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The official BLADE RUNNER SE thread. (Check out page 8 and #790.)


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#21 of 2829 OFFLINE   Robert Holloway

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Posted April 15 2002 - 03:26 PM

Some how -

every time I watch Blade Runner I lose the plot half way through and find myself running to the fridge for help.

I dunno, seen it a hundred times and it's always the same

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#22 of 2829 OFFLINE   Rob Tomlin

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Posted April 15 2002 - 03:30 PM

It amazes me how Blade Runner and the upcoming (eventually) DVD cannot be discussed without immediately reverting to people talking about the contents of the movie itself instead of the DVD!

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#23 of 2829 OFFLINE   Dharmesh C

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Posted April 16 2002 - 12:31 AM

If Ridley didn't tell us that
Deckard was a replicat
would we be even having this discussion?


#24 of 2829 OFFLINE   Micah Cohen

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Posted April 16 2002 - 04:11 AM

@#X!*&$@ !

I CAN NOT BELIEVE THAT THIS -- THE ULTIMATE DVD -- IS BEING DELAYED AGAIN! ARG, THIS IS SO FURSHLUGINGER FRUSTRATING!

I AM BEATING MY HEAD AGAINST MY KEYBOARD! RELEASE SOMEDAMNTHING, WILL YOU PLEASE, RIDLEY?!

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#25 of 2829 OFFLINE   Jack Briggs

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Posted April 16 2002 - 04:29 AM

Whew, Micah, my ears are ringing! Posted Image

Yeah, of course we're reverting to a discussion about the film itself--the thing's that polarizing. Somehow, Blade Runner is a great film in spite of itself.

Just wish this SE would get released. (Seth: Go ahead and get the current version. Why wait any longer? It will tide you over until the SE arrives--apparently, sometime, before the decade is out.)

#26 of 2829 OFFLINE   Charles de Lauzirika

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Posted April 16 2002 - 06:05 AM

Randy: I wish I could give you a full update and timeline, but it's just an ongoing process to make sure that it's done "right," and that most fans will be happy.

To everyone: Ridley is not the one behind any perceived "delay." If it were up to him, you'd be getting everything you wanted, and in a timely manner. Unfortunately, he doesn't own the film.

Jack mentioned that this has become "tiring." I agree. And so has the notion that state-of-the-art restorations of mishandled 20 year-old films and meaningful supplements can be cranked out at the drop of a fanboy's hat. And believe me, I say that as hardcore BR geek myself...someone who has been dreaming about this special edition since even before the advent of DVD.

In the meantime...have a better one.

#27 of 2829 OFFLINE   Patrick Larkin

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Posted April 16 2002 - 06:20 AM

Unfortunately, the "fanboys" don't care about legal issues, who's-getting-paid issues, or even "this is such a pain in the ass and so time consuming to restore" issues.

"Fanboys" want the films.

I really don't care either way. I'm satisfied with the DC.

I really cared about The Godfather, Citizen Kane, and 2001: A Space Odyssey. They managed to get them out in a reasonable timeframe.

#28 of 2829 OFFLINE   Michael Reuben

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Posted April 16 2002 - 06:22 AM

Quote:
at the drop of a fanboy's hat

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One of the things we former LD guys had to learn from the era of LD special editions -- where delays of a year weren't uncommon, and sometimes stretched into two or three -- was the virtue of patience. Posted Image

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#29 of 2829 OFFLINE   Zen Butler

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Posted April 16 2002 - 10:59 AM

Quote:
it's just an ongoing process to make sure that it's done "right," and that most fans will be happy.

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#30 of 2829 OFFLINE   Heinz W

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Posted April 16 2002 - 12:50 PM

Hey, I know exquisite transfers and mountains of supplements can't be "cranked out at the drop of a fanboys hat", but after about three postponements or so it DOES become tiresome. If you told me in 1999 or 2000 that this set wouldn't arrive until 2003 then fine; no problem. But being strung along for three years becomes irksome.

I'm also well aware that no official announcement was made, yet most of the better DVD sites are fairly reliable with their release info and if they report on possible release timeframes, especially regarding a high profile release like this, I tend to believe them to a certain extent.

I thought releasing The Day the Earth Stood Still in 2001, that films 50th anniversary, would have been cool. But I'm just estatic that it didn't because now we'll get a superior product, and I'll always prefer that of course. Posted Image

Charlie, thanks for responding and do let us know if you hear anything about this delay and keep up the excellent work!

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#31 of 2829 OFFLINE   Mick Wright

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Posted April 16 2002 - 01:37 PM

Quote:
If Ridley didn't tell us that
Deckard was a replicant
would we be even having this discussion?
Mr. Scott didn't say it quite like that. When asked "what is the implication of the unicorn dream sequence" he replied "that he's a
replicant."
He never said "Deckard is a
replicant.
Nothing he said destroys the ambiguity of the film.
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Posted April 17 2002 - 12:11 AM

Question for Charlie

The R2 website R2-dvd.org has a rumoured release date of november 18 here in the UK through Warner Brothers. Would it be that there different legal issues that prevent it from being released in region whie there is no problem in another region.

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#33 of 2829 OFFLINE   AnthonyL

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Posted August 05 2002 - 02:45 PM

So when can we expect a release date?
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#34 of 2829 OFFLINE   Randy Torres

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Posted August 05 2002 - 03:12 PM

Mick,

Since Deckard is the one having the Unicorn dream wouldn't it stand to reason that when scott say's
that he's a replicant
that he means
Deckard is a replicant
. just my thought.

#35 of 2829 OFFLINE   Jeff Kleist

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Posted August 05 2002 - 03:47 PM

A release date will be coming when Charlie is finished, and he and Ridley are happy with it

Given the greatness that is Legend UE, I'm happy to wait for it if that's the result. I believe Charlie has expressed their desire to include all 3 versions of the movie in the set

#36 of 2829 OFFLINE   Jay Sylvester

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Posted August 05 2002 - 04:56 PM

The mystery surrounding Deckard hasn't been a mystery for some time now. Ridley Scott revealed the truth a while ago in an interview for a British TV documentary.

For those who are dying to know:
Deckard is a replicant.

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#37 of 2829 OFFLINE   Jo_C

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Posted August 05 2002 - 05:05 PM

I can conject here that the delay has something to do with who owns the rights to the film.

Not to offend Charlie (who did a wonderful job on the LEGEND DVD), but here's what I know...

The film was released by the Ladd Company through WB, and until its initial video release had distribution rights. Embassy Pictures had a financial stake in the film, and originally held the video rights. Embassy eventually released the international version on cassette and the domestic theatrical cut on LaserDisc. Embassy also held the television rights (which were passed onto Columbia Pictures Television when Embassy's TV division was sold to Coca-Cola, the then-owners of Columbia).

When the director's cut was released in 1992 or so, WB bought back the rights to "Blade Runner", but only the rights to the director's cut. WB got full rights including television and home video.

Meanwhile, as we all know, Embassy consolidated into separate companies over the years, with the theatrical division becoming Nelson Entertainment (its library eventually passing from owner to owner--DeLaurentiis, ParaFrance Communication, and finally to its current partial owner, StudioCanal) and, as I just mentioned, the TV division becoming ELP Communications (as part of Coca-Cola, and currently part of Sony Pictures Entertainment).

It is quite possible that all other versions of "Blade Runner" (including the two seminal original 1982 theatrical versions) could now be owned by MGM and StudioCanal, which is why the original theatrical versions haven't been seen in years (although WB did make available the U.S. cut to television for a short time to the Sci-Fi Channel).

If that's so, then if the legalities change, we could see a "special edition" of "Blade Runner" on DVD soon via either MGM Home Entertainment or Anchor Bay Entertainment (both have home video output deals with StudioCanal).

A 3-DVD set would be nice, as it would contain SIX versions of the film (three on each disc via seamless branching--Disc A containing the upcoming "special edition" re-edit, the San Diego Preview, and a later rough cut; Disc B containing the International Theatrical version, the U.S. theatrical version, and the 1992 director's cut; and Disc C containing the BBC "making-of" documentary, supplements, trailers, outtakes, etc.)

Hope I'm making sense of all this...

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Posted September 14 2002 - 03:30 AM

I sure wish they would get on the ball and get this set out!
With the exception of Star Wars I want this one more than any other I think!

#39 of 2829 OFFLINE   David Lambert

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Posted October 10 2002 - 06:03 AM

Sorry to revive this old thread again, but this column about the issue seemed pertinent!

Comments about Karen's column. Anyone?
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#40 of 2829 OFFLINE   Brendon

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Posted October 10 2002 - 06:23 AM

David,

It would seem that Karen has expressed the same sentiment a number of us hold. Whilst I'm confident that Ridley Scott & company will be trying to get the very best disc out possible (Legend, Alien etc), it seems sad that other people involved in the film continue to have bad feeling towards it.

Harrison Ford rarely speaks of it, and was tellingly absent for Mark Kermode's documentary "On The Edge Of Blade Runner".

Have the problems that "(Found Vangelis) unable to release these recordings at the time" resurfaced ? (Quote from CD liner notes from Blade Runner - Vangelis).

There was also a sad rumour that contractual issues of some sort that precluded Sean Young from taking part in the documentary. Could this be part of the issue ? Royalties from the new cut of the film or supplimentary material ?

Like Karen and BR fanatics around the world, I do hope that whatever problems are holding this one back are resolved soon. Interest in the film is as strong and passionate as ever, barring it's initial release!

For those who haven't yet done so, I heartily recommend Paul M. Sammon's book Future Noir: The Making Of Blade Runner. Aside from being a nigh on definitive guide to the films conception, production, release and ongoing life, it makes for a fantastic account as to how films get made. Or nearly not.

Cheers,

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