Static IP? (1 Viewer)

Hi all....another question for the experts...I was going to the online setup for my Yamaha RX-A740 and couldn't connect to the IP that I had bookmarked the first time I went in. After rechecking the receiver info, my IP changed to a different number. I thought they were static address but maybe not? Or should I be locking into one somehow?

Thanks!!

Not that "we" are ignoring this...but the three usual suspects to answer this type of thread have been "absent" since Tuesday...you know the whole Thanksgiving thing...(I don't use Airplay. As the only Apple I have is iPad...and use every little iTunes since I switched to Spotify)

Thanks for the reply, Sam, and there're no issues with waiting for the suspects' return. I learned long ago that people weren't just waiting in line for my next "need". Lol.

By the way, I hope everyone else had a nice Thanksgiving as well!

There should be a way to change to a static IP in the Yamaha. There's nothing you have to do at the router.

Another option is to bookmark the network name instead of the IP. Then it does not matter if the IP changes.

Sorry I can't be more help as I've never had a Yamaha...

Unless you tell a device to use a specific address then it's more than likely going to be and remain DHCP. A device like your ARV or Printer that is always on can act like a static because they never give up their leases from the DHCP server. However, if you have a power outage all that can change. You can either set a static IP address into the device or you can set up a reservation if your router/gateway allows this. If your using your router for DNS you can use the name of the device if you know it but I think it's just as easy to bookmark the IP address. For devices that you connect to often with other devices it's worth setting a static IP address.

There should be a way to change to a static IP in the Yamaha. There's nothing you have to do at the router.

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I'm going to disagree on this one. My router (Verizon) will assign a different IP to every local device every time they come up (turn on) unless you tell it not to. Once you get that option in place, then your receiver will always have the same IP on the local network and you should be okay.

Note that this not the usual case of "static IP" you might google; that one has to do with the IP your provider assigns to you, and that does change (and it costs more to not have it change, but you don't need that kind of static IP).

Al, you router will only assign an IP for clients that ask for one. If you set a static IP at the client, the router will accept it (the IP you assign it has to be on the same subnet and not already in use). If you turn off DHCP at the router, than you have to assign an IP for every client.

Try it (or trust me, I'm a professional ).

David Willow said:

Al, you router will only assign an IP for clients that ask for one. If you set a static IP at the client, the router will accept it (the IP you assign it has to be on the same subnet and not already in use). If you turn off DHCP at the router, than you have to assign an IP for every client. Try it (or trust me, I'm a professional ).

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Agree. But make sure you assign a Static IP to the device that is OUTSIDE the range your DHCP assigns at the router. For example if your router is set to assign addresses 1-50 via DHCP, assign static IP's starting at 51 to individual devices. Otherwise things can get wonky.

Before that last thread snaps and I'm totally lost, maybe I should rephrase the question...is it necessary that I somehow incorporate some level of static IP? Not sure how I bookmark a network, as suggested by David, but it seems to me that this would accomplish the same thing unless I misunderstanding the concept there.

And I do appreciate all the responses, all.

atfree said:

Agree. But make sure you assign a Static IP to the device that is OUTSIDE the range your DHCP assigns at the router. For example if your router is set to assign addresses 1-50 via DHCP, assign static IP's starting at 51 to individual devices. Otherwise things can get wonky.

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I still disagree. The router is not going to assign an IP that is in use. Now if you assign and IP that is 'already' used (already assigned), then you will have an issue.

WeaserP said:

Before that last thread snaps and I'm totally lost, maybe I should rephrase the question...is it necessary that I somehow incorporate some level of static IP? Not sure how I bookmark a network, as suggested by David, but it seems to me that this would accomplish the same thing unless I misunderstanding the concept there.

And I do appreciate all the responses, all.

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The network name will resolve to the IP address even if it changes. The name is assigned in the Yamaha. If you cannot find it, and you are running Windows, you can get the name by opening a command prompt and typing "nslookup xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx" (replace the xxx with the Yamaha's IP address).

Ok, I do have the network name but, if set into my browser (like the IP address), I get nothing. How do I bookmark it? And I should probably add that we're working with an iMac.

David Willow said:

I still disagree. The router is not going to assign an IP that is in use. Now if you assign and IP that is 'already' used (already assigned), then you will have an issue.

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Yes as long as the device connected with a Static IP is always connected to the network. For example, if my tablet is assigned a Static IP within the routers DHCP and I take it to work with me, thereby taking it off the network, my son may come home and fire up his laptop and the router might assign MY Static IP since its not in use. Then when I return home with my tablet, I can't get my Static IP again because it was assigned to my sons laptop. It might not happen but it is possible. That's why I always use Static IP's outside of the routers DHCP range.

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Yes as long as the device connected with a Static IP is always connected to the network. For example, if my tablet is assigned a Static IP within the routers DHCP and I take it to work with me, thereby taking it off the network, my son may come home and fire up his laptop and the router might assign MY Static IP since its not in use. Then when I return home with my tablet, I can't get my Static IP again because it was assigned to my sons laptop. It might not happen but it is possible. That's why I always use Static IP's outside of the routers DHCP range.

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Good point.

WeaserP said:

Ok, I do have the network name but, if set into my browser (like the IP address), I get nothing. How do I bookmark it? And I should probably add that we're working with an iMac.

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The URL should look like "http://nameofavr"or "https://nameofavr". For example, I just tried this with my Denon. I can put http://0005CD38A74B or http://192.168.1.101 in the address bar and get to my receiver.

FYI - nslookup should work on the MAC as well (in the terminal). I'm not 100% certain of that but since it is based on BSD I'm guessing it will work.

Ok, the network name is "RX-A740 B51B3F". Entered it in with the pre of "http://" and "https://" and neither worked. Assumed the dash and the space were to be removed but also tried WITH the dash. However, I can still enter the actual IP address and connect.

I figured that the name wouldn't be that user friendly...hence the suggestion of the static IP address or a reservation in your DHCP server.

[*]If you can modify the scope of the DHCP server do so that you have a few statics available to you. Instead of starting your leases at 192.168.0.2 (example your scope may be different) start it at 192.168.0.10.
[*]Now set the yamaha to 192.168.0.4 or any other number in that range 192.168.0.2-9, 1 is usually the gateway/router. I'm assuming that you can modify the settings on the yamaha to allow a static.
[*]Once you have it set now all you have to do is input the IP address in a browser and bookmark it. It's going to the same from here on out.
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WeaserP said:

Ok, the network name is "RX-A740 B51B3F". Entered it in with the pre of "http://" and "https://" and neither worked. Assumed the dash and the space were to be removed but also tried WITH the dash. However, I can still enter the actual IP address and connect.

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My guess it that is not really the network name (the network name won't have spaces). I suggest either do as Tony suggests or find the real name with the nslookup command. There may be a way to get this info from your router as well (I am really not familiar with Apple so I have no idea how it is done).

Thanks for hanging with me on this, everybody, as I'm (obviously) a little out of my arena. I'll give the lookup a shot when I get home tonight and see where it goes.

Continuing on with a little more information that might help. If I go into the receiver, I get the following detail (with codes following the titles):
IP Address
Subnet Mask
Default Gateway
DNS Server (P)
DNS Server (S)
Mac Address
Network Name
Wireless
SSID

I tried to enter in the MAC Address with the http:// and https:// but that didn't work (unless I'm reading O's as 0's in error).

I'll continue to research how nslookup on a mac. I'll also "bump" the AirPlay" issue (apologies if that's not acceptable practice here) in hopes that someone might have thoughts on that as well. See that here: http://www.hometheaterforum.com/topic/336873-airplay-interruptions/