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*** Official "HALLOWEEN: RESURRECTION" Discussion Thread


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#1 of 71 OFFLINE   Inspector Hammer!

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Posted July 09 2002 - 05:30 AM

I probably will see it, maybe not this weekend, but eventually. This is a strange one for me, on one hand I find it hard to get excited about any movie with Busta Rymes in it, but on the other hand Jamie Lee Curtis is back again, always a plus, and Rick Rosenthal returns to the directing chair since 'Halloween II'.

Looks like a tried and true horror formula too, teens dared to spend the night in a haunted house and are killed off. Simple and basic, but it has been known to work on occasion so we'll see. Just as long as Marco Beltrami isn't providing the score, that guy just plain sucks! His score for 'Scream' was good, but he completly ruined Halloween H20 for me. They should have used John Carpenter's classic score.
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Posted July 09 2002 - 05:44 AM

I'm going for Jamie Lee's cameo and right when Michael "kills" her, I'll walk out of the theater knowing the series has finally ended in my mind. Posted Image

Why I want to see the movie:
1. I love Halloween and Halloween 4. Halloween 2, Halloween 5, and Halloween 6 (producer's cut) were enjoyable.

Why I don't want to see the movie:
1. Halloween H20 was a piece of shit and if Halloween 3 or Halloween 6 didn't taint the series, this one certainly did.
2. Busta Rhymes and Tyra Banks? No thanks.
3. Rick Rosenthal is not a good director.
4. I've already seen Blair Witch 2: Book of Shadows thank you very much.
5. I'll spend my $5.50 on Reign of Fire, I've already spent enough money on bad sequels this week.
6. Did I mention that Halloween H20 tainted the series for me?

Yeah, I can wait for DVD. Posted Image

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Just as long as Marco Beltrami isn't providing the score, that guy just plain sucks! His score for 'Scream' was good, but he completely ruined Halloween H20 for me.


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Marco Beltrami didn't do anything for H20, you can blame the Weinstein brothers for ruining the score of H20. They weren't happy with John Ottman's score for the film (which I thought was good), so they took tracks from Beltrami's previous scores he did for previous Dimension/Miramax films (Scream, Scream 2, etc) and inserted them into H20 replacing all of Ottman's original score.


#3 of 71 OFFLINE   Inspector Hammer!

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Posted July 09 2002 - 05:57 AM

Rick Rosenthal did a pretty good job with Halloween II I thought, so I feel a tad safe in is hands, at least he's had some 'Halloween' experience.

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where did you hear Ottman's original score? That was incredibly lazy on Dimension's part to do something so dumb as to just take a score from another film!? I can't believe they even did that!

And unfortunatly your spoiler tags didn't block out anything when I checked my e-mail for reply notices. I read the whole thing. Posted Image
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Posted July 09 2002 - 06:21 AM

I'll go see it, because I am a horror fan, and I like the webcam idea. I'm not really expecting much of course, but still. The original and part 3 are the best films in the series, and the only ones I hate are H20 and part 5. Hopefully I won't hate RESURRECTION too bad.

I will also be seeing REIGN OF FIRE and ROAD TO PERDITION as well on Friday.

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Posted July 09 2002 - 06:23 AM

I have advance screening passes for this one on Thursday night. It was either this or the Crocodile Hunter movie. Hopefully this won't be mistake #3 in recent memory where I've gone to the wrong screenings

1 Powerpuff Girls or Mr Deeds - probably both lousy but Deeds really sucked

2 MIB2 or Like Mike - chose MIB2 and didn't like it much.

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Posted July 09 2002 - 06:27 AM

I'll be going to see it because I like the series but I don't hold out much hope for this entry. I thought Rosenthal's job on HII was okay, but pretty stagnant when compared with the original.

I think the reality thing has been done to death now and it's time for filmmakers to move on to something else, but as long as it brings in the bucks...

I'm generally opposed to this one for several reasons:

1) However one feels about H20, Resurrection is a betrayal to that storyline
by killing off Laurie Strode, thus negating the whole purpose of the previous entry. The character deserves better than this.

2)
Busta Rhymes does not die a slow, horrible death.

3)There's no reason to introduce new reasons why Michael is what he is. That messes with the mystique of the original.
4) Did I mention
Busta Rhymes does not die a slow, horrible death?

5) The whole explanation of how Michael survived his decapitation is ludicrous, even upon amateur inspection.
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Posted July 09 2002 - 07:02 AM

I'll go see the midnight show... that way if it sucks, I'll only be out $4! Posted Image

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Posted July 09 2002 - 07:09 AM

Maybe this review will sway some of you from seeing it: http://www.aintitcoo...y.cgi?id=12649. (Yeah, it's from Ain't It Cool, but it's Moriarty the best writer on the site.) I have a feeling that this review will be 10 times more entertaining than the film.
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Posted July 09 2002 - 11:59 AM

Wait, why did H20 suck? I thought it dragged a little, but it was watchable.

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Posted July 09 2002 - 12:48 PM

Wasn't Rosenthal replaced on Halloween 2? I thought that he was fired and Carpenter had to finish it and edit it. And I also remember hearing that Rosenthal was fired off of this one and they brought Steve Miner in to finish this new one.

I may be wrong, but I'm still not jazzed about this.

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Posted July 09 2002 - 02:29 PM

I'll go...I'm a glutton for punishment though Posted Image
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Posted July 09 2002 - 02:46 PM

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where did you hear Ottman's original score? That was incredibly lazy on Dimension's part to do something so dumb as to just take a score from another film!? I can't believe they even did that!
Some of Ottman's score IS in the film, but major pieces of it were replaced by Beltrami's tracked-in music (and some small original pieces Dimension had Beltrami compose). I know somebody who worked for Miramax/Dimension at the time and she told me that the studio wanted more of a "Scream"-vibe from the film, so that's why the music was altered.

Ottman's original score is available on a terrific CD entitled "John Ottman's Portrait of Terror" on the Varese Sarabande label. Contractually, he couldn't call it the H20 soundtrack, though a careful reading of the track titles and liner notes gives it away. It's a very good orchestral horror score.
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Posted July 09 2002 - 03:14 PM

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"the studio wanted more of a "Scream"-vibe from the film..."

Now you see, that pisses me off right their! The 'Halloween' series isn't 'Scream'!!! They ruined the film by using that type of music, it wasn't 'Halloween', and it produced no suspense or tension, just average Neve Campbell, cast of the WB, "oh shit, we'd better run here comes Michael Myers!" type of shit! Posted Image

It just goes to show you that the studio either doesn't give 2 shits, or they don't know what makes a film TRULY scary in the first place. "Kids today seem to love them Scream movies, just throw some Scream music in it, they'll love it!!"

BULLSHIT!!

There's a reason they call it QUIET terror. Horror films now don't have nearly enough SILENCE in them. That's what made The Exorcist so terrifying, the quiet, dead silence.

Close your eyes and picture in your mind, or better yet, pop in your dvd of the original and skip to the scene when Laurie is being chased across the street by the Shape, listen to the music, hear how it starts pounding harder as she reaches the door of the Doyal house pleading with Tommy to open the door. Or the scene when they cut to an establishing shot of the Myers house as sherriff Bracket's car pulls into frame, as we see the black letter's S H E R R I F F on his car, that eerie, haunting music starts and continues all the way through Loomis' "I met this, six year old child with this blind, pale..." speech.

THAT'S Halloween folks.
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Posted July 09 2002 - 03:19 PM

BTW, who DID compose the score for the new film?
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Posted July 09 2002 - 04:14 PM

I suppose I'm the only person here who actually enjoyed Halloween H20? I thought it was a nice return to the series and emphasized suspense over body count. I also liked how Laurie was so certain about the survivability of Michael.

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Posted July 09 2002 - 04:40 PM

Watching Busta pull some ass whooping on Michael Myers in the trailer sealed it for me. NO THANKS. Has MM become a pathetic tackling dummy now? REIGN OF FIRE, here I come!
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Posted July 09 2002 - 07:18 PM

Alex...I also enjoyed H20. I didn't think it was a great film, but I liked it better than all the sequels, save #2.

As much as I think I won't like the Resurrection, I'm going to see it anyway...but I'm going to see Reign of Fire too Posted Image
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Posted July 10 2002 - 12:57 AM

I'm watching Halloween: Resurrection first this weekend. If H8 is truly awful at least Reign of Fire can wash the bad taste out of my mouth. Throughout the series Halloween, H2, and H4 (my favorite sequel) are really the only ones I like. I grew up on Halloween and Friday movies so I'll see them in the theater no matter what just for nostalgia. I'm not expecting much for this sequel but there's always hope that I'll be entertained.
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Posted July 10 2002 - 03:28 PM

who's up for it this weekend? Not me. Maybe I'll catch it when it's two bucks, but I can't imagine at that point there won't be something else I'd rather see. Let's see....I guess it'll be at the cheap seats in about three weeks, right?

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Posted July 10 2002 - 10:54 PM

Well, everyone knows that I love crappy horror movies, so I'll certainly be taking this one in. (Oddly enough, there was no press screening for this particular film in Philadelphia. Shocker there...)

I haven't really enjoyed a Halloween flick since the second one, but that never stops me from lining up at the trough! Posted Image

To answer the composer question, the music for Halloween: Resurrection comes from one Danny Lux. TV credits: The Bachelor, The American Embassy, Robotica, State of Grace and Boston Public, among many others. Film credits? Just Halloween: Resurrection and Stolen Summer.





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