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#1 of 37 Robert_eb

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Posted June 29 2002 - 06:14 AM

Has anyone compared the new remastered Live At Leeds with the MFSL version?

#2 of 37 KeithH

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Posted June 29 2002 - 07:44 AM

Robert, I haven't done the comparison, as I don't have either version. However, I would be curious to hear what people would decide upon doing the comparison. Just this morning, I compared the A&M remastered CD of Supertramp Breakfast in America to the MFSL gold CD and preferred the A&M remastered CD. If you are interested, the review is contained here:

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#3 of 37 Greg_Y

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Posted June 29 2002 - 08:51 AM

All I know is that the remaster seems to be reviled. You might try looking around on the forums at Steve Hoffman's website:
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Posted June 29 2002 - 09:18 AM

Check out White Fang's Who site for comparisons of Who related albums. He's got comparisons of more than 20 different releases of Live at Leeds.

http://www.thewho.net/fang

The Deluxe 2 CD version is crap. The '95 remaster is my favorite. I haven't heard the MFSL version, but based on their other Who releases, I wouldn't expect any improvements.

Buy the Deluxe 2 CD edition for the Tommy Disc only. The other songs sound much better on ANY of the other versions. Some prefer the original running order (& fewer songs) of the original release.


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#5 of 37 Philip Hamm

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Posted July 01 2002 - 12:13 AM

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Some prefer the original running order (& fewer songs) of the original release.
I sure do. I have the 1995 remaster and the original CD and I prefer the original CD with all the crackling noises, original raw sounding mix, and correct running order.
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#6 of 37 Ryan Spaight

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Posted July 01 2002 - 01:15 AM

The MFSL version and the '95 remaster are for all intents and purposes identical. The '01 2-disc "Deluxe" version is a step down in quality, as the whole thing was remastered by Jon "No-Noise" Astley.

The '95 edition is my favorite. I always felt like the original six-song version was just too short, and can't imagine doing without the great performances of "Fortune Teller/Tattoo," "Amazing Journey/Sparks" and others.

The Deluxe version would be great if it didn't sound like it was recorded in a metal tube.

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Posted July 01 2002 - 06:31 AM

i have just about every version of this record on cd and lp(not including the versions from all the different countries). i guess i'll have to do a comparison myself.

i haven't compared the 2 latest versions at home yet i only listened to the 2 cd version in the car.

the only one i dont have is the mfsl version, which i am guessing is a mobile fidelity version. i didnt even know one existed. and i should be punished for not knowing that.

i even have the 4 cd version of lifehouse pete was selling on his web site.

i drew the line at the maher baba tribute music though.
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#8 of 37 Ryan Spaight

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Posted July 01 2002 - 07:50 AM

Oh, wow, I'm in a .sig file.

Thanks, Tony. I'm honored.

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#9 of 37 Ken_McAlinden

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Posted July 01 2002 - 08:38 AM

IMHO, the original is the Live at Leeds I grew up with - cracks and pops included. The expanded and remixed 1995 release (which I believe is what is on the MFSL) is an OK sounding clean-up of the same with a different mix approach and some 25 years later overdubs on some of the added tracks.

The expanded "Deluxe" edition with the separate Tommy disc has a few more overdubs and edits on the added tracks to hide goofs, is out of sequence so that Tommy can fit all on one disc (but adds a lot of amusing between-song chatter with the extra space), and falls short of complete by omitting a somewhat awkward version of "Spoonful" that was segued into directly from "Shakin' All Over". These are all forgiveable. The mastering job is not. No-noise-a-palooza. Yuck.

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#10 of 37 LarryDavenport

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Posted July 01 2002 - 09:00 AM

The single disc with bonus tracks sounds fine, but the 2-CD set sucks big time. It proves how deaf Pete Townsend has become. Only someone with severe tinitis would think it sounds good.

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Posted July 01 2002 - 11:44 PM

The '95 remaster sounds great to my ears (blew me away when I first heard the remastered SHAKIN' ALL OVER through headphones) but I've heard too many bad things about the current 2-CD extended set. Funnily enough there are a number of websites that claim to sell boots of the same material with better sound quality, more song chatter etc... I'll have to grab that 4-CD LIFEHOUSE set someday.

#12 of 37 Larry Geller

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Posted July 02 2002 - 02:19 AM

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I'll have to grab that 4-CD LIFEHOUSE set someday.

Not 4-CD, 6-CD!!!
The MFSL is extremely rare, as it was the LAST MFSL to hit the stores (only barely) before they suspended operations.

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#13 of 37 Ken_McAlinden

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Posted July 02 2002 - 02:21 AM

Didn't the MFSL use the same digital files as the redbook aluminum disc of the 1995 remix/remaster?

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Posted July 03 2002 - 09:34 AM

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Not 4-CD, 6-CD!!!
oops thats what i meant.:b
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#15 of 37 Ryan Spaight

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Posted July 03 2002 - 02:41 PM

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Didn't the MFSL use the same digital files as the redbook aluminum disc of the 1995 remix/remaster?


That's what I've heard. Same with Who's Next.

I'm not sure if the remixed masters even exist in the analog domain. They probably just mixed 'em straight to digital.

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Posted July 20 2002 - 08:28 AM

I bought the 2 disc deluxe version before reading this thread, but I have to say I'm pretty happy with it. Sounds great to my ears, but I've got nothing to compare it to.
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#17 of 37 Kevin C Brown

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Posted July 20 2002 - 09:39 AM

Indeed! Posted Image

I had the '95 master that I *combined* with the somewhat available boot of "Live Tommy at the Leeds," but then I jumped right to the 2 disc master.

Luckily, I kept the boot. I'll have to go back and compare now myself.

One question: I thought that Pete's guitar was mixed lower in the '95 version (as compared to the original), but that they brought it back somewhat in the newer 2-disc version. That's why I really didn't like the '95 version.

Anyone ever compare the Midas Touch (MD 61500) boot of Tommy vs the remastered 2 disc version? I have both, but haven't yet... Posted Image


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#18 of 37 Philip Hamm

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Posted July 22 2002 - 02:09 AM

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That's what I've heard. Same with Who's Next.
Which would mean that the Steve Hoffman mastered budget CD of WHo's Next (still available in Canada I believe - search the music section here for the detailed thread) would sound significantly better than the expensive MFSL version. Who knew?

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#19 of 37 Dan B

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Posted July 22 2002 - 07:10 AM

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Which would mean that the Steve Hoffman mastered budget CD of WHo's Next (still available in Canada I believe - search the music section here for the detailed thread) would sound significantly better than the expensive MFSL version. Who knew?
Yep, that's true. I just picked up an extra-extra-extra copy of Who's Next (Hoffman-mastered) & Pete's All The Best Cowboys Have Chinese Eyes (original mix), plus an extra copy of Who's Last ( proof that I am an out of control Who freak :b ) at www.hmv.com . Who's Next & Chinese Eyes were both less than six bucks US$.

I don't think any of those are still in print in the USA.

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#20 of 37 Philip Hamm

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Posted July 22 2002 - 07:13 AM

What? Chinese Eyes was remixed? Why? Does the original sound better? Are there any bonus tracks on the new version that are any good?
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