The R1/R4 version is NOT for sale in the US. It's basically identical to the R1 version except for the box: this version is white, and has Boo on the cover.

But what's inside is what counts, and this release is the worst Disney DVD I have ever seen. Disc 2 is even worse than Disc 1, actually. Disc 1 at least has the 4:3 full screen release (meaning instead of black bars, you do get additional content on the top and bottom of the screen, just like A Bug's Life). But all the extras are dubbed in spanish and portuguese. And they didn't even bother to eliminate the english dialogue on the bonus disc - which means you get to listen to the bonus materials' in softly spoken english and in spanish or portuguese at a higher volume level at the same time. It's simply the worst dubbing I've ever seen in any medium. It's so bad the extras are unwatchable.

Seriously, I advise anyone thinking about buying the R1/R4 release of this disc to avoid like the plague and to get the R1 version instead. It's so bad it makes me want to return it.
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#6 of 33 OFFLINE   James Reader

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Posted September 15 2002 - 08:29 AM

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It's simply the worst dubbing I've ever seen in any medium. It's so bad the extras are unwatchable.


This is what has been done to the supplements on the French (and German) Sleeping Beauty 2 disc set. It's most annoying for somebody like me who cannot speak any French to be teased with the English soundtrack, but only able to make out 1 in every 5 or so words and not have the option to change audio track!

So I sit there like an idiot, straining my ears just to try and make out what people are saying Posted Image
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#7 of 33 OFFLINE   YANG

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Posted September 15 2002 - 03:47 PM

I've just received my copy of R3 release of MONSTERS INC. which carries only widescreen version of the film.No fullscreen option for this R3 release but comes with an option of ENGLISH DTS 5.1 surr.
Disc 2 contents,i believe is that same as R1 release.I have noticed that the disc 2 is pressed by "CITREK CA."

#8 of 33 OFFLINE   Allan Mack

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Posted September 15 2002 - 06:37 PM

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Disc 1 at least has the 4:3 full screen release (meaning instead of black bars, you do get additional content on the top and bottom of the screen, just like A Bug's Life).

I'm confused. Does this mean Monsters, Inc. is hard or open matte? Or was it recomposed for 4:3 like A Bug's Life?

Just curious...

#9 of 33 OFFLINE   Nathan*W

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Posted September 15 2002 - 10:43 PM

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Or was it recomposed for 4:3 like A Bug's Life?
Yes.
 

#10 of 33 OFFLINE   Johnny G

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Posted September 15 2002 - 11:09 PM

Jesus, James

I never knew Sleeping Beauty had been released anywhere yet. I just searched and found this Posted Image here but it says no more available.

Which is better, the German or the French and where can I get it?

Needless to say it must be 2.35:1 Anamorphic with English Dolby Digital 5.1!

#11 of 33 OFFLINE   Mark_Wilson

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Posted September 16 2002 - 12:12 AM

Is the Canadian R1 a higher bit rate than the US R1? I've noticed some nasty compression artifacts in the US version. You can easily see them in Waternooses red vest.

#12 of 33 OFFLINE   James Reader

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Posted September 16 2002 - 01:28 AM

Johnny G you have mail.
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#13 of 33 OFFLINE   Enrique B Chamorro

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Posted September 16 2002 - 02:14 AM

Yang, what is the bit rate of the R3 NTSC version
with the DTS track?

#14 of 33 OFFLINE   Michael St. Clair

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Posted September 16 2002 - 04:26 AM

Yes, let us see bitrate calculator results for all versions!

#15 of 33 OFFLINE   YANG

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Posted September 16 2002 - 04:03 PM

The bitrate for the R3 version is approx. 750kbps. My player do not show the exact figure(a PHILIPS DVD951,which shows only little bars).
The most logical way to judge it as 750kbps is by looking at the multiple language tracks that was squeezed into disc1.

#16 of 33 OFFLINE   Enrique B Chamorro

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Posted September 16 2002 - 04:51 PM

Yang,

If you have a PC with a DVD drive, you can get
the bit rate program from here;

http://www.remotesel...om/download.htm

#17 of 33 OFFLINE   YANG

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Posted September 16 2002 - 11:20 PM

Thank you ENRIQUE for the link.
Unfortunately i do not have a DVD-ROM drive with the computer.
I will take note of the address you give to me.

#18 of 33 OFFLINE   Enrique B Chamorro

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Posted September 17 2002 - 10:54 AM

US R1 W/S Bit Rate 6.31 Mb/sec
US R1 P&S Bit Rate 4.53 Mb/sec

#19 of 33 OFFLINE   Michael St. Clair

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Posted September 17 2002 - 11:28 AM

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US R1 W/S Bit Rate 6.31 Mb/sec

Thanks, now does anybody have the Canada R1?

FYI, that is not a great bitrate for animation, but the P&S crowd really got pimped! (and rightfully so)

#20 of 33 OFFLINE   Jeff Mason

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Posted September 24 2002 - 03:59 AM

Per the bit rate viewer, the Canadian version is also 6.30 Mb/sec.


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