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#1 of 128 Douglas Bailey

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Posted May 20 2002 - 11:32 AM

I just got my copy of the Limited Edition release of Memento today, and the menu navigation (especially on Disc 2, where the extras are) is mildly confusing, to say the least.

I've made up what I hope is a useful guide to navigating the DVD's menus.

(To simplify changes, I've moved the content to a page on my own web site: http://world.std.com...Memento_LE.html. It's much easier for me to make additions and corrections there.)

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#2 of 128 Matthew Chmiel

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Posted May 20 2002 - 11:43 AM

I think there are more features on disc two that still haven't been uncovered. The reviewer at DVD Talk mentions that he saw a menu screen which listed every special feature on the DVD.

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(N.B.: On my Panasonic RP-91, I can't chapter or speed forward or backward in this edit, but I can enter timecodes and jump to them.)

Same thing happens on the Pioneer DV-343 I tried the DVD on.


#3 of 128 Douglas Bailey

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Posted May 20 2002 - 11:49 AM

I think there are more features on disc two that still haven't been uncovered. The reviewer at DVD Talk mentions that he saw a menu screen which listed every special feature on the DVD.

I've added this menu screen to my guide (see above). Thanks for the prompt: I didn't even know to look for that feature.

And for the record, it's a long way from listing every feature. I'm not quite sure why they chose the five they did...

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#4 of 128 John Sturge

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Posted May 20 2002 - 12:37 PM

Thanks Douglas, that menu is an absolute bitch to get through most of the time. Clever and neat, but pretty darn annoying.

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#5 of 128 Christopher D

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Posted May 20 2002 - 03:59 PM

Great work -- thanks!

I think there are going to be a lot of highly ticked off people dropping into this thread tomorrow.

#6 of 128 Paul D G

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Posted May 20 2002 - 06:01 PM

Thanks for taking the time to make that webpage. I barely have enough time to watch movies at home anymore with an infant to care for, much less play with something like this just to watch a 10 minute feature-ette!

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#7 of 128 Mark Zimmer

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Posted May 21 2002 - 01:47 AM

This reminds me of the Monsters Crash the Pajama Party disc that had *nothing* accessible except through trial and error. I fucking hate that disc and there's no way I'm buying this Memento just to have to deal with that kind of bullshit. I'm not paying for a video game, I'm paying for a DVD and I expect to be able to get to the content I want to see. Leave that foolishness for the PlayStations.

#8 of 128 HenrikTull

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Posted May 21 2002 - 01:58 AM

Got my copy today. Thanks Douglas. If it weren't for you the second disc would've been flying out the window from the 8th floor 3 hours ago. Posted Image
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#9 of 128 Brian Cal

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Posted May 21 2002 - 04:23 AM

Last night I discovered that Christopher Nolan has recorded three separate commentaries for the final ten minutes of the film. However, after a frustrating amount of time trying to find how to access them manually, I still for the life of me cannot figure out how to access these other than at random. Any ideas?

#10 of 128 Moe Dickstein

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Posted May 21 2002 - 06:18 AM

And wasnt there supposed to be a chronological option?
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#11 of 128 HenrikTull

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Posted May 21 2002 - 06:20 AM

Just finished watching it actually... Yes, on my R1 LE!
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#12 of 128 Bryant Frazer

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Posted May 21 2002 - 06:34 AM

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This reminds me of the Monsters Crash the Pajama Party disc that had *nothing* accessible except through trial and error.

The new Memento disc sounds like a terrible hassle, but I just wanted to put in a good word for Monsters Crash the Pajama Party. I loved that disc. I guess it helped that I had no expectations about exactly what I would or would not see on it, but the features are short enough, for the most part, that I really enjoyed just sort of jumping around randomly with no idea at all what I'd see next.

But that's a lot different from a SE of a popular film that expects you to jump through hoops to see supplementary materials.

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Posted May 21 2002 - 07:17 AM

For me, this is what Collector's Editions are all about: unique from standard editions. If you don't care for the crazy stuff, buy the original version.
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#14 of 128 HenrikTull

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Posted May 21 2002 - 07:24 AM

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If you don't care for the crazy stuff, buy the original version.


Please don't. While the menus are a bitch, the transfer has been re -remastered to almost perfection and new this time is a DTS track that kicks the Dolby track's butt!
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#15 of 128 Jordan_E

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Posted May 21 2002 - 08:32 AM

I'm just referring to those who compare this to a Playstation game. Maybe it's the fact that I do play video games, but I didn't find it very hard to navigate through the discs. With special features seemingly being phased out due to either cost or the J6P influence, we should embrace something like this set!
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#16 of 128 Matthew Chmiel

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Posted May 21 2002 - 08:32 AM

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For me, this is what Collector's Editions are all about: unique from standard editions. If you don't care for the crazy stuff, buy the original version.

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I want the remastered video and the DTS track along with the chronological version of the film, but I don't want to access features by wasting my time by doing stupid little quizzes. I just wish Columbia/Tri-Star had two menu options for the second disc: regular menu (access all features via a plain menu) or the interactive menu.

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I'm just referring to those who compare this to a Playstation game. Maybe it's the fact that I do play video games, but I didn't find it very hard to navigate through the discs.

Can we get another Posted Image? I play video games myself, but all I want to do is watch a movie and access special features, not be involved in stupid little games just to access special features. I have no problem with disc one of the set, but disc two is where my problem lies as if I want to watch a trailer or what not, I just want to click on "trailer" and not go through three - five little quizzes.


#17 of 128 Jordan_E

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Posted May 21 2002 - 09:01 AM

Well, enjoy clicking on just a trailer, because if studios get enough flack for being inventive with discs, we'll be back to the early Disney-released DVDs where all you got were trailers.
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#18 of 128 Matthew Chmiel

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Posted May 21 2002 - 09:14 AM

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Well, enjoy clicking on just a trailer, because if studios get enough flack for being inventive with discs, we'll be back to the early Disney-released DVDs where all you got were trailers.

Posted Image I never said I wanted to click on just a trailer. I like interactivity, but I don't like it when I have to play games just to access special features. I have no problems with "little things" being easter eggs (like a trailer for another movie or DVD credits), but when I want to watch the movie or access a special feature, I just want to be able to go STRAIGHT TO it, and not through little quizzes.

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#19 of 128 Rob Lutter

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Posted May 21 2002 - 09:17 AM

I have to agree with Mr. Chmiel. This is a movie... not a video game.

Personally, if I buy something FOR the SPECIAL FEATURES... I want to be able to GET the special features without more effort on my part. From the sounds of this disc, it is making it a hassle to do the basic things (like find the trailer). There should at least be an OPTION to get around the games and right to the special features.

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#20 of 128 Brian Cal

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Posted May 21 2002 - 09:25 AM

I agree with both sides of this argument, but the chronological edit UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES should be available as a standard special feature.


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