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#1 of 9 OFFLINE   Joe McCabe

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Posted August 03 2002 - 04:57 AM

This is interesting, but too bad we won't get to try it anytime soon.

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#2 of 9 OFFLINE   John Sturge

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Posted August 03 2002 - 05:36 AM

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Kirin has no current plans to sell “The Old Kingdom Beer” commercially


That bites. But why would anyone want beer that tastes a little like white wine? It's cool that it's 4,400 year old recipe that Egyptians drank though...

#3 of 9 OFFLINE   Bob Partovi

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Posted August 04 2002 - 07:52 AM

That egyptian wine sounds really cool and looks it too. Why do Western beers but Hops if they are so bitter then?
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#4 of 9 OFFLINE   Greg Z

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Posted August 04 2002 - 10:16 AM

The hops are used to counterbalance the malts which are used. They also add a floral aroma to the beer. Not all beers are bitter. English Brown ales and German "Oktoberfest" beers are quite malty, with hardly any hops used in the beer.

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Posted August 05 2002 - 03:18 AM

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#6 of 9 OFFLINE   KyleS

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Posted August 05 2002 - 06:46 AM

Funny Neil I was just thinking the same thing. This does sound like an interesting idea and would possibly allow me to enjoy beer a little more since I dont really like the taste of Malts. Posted Image

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Posted August 05 2002 - 09:39 AM

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...and contains 10 percent alcohol
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“It also has a taste very different from today’s beer,” Kirin spokesman Takaomi Ishii said. “It tastes a little like white wine.”
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Worthy of a taste no doubt, but, with the comments above about the high alc % and the white wine comment, no head, about the only thing it has in common with current beers of today is the color. It more so seems to fit the category of a 4,400 year old wine.

I'm willing to bet Kiren will market the stuff. Hey, it already has a great catch line "the 4,400 year old beer", who would not buy a bottle and try it?


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#8 of 9 OFFLINE   Bob Partovi

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Posted August 05 2002 - 10:29 AM

I'd love to see it. From what I remember the Middle-easterns invented beer, but it's very rare now there because many of the countries prohibit it for local customs. What are some examples of English Brown ales and other types of sweet beers. I like Heineken and Michelob, but that's about it.
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#9 of 9 OFFLINE   Zen Butler

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Posted August 14 2002 - 05:05 PM

With the absence of hops, it would not be the beer we know and love today. Just a bit of trivia the Sumerians are credited for the invention of beer and the oldest known recipe contained in an ancient hymn

The Hymn to Ninkasi, inscribed on a nineteenth-century B.C. tablet, contains a recipe for Sumerian beer.)

Translation by Miguel Civil

Borne of the flowing water (...)
Tenderly cared for by the Ninhursag,
Borne of the flowing water (...)
Tenderly cared for by the Ninhursag,

Having founded your town by the sacred lake,
She finished its great walls for you,
Ninkasi, having founded your town by the sacred lake,
She finished its great walls for you

Your father is Enki, Lord Nidimmud,
Your mother is Ninti, the queen of the sacred lake,
Ninkasi, Your father is Enki, Lord Nidimmud,
Your mother is Ninti, the queen of the sacred lake.

You are the one who handles the dough,
[and] with a big shovel,
Mixing in a pit, the bappir with sweet aromatics,
Ninkasi, You are the one who handles
the dough, [and] with a big shovel,
Mixing in a pit, the bappir with [date]-honey.

You are the one who bakes the bappir
in the big oven,
Puts in order the piles of hulled grains,
Ninkasi, you are the one who bakes
the bappir in the big oven,
Puts in order the piles of hulled grains,

You are the one who waters the malt
set on the ground,
The noble dogs keep away even the potentates,
Ninkasi, you are the one who waters the malt
set on the ground,
The noble dogs keep away even the potentates.

You are the one who soaks the malt in a jar
The waves rise, the waves fall.
Ninkasi, you are the one who soaks
the malt in a jar
The waves rise, the waves fall.

You are the one who spreads the cooked
mash on large reed mats,
Coolness overcomes.
Ninkasi, you are the one who spreads
the cooked mash on large reed mats,
Coolness overcomes.

You are the one who holds with both hands
the great sweet wort,
Brewing [it] with honey and wine
(You the sweet wort to the vessel)
Ninkasi, (...)
(You the sweet wort to the vessel)

The filtering vat, which makes
a pleasant sound,
You place appropriately on [top of]
a large collector vat.
Ninkasi, the filtering vat,
which makes a pleasant sound,
You place appropriately on [top of]
a large collector vat.

When you pour out the filtered beer
of the collector vat,
It is [like] the onrush of
Tigris and Euphrates.
Ninkasi, you are the one who pours out the
filtered beer of the collector vat,
It is [like] the onrush of
Tigris and Euphrates.

This was about 6,000 years ago.....for more beer facts history and fun please join us in the "Let's Talk Beer" thread

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