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The Vatican's "Best Movies" list (worth a read!)


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#1 of 49 OFFLINE   Patrick McCart

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Posted July 09 2002 - 03:09 PM

http://cinepad.com/vatican.htm

Among choices like Ben-Hur, there's some excellent choices. Some surprises include Murnou's Nosferatu, Fellini's 8 1/2, and even Citizen Kane.

To keep this thread open, please refrain from insults and thread farts. This is a SERIOUS post, not meant for humor reasons (unlike parts of the AFI lists).

#2 of 49 OFFLINE   Aaron Wisner

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Posted July 09 2002 - 06:43 PM

no last temptation of christ? well i never.

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Posted July 09 2002 - 08:04 PM

More surprising than the lack of The Last Temptation of Christ is the insertion of 2001: A Space Odyssey. I think someone in the Vatican missed the boat on that one.
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Posted July 09 2002 - 08:11 PM

If anybody touches on any religious issues in this thread then this thread will be closed before you can say "Goodnight Irene". Crawdaddy

#5 of 49 OFFLINE   Jeff Cooper

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Posted July 09 2002 - 08:58 PM

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#6 of 49 OFFLINE   Dean DeMass

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Posted July 10 2002 - 01:01 AM

What about Stigmata, Lolita, and Hudson Hawk? Posted Image

Actually, it is a pretty good list with many, many great films. Posted Image

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#7 of 49 OFFLINE   Richard Kim

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Posted July 10 2002 - 01:57 AM

[quote] More surprising than the lack of The Last Temptation of Christ is the insertion of 2001: A Space Odyssey. I think someone in the Vatican missed the boat on that one. [quote]
Actually, 2001 won an award from the Catholic Church at the time of its release (It's detailed in Stanley Kubrick: A Life in Pictures). So it's not surprising it's on the Vatican's list.

#8 of 49 OFFLINE   Will K

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Posted July 10 2002 - 03:04 AM

Well I guess The Exorcist never had a chance, huh?
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#9 of 49 OFFLINE   Lew Crippen

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Posted July 10 2002 - 03:25 AM

For my money this list is an order of magnitude better than the AFI’s peculiar attempt.
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#10 of 49 OFFLINE   andrew markworthy

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Posted July 10 2002 - 03:41 AM

An excellent list. A side-issue: reading through the Pauline Kael's comments on the linked site made me realise what a mean-spirited harpy that woman was.

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Posted July 10 2002 - 03:55 AM

[quote] More surprising than the lack of The Last Temptation of Christ is the insertion of 2001: A Space Odyssey. I think someone in the Vatican missed the boat on that one. [quote]


I don't find this surprising. The final scene certainly has religious symbolism and can easily be interpreted as the second coming.

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Posted July 10 2002 - 04:13 AM

2001 is included under the category of cinematic art, along with "La Strada", "Citizen Kane", "8-1/2", "Nosferatu", and other films having nothing to do with religious themes. It just so happens that 2001 encompasses all of human experience, including the religious experience ultimately reuniting man with his creator. It's a fantastic list and quite obviously assembled with a keen understanding of the cinematic art. Far, far better than such advertising/rental schemes as the various AFI lists.
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#13 of 49 OFFLINE   Luc D

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Posted July 10 2002 - 05:36 AM

Good list, not a stinker in the bunch.

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Posted July 10 2002 - 06:35 AM

No Booty Call?
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#15 of 49 OFFLINE   Morgan Jolley

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Posted July 10 2002 - 06:39 AM

They got Schindler's List and Au Revoir Les Enfants and Citizen Kane, three of my favorite movies.

#16 of 49 OFFLINE   Jack Briggs

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Posted July 10 2002 - 07:39 AM

What Mr. Malloy said. As usual. And please remember Crawdaddy's admonition, folks.

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Posted July 10 2002 - 09:43 AM

[quote] If anybody touches on any religious issues in this thread then this thread will be closed before you can say "Goodnight Irene" [quote]
Why would anyone want to say "Goodnight Irene"? Posted Image

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Posted July 11 2002 - 05:02 AM

[quote] Why would anyone want to say "Goodnight Irene"? [quote]

And more to the point, why would they want to say it quickly before a thread closes? Curiouser and curiouser...


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#19 of 49 OFFLINE   Phil Florian

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Posted July 11 2002 - 05:06 AM

This isn't a religious issue, just a question...who reviews this movies and speaks for the Pope? Did the Pope see all of these movies and give the big papal thumb up? A group of Cardinals? Just curious. And who, beyond movie geeks like us, would read such a list? Phil

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Posted July 11 2002 - 05:38 AM

Phil, from what I know, Pope John Paul II is quite an admirer of the Humanities; he even writes poetry. He has also travelled internationally even before his ascension to the papacy, so it's not as though he has lead a cloistered life. I was always under the impression that the films on this list really did come from the Pope himself.
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