Chuck Pennington
Screenwriter
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A friend recently sent me a VHS tape of the 1941 film MAJOR BARBARA. He wanted me to put it on DVD for him
as he said it was longer than the version Criterion released on DVD through their Eclipse line in a set titled "George Bernard Shaw on Film" (paired with CAESAR AND CLEOPATRA and ANDROCLES AND THE LION). I was skeptical, especially as the VHS was released on the Home Vision label with the Janus Films logo, familiar to anyone from many Criterion releases.
The first thing I noticed when comparing the VHS and DVD, other than very different music being used for the opening titles, was that the tape was a PAL conversion to NTSC with the 25fps speed-up built in. Once I reversed that, the running time of the VHS was over 136 minutes when compared to the 120 minutes of the DVD. What exactly was different? My friend didn't know, and I could find no information online about such a long version.
I compared the first 35 minutes and created a video showing scenes as they are on the DVD followed by the same scenes with footage from the VHS spliced in. Many scenes are assembled differently with alternate shots and angles, and there are also little to large trims everywhere. Aside from a splice where a few seconds are missing on the DVD (the same shot is intact on the VHS) and many other scenes where splices eat away at the dialog on the print used for the VHS, it seems to me that the VHS represents a less polished version as the trims so far serves to speed up the pace of the film. Why is there no information about this online?
One of the reasons I think this is an earlier cut is because of the scene with Wendy Hiller and Rex Harrison going up the staircase. In the VHS there is a cut to an alternate angle and additional dialog once they reach the top, whereas on the DVD there is a visible splice mark at the exact moment of the cut but the original shot confines, as if negative was put back later and a frame was lost.
I'm not sure if I'll continue my comparison as it took too much time for me last night to cover the first 35 minutes, but I thought some people here might find this of interest and have some thoughts.
Here is the comparison:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/0hew4jpy2y6yqvg/majorbarbaraalt.mp4?dl=0
as he said it was longer than the version Criterion released on DVD through their Eclipse line in a set titled "George Bernard Shaw on Film" (paired with CAESAR AND CLEOPATRA and ANDROCLES AND THE LION). I was skeptical, especially as the VHS was released on the Home Vision label with the Janus Films logo, familiar to anyone from many Criterion releases.
The first thing I noticed when comparing the VHS and DVD, other than very different music being used for the opening titles, was that the tape was a PAL conversion to NTSC with the 25fps speed-up built in. Once I reversed that, the running time of the VHS was over 136 minutes when compared to the 120 minutes of the DVD. What exactly was different? My friend didn't know, and I could find no information online about such a long version.
I compared the first 35 minutes and created a video showing scenes as they are on the DVD followed by the same scenes with footage from the VHS spliced in. Many scenes are assembled differently with alternate shots and angles, and there are also little to large trims everywhere. Aside from a splice where a few seconds are missing on the DVD (the same shot is intact on the VHS) and many other scenes where splices eat away at the dialog on the print used for the VHS, it seems to me that the VHS represents a less polished version as the trims so far serves to speed up the pace of the film. Why is there no information about this online?
One of the reasons I think this is an earlier cut is because of the scene with Wendy Hiller and Rex Harrison going up the staircase. In the VHS there is a cut to an alternate angle and additional dialog once they reach the top, whereas on the DVD there is a visible splice mark at the exact moment of the cut but the original shot confines, as if negative was put back later and a frame was lost.
I'm not sure if I'll continue my comparison as it took too much time for me last night to cover the first 35 minutes, but I thought some people here might find this of interest and have some thoughts.
Here is the comparison:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/0hew4jpy2y6yqvg/majorbarbaraalt.mp4?dl=0