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Lots in there there to like, but it's a little frustrating that the show appears to be doing another Alexandria-plotting-to-kick-Rick-out storyline. I thought that arc was satisfyingly resolved in the finale. When the show stays stationary in one location, it has a tendency to spin its wheels narratively. I hope that's not the case in Season 6.
 

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Sounds like Negan is a back seat this season and rises big time next, or at least pushed back in season. Still Alexandria fallout to deal with at least first half of this season.
 

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I thought the black and white flashbacks were pretentious as hell while watching, but the explanation on "Talking Dead" made sense. Initially they were going to desaturate the flashbacks and pump the saturation for the "present" scenes, but the oversaturated footage looked too cheerful for the show. So the black and white was a easy way to clearly differentiate the two timelines. I liked the way the flashbacks and the present days scenes played off each other.


Seeing Rick's epic plan to herd thousands upon thousands of walkers away from Alexandria, I felt like I was watching humanity discover animal husbandry for the first time. Of course, this being "The Walking Dead", nothing good can ever last for long so that giant horn at the end had to screw the plan all to hell, right after they'd gotten through the worst of it. Something tells me that the source of the sound starts with "W" and ends with "olves."


This was a great Rick examination episode, providing the audience a pretty comprehensive understanding of where his mind is at and where he draws the line.
 

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I was thinking it might have been better to find a way to kill all of the zombies while they were corralled up. Then I saw their plan was to herd them someplace...again I thought to destroy them easier. Then I find it was to just lead them away...still thought it might be better to kill them while corralled.

While I was not surprised Carter died. I was surprised he went in the first episode.
 

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Source of the horn?

("Funny Company" cartoon 1963- watch the intro on YouTube)
 

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"You can kill my husband, Rick...but you just can't talk to my son like that. I have to draw the line somewhere."




What a great episode.


I wish we had some semblance of what the end-plan was. A cliff? Lake of gasoline? Kind of wish they were leading them all into a gigantic drill or tractor, or any kind of meat-saw machine.


("A row of steamrollers to flatten the horde? Right off a bridge and into the Potomac River? Oh, snap, I bet they've modified a helicopter and the zombies will just stroll into its blades of death. Kirkman must've seen Fury Road over the break, and we're finally going over the top...")


Each premiere just gets more epic. I loved how action-packed the Season 5 finale was, and this one had quite a bit of action, but the grand scale more than made up for it, as opposed to just being 90 minutes of shooting and stabbing zombies in the head.
 

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Also, I watched a bit of Talking Dead after -- they did a viewer's poll on who was blowing the horn. "The Wolves" is the obvious answer, but they also had "The Son of the Husband Rick Killed," and I felt stupid for not even guessing that.


Maybe Gabriel -- he has a strong track record of amazing stupidity, and Rick snubbed him at every chance he could last night.
 

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Adam Lenhardt said:
I thought the black and white flashbacks were pretentious as hell while watching, but the explanation on "Talking Dead" made sense. Initially they were going to desaturate the flashbacks and pump the saturation for the "present" scenes, but the oversaturated footage looked too cheerful for the show. So the black and white was a easy way to clearly differentiate the two timelines.
I figured it was primarily a way to differentiate the current situation and flashbacks while also being a fun nod to the comic book. At first, I was thought they were underestimating the audience but there was enough flashbacks that it could have been confusing at some points.
 

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todd s said:
I was thinking it might have been better to find a way to kill all of the zombies while they were corralled up. Then I saw their plan was to herd them someplace...again I thought to destroy them easier. Then I find it was to just lead them away...still thought it might be better to kill them while corralled.

Yeah, it sure sounded like the plan was just to steer them towards whatever saps live down the road. It's kind of a theme of these Walking Dead shows to make up pretty assholey plans.


Zombies should be pretty dry, and wear dry, tattered clothes...why not just lob torches into the pit and let the enclosed space burn them en masse? Or at least have that be Plan A, and what we saw be Plan B?


Then again, I think the whole point was to avoid notice, either by other walkers or other surviving humans. Barbecuing 1,000+ walkers is going to raise a lot of smoke and stink and potential noise. Team Grimes wanted to get them out of the area and headed away where they'd likely eventually thin out.


But yeah, either way, it's a pretty big FUCK YOU-plan to any other surviving community west of Alexandria.
 

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joshEH said:
Then again, I think the whole point was to avoid notice, either by other walkers or other surviving humans. Barbecuing 1,000+ walkers is going to raise a lot of smoke and stink and potential noise. Team Grimes wanted to get them out of the area and headed away where they'd likely eventually thin out.

Exactly. I don't think they had enough ammo to take out all of the walkers that had accumulated in that quarry. And any method of mass destruction through incendiaries would only rile up the edges of the herd and make things more unmanageable.
 

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I wish they'd started with a flashback/B&W scene...I almost felt like I'd missed a whole episode while watching that first scene!
 

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Burning them should at least have been addressed re: yeah, that will attract too much attention. But, I also think they could have sent out some scouts west to see if they were sending the horde toward anyone living. I'm guessing the Wolves live there! The horn isn't so much a fuck you to Alexandria as it is a "hey, you send them toward us, we'll send them toward you!"


I also don't think we need 90 minutes to tell this story. How many glances of Morgan's trepidation do we really need? How many "I know you"'s? Does Morgan really not get that Carter had to be put down?


I loved Carol trying to be all coy with Morgan. She should be the one who kills him when he tries to take out Rick.


I also liked Rick's explanation of Carter and how he really wanted to kill him, but realized he was a walking dead man anyhow.
 

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I think it would have been just fine to show the episode in chronological order and skip the flashbacks. I think I would have preferred desaturated over the black and white, too - but in any case I thought it was an great premiere.
 

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Greg Kettell said:
I think it would have been just fine to show the episode in chronological order and skip the flashbacks. I think I would have preferred desaturated over the black and white, too - but in any case I thought it was an great premiere.
I heard that they tried sat/desat, but it ended up making the present day scenes look too bright and cheery
 

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Greg Kettell said:
I think it would have been just fine to show the episode in chronological order and skip the flashbacks.
I'd be interested in seeing it in chronological order and I'm guessing they may have even toyed with the idea all the way into editing but it probably took too long for the episode to really grab your attention. The totally lackluster cliffhanger to the previous season (which was an otherwise solid episode and season) meant that they would have been stuck starting the season at a pretty boring place if they hadn't jumped around.
 

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There are lots of shows where the use of non-linear storytelling is a pointless frustration. "Rick & Morty" made fun of this to savage effect in a recent episode.


But the season premiere wasn't one of those cases. The placement of flashbacks in this episode was very deliberate, with the flashback either directly commenting on the present day scene it was paired with or the present day scene commenting on the flashback.
 

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