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Who owns the rights to Pirates of Penzance?


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#1 of 44 OFFLINE   Mark Bendiksen

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Posted July 23 2002 - 07:23 AM


This is one movie that I truly long to own on DVD. Does anyone know who currently owns the rights? Is it Universal? I've never seen Pirates of Penzance in its correct aspect ratio. Heck, I don't think I've ever even viewed it with stereo sound!

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#2 of 44 OFFLINE   Jesse Skeen

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Posted July 23 2002 - 08:32 AM

Yep, it's Universal- I have it on CED videodisc in pan and scan, but it is in stereo! Interesting note about this movie, as an experiment they ran it on HBO once BEFORE it opened in theaters.
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Posted July 23 2002 - 09:28 AM

The way rights change hands now it's hard to say, but I'm betting Universal still owns it. I managed to tape a widescreen edition of this from some cable channel (Bravo?), and it has whetted my apetite for a decent DVD.

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Posted July 23 2002 - 10:12 AM

I can remember going over to a friends house and watching this on their laserdisc player. Must have been the only movie I ever saw on that format. Definitly belongs on DVD. Universal, I merely remind you of the fact that you have this movie & leave the rest to your sense of duty!
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#5 of 44 OFFLINE   Mark Bendiksen

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Posted February 14 2003 - 04:20 AM

I know that thread bumping is frowned upon but I figured once every six months would be acceptable. Has anyone heard anything at all in recent months? Probably not...but I figured I'd ask. This is one DVD that I really really want to get my grubby little hands on.

#6 of 44 OFFLINE   Aaron Reynolds

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Posted February 14 2003 - 05:33 AM

I have the old MCA LD (from 1983, I think). It's pan & scan, but it is stereo and the sound is quite good. Actually, right and left are reversed (the directional dialogue is a giveaway). I'd love to see this in widescreen.

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Posted February 14 2003 - 09:00 AM

I'm with you Mark--I would buy this the moment it was released. Let's hope it happens soon.

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Posted February 14 2003 - 03:00 PM

Which version are we talking about? There's a Kevin Kline/Linda Ronstadt dvd of this available right now. I assume this is the same as the LD.
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#9 of 44 OFFLINE   Nick Senger

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Posted February 14 2003 - 04:35 PM

No, I believe the version you're referring to is a 1980 recording of a live Central Park performance (which did indeed star Kline, Ronstadt and Smith). But as far as I know, the movie from 1983 is still unavailable on DVD--at least in Region 1.

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Posted August 04 2004 - 02:32 PM

Yes, that would be the live version, which is an old video tape that looks like a high school tape, in video qiality that is. I had it and sold it. It was still a great show thought and it was fun to watch Patricia Routledge of "Keeping Up Appeaances" playing Ruth, but Angela is the best! Also true that when Pirates was released, they were just starting to test pay-per-view. Universal's first movie fopr pay per view was PIRATES. Because of this, 80% of the theatre chains across the country boycotted the movie, so it only played in maybe one theatre in every area. Unfortunate because I think it would have made a good amount of money for Universal. In Angela Lanbury's biography, she says that this was the first role she was scared to take, because the singing was way out of her range. She states she was never really a trained singer. Boy, after listening to MAME and PIRATES and BEDKNOBS and BEAUTY & BEAST, could have fooled me. I remember when the laserdisc came out. After seeing the movie 9 times at the Hopkins theatre in Minneapolis, I ordered it next day air, and when it came, watched it maybe 20 times that week. The left and right channels were reversed, but for it's time, the sound quality was very good. But it suffers so, this is one of those movies that loses ALOT in the pan and scan format. People are missing, choreography ruined, and people are singing you cannot even see. I know for a fact Universal owns the rights, as one time (out of about 150) they wrote me back and said they have no plans to release this film. You would think that a Gilbert and Sullivan musical with the likes of Ronstadt, Kline, Lansbury, and so on, would make for an attractive release. Instead, we are going on the 6th different version of American Pie. What's with this company? The film was remastered for home video about 5 years ago. Now I know the theatrical and laserdisc (Identical) soundtrack by heart. They changed it, bringing all those great stereo voices into the center channel. The dialogue was all mono on the new video-tape transfer. I prey they use the original version, should they ever get around to releasing a dvd. If you write to Universal for this film (go to UNIVERSALSTUDIOS.COM and click on CONTACT, then HOME VIDEO DEPARTMENT) please mention the soundtrack issue, I am trying to make them aware that there is a better one, the original, shopuld someone that tinkered with it not be there anymore, and no one realizes what they did. The day this disc is released, I will be at the store the minute they open, and have the day off. This is, to me, the best musical since Fiddler on the Roof. Thanks Mark for the opportunity to discuss this great film.

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Posted August 04 2004 - 02:53 PM

I did see this, I think on Bravo, and it was just so well done! C'mon Universal! If you don't want to release it, farm it out to Criterion!

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Posted August 04 2004 - 03:37 PM

This DVD is up for pre-order at DVD Planet. No info about aspect ratio (it is supposed to be 2.35:1). The retail is quite high at $24.95, so I would certainly hope it's OAR.

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Posted August 04 2004 - 03:41 PM

Dick, this is not the movie, it is the live stage version that had most of the same cast except for Angela Lansbury. While this is a fun movie, the video quality is mono and a very poor dated video taping of the show, nothing like the film version. I still appreciate your checking Posted Image

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Posted August 05 2004 - 04:44 AM

I tapped the film when it was show on Bravo - in widescreen. The film does need to be viewed in it's correct OAR. A DVD with stereo sound would be most welcome. Don't know why Universal hasn't released this one yet, even if they use the Bravo transfer.

#15 of 44 OFFLINE   Mark Bendiksen

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Posted August 06 2004 - 06:36 AM


[quote] I know for a fact Universal owns the rights, as one time (out of about 150) they wrote me back and said they have no plans to release this film. You would think that a Gilbert and Sullivan musical with the likes of Ronstadt, Kline, Lansbury, and so on, would make for an attractive release. Instead, we are going on the 6th different version of American Pie. What's with this company? [quote] Thanks, Robert. I couldn't have summed it up any better; those are my same feelings in a nutshell. I for one am going to take the unprecedented (unprecedented for me, anyway) step of writing snail mail to Universal about this one. I for one have never seen Pirates of Penzance in its correct aspect ratio. It will probably be a whole new experience for me, if and when Universal gets off its butt and actually releases it.

Anybody know the best address to use when sending a traditional letter to this company?


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Posted August 06 2004 - 06:56 AM

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Posted August 06 2004 - 06:57 AM

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#18 of 44 OFFLINE   Ted Todorov

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Posted August 06 2004 - 06:59 AM

[quote] You would think that a Gilbert and Sullivan musical with the likes of Ronstadt, Kline, Lansbury, and so on, would make for an attractive release. [quote]

As someone who saw the original cast stage production (it was produced by the Public Theater and staged in Central Park, then moved to B'way) before seeing the film version, for once I have to agree with keeping this one in the vault where it belongs.

Awful, awful film compared to the stage production. It boggled my mind how badly the ruined it. The cast was essentially the same, same director -- how they massacred it so badly, no one knows.

The good news: the original stage production, in a made for TV version is available on DVD!!! http://imdb.com/title/tt0363891/

And thanks to this thread, I can go and buy it!

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Posted August 06 2004 - 06:59 AM

Mark, you're welcome. I have really strong feelings about this issue. They waste time on 6 versions of films and leave great movies unreleased. If you have never seen this in widescreen, I have to tell you you have really not seen the movie. Case in point, the song IT REALLY DOESN'T MATTER, when they're all singing near the end, Angela and Kline are coming through the doors on the sides, it's gone. And this is the case throughout the movie. They really used the 2:35 screen for this film heavily, and it doesn't make sense in some scenes without it. I don't know Universal's mail, have you tried to go to Universalstudios.com and click ?contact" opn the top bar, I am not sure if they have a written address there, but if you find one, I would love to have it too. I want to also request FLOWER DRUM SONG, the only Rogers and Hammerstein film not on dvd (aside from the State Fair remake). It's more important for them to release Pufnstuf and Don Knotts I guess, which I admire, but come on, this is Rogers and Hammerstein!

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Posted August 06 2004 - 07:01 AM

Ted, I read your post and STRONGLY disagree, but we all have our tastes. I also saw the stage version live and while I thought is was incredible, I thought they did an excellent job on the movie, this movie is in my top 20 of all time. To each his own I guess.

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