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What Bluray or 4K titles with Dolby Atoms or DTS UHD Audio would you like to see at the end of 2015 and 2016? Can also include previously released Bluray titles and titles that have not made it past DVD.

Are you planing on getting a 4K Blu-ray player or will you stick with 1080p Blu-ray?

Some movies that are not blockbusters or are not big special effect movies may end up being standard blu-ray purchases. I would like to see all these movies in the newest audio formats so that they are available to anyone that has upgraded there home theater.

Star Wars VII (In Theaters Dec 18, 2014) - 4K!
Star Trek 3[SIZE=14.3999996185303px] (TBA 2016) - 4K! With ether audio format.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=14.3999996185303px]The Avengers: Age Of Ultron (In Theaters May 1st, 2015)[/SIZE][SIZE=14.3999996185303px] - 4K! [/SIZE]
[SIZE=14.3999996185303px]X Men: The Days Of Future Past[/SIZE][SIZE=14.3999996185303px] - 4K! [/SIZE]
[SIZE=14.3999996185303px]Fantastic Four (In Theaters Aug 7, 2015)[/SIZE][SIZE=14.3999996185303px] - 4K! [/SIZE]
[SIZE=14.3999996185303px]Resident Evil: Rising (TBA 2015)[/SIZE][SIZE=14.3999996185303px] - 4K![/SIZE]
[SIZE=14.3999996185303px]Jurassic World (In Theaters June 12, 2015) - 4K![/SIZE]
[SIZE=14.3999996185303px]Transporter: Legacy (In Theaters March 6, 2015)[/SIZE][SIZE=14.3999996185303px] - 4K or Bluray ?[/SIZE]
Fast And Furious 7 (In Theaters April 3, 2015)[SIZE=14.3999996185303px] - 4K or Bluray ?[/SIZE]
Mad Max: Fury Road (In Theaters May 15, 2015) 4K!
Poltergiest (2015) (In Theaters July 24, 2015)[SIZE=14.3999996185303px] - 4K or Bluray ?[/SIZE]
Terminator: Genisys (In Theaters July 1, 2015) HELL YES, Can not wait for a new Terminator Movie :- ) 4K!
Mission Impossible V (In Theaters December 25, 2015) [SIZE=14.3999996185303px] - 4K or Bluray ?[/SIZE]
[SIZE=14.3999996185303px]James Bond 24 (In Theaters November 6, 2015)[/SIZE][SIZE=14.3999996185303px] 4K![/SIZE]
 

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My first Dolby Atmos title and I hope to have at least 10 before I get a Atmos system up and running!
 

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I'm curious to see if the bond and Star Trek films come to 4k Blu Ray in 2015. If bond is released in the format I will be moving to 4k as soon as possible.
 

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Michel_Hafner said:
Don't care about Atmos but would like to see all films with a 4K master on 4K BD. Starting with "Lawrence of Arabia" and "Elysium".
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While I would not mind the 1080p bluray set if I do not get around to buying a 007 set then I will be all over a 4K UHD bluray set! :D

The one problem with Atmos will be that only studios using Dolby True HD will offer Atmos so we will have to see if DTS is going to offer DTS UHD Audio or what ever they end up calling it. No matter if Atmos ends up surviving or not I will be getting into 4K video. I will be buying a receiver with 4K switching and Atmos since I will be buying a new receiver anyway. And then a 4K UHD Bluray player and there will have to be some new speakers in there as well. The final addition will end up being a 4K projector along with a minimum screen size of 120".
 

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Mind if I hijack this thread to talk about just 4K and our beloved Universal back catalog?

I've been giving some thought to how Universal plans to respond to the emerging 4K market. Assuming 4K adoption happens in a widespread way (meaning there are enough display and playback devices sold) will this finally force Universal to remaster their old library of films? There's no way they can continue to pass off the old DVD masters as 4K and not expect it to be noticed.

Now if the 4K market turns out to be more of a streaming thing, then I do not believe the target audience will notice/care what sources are used. :(
 

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Jeff Robertson said:
Mind if I hijack this thread to talk about just 4K and our beloved Universal back catalog?

I've been giving some thought to how Universal plans to respond to the emerging 4K market. Assuming 4K adoption happens in a widespread way (meaning there are enough display and playback devices sold) will this finally force Universal to remaster their old library of films? There's no way they can continue to pass off the old DVD masters as 4K and not expect it to be noticed.

Now if the 4K market turns out to be more of a streaming thing, then I do not believe the target audience will notice/care what sources are used. :(
4k is standard procedure now at big studios and for their catalog titles and Universal has shown that they can react to this with titles like High Plains Drifter or Vertigo.
They may possibly release some (or all 3 :D ) of their titles scanned in 4k to gauge interest and only if they sell like hotcakes I can see that they will make an additional effort to prepare more titles for 4k and I am 100% sure they won't as the sales simply won't be that good, they weren't even that good for Blu-ray.

So we will probably have to accept that 4k releases will be mainly a byproduct of studios routinely scanning their movies in at least 4k for digital asset preservation, not to cash in on an initially much too small 4k software market.

And in keeping with the title I have to ask which movies were finished in 4k and with a Dolby Atmos soundtrack in the last 2 years? Atmos usually means lot of action and CGI and that usually means they are finished in 2k. 4k is more common with comedies or catalog but those titles do not have or need Atmos soundtracks.

As much as I'd like LoA or Vertigo in 4k to name two examples I cannot really see them gaining a lot from an Atmos soundtrack...
 

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One of the other problems that will come up is that it seems most studios are using DTS-HD Master Audio on there releases so unless studios have a reason to start using Dolby again and encoding in Dolby True HD I am wondering if we will see many Dolby Atmos tracks. You would think that DTS is working on there own version of Atmos so no matter what we will have the option of Dolby or DTS for the over head channels for those who upgraded.

I feel many action/scifi movies with CGI and special effects will get 4K transfers so the special effects shots will look there best. I do not think they would use 4K only for comedies as that imho would be a waste. Personally I am looking forward to 4K movies and hope it at least takes off enough for studios to release 4K content.
 

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Jeff Robertson said:
Mind if I hijack this thread to talk about just 4K and our beloved Universal back catalog?

I've been giving some thought to how Universal plans to respond to the emerging 4K market. Assuming 4K adoption happens in a widespread way (meaning there are enough display and playback devices sold) will this finally force Universal to remaster their old library of films? There's no way they can continue to pass off the old DVD masters as 4K and not expect it to be noticed.
If they didn't remaster their catalog titles for 2K Blu-ray, which has a much larger market share than 4K Blu-ray has, or will have for years to come, why would they do it for 4K Blu-ray now? Resolution is not the reason why back catalog doesn't sell. I'm sure Universal sees the existing 2K releases as being perfectly fine for anyone who wants to remain with physical media.
Jeff Robertson said:
Now if the 4K market turns out to be more of a streaming thing, then I do not believe the target audience will notice/care what sources are used. :(
Correct. At best it'll be 4K streaming/digital download only for back catalog. Even then, I strongly suspect anything other than the tentpole catalog titles will probably remain in 2K for the foreseeable future.

By the way, if catalog titles are released in 4K digital download, they can easily beat Blu-ray quality. Let's stop with this false dichotomy of either high quality Blu-ray disc or low quality streaming - there are other options already available. For example, a 100GB 4K digital download of a title will beat a 30GB Blu-ray version in terms of quality.
 

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Persianimmortal said:
By the way, if catalog titles are released in 4K digital download, they can easily beat Blu-ray quality. Let's stop with this false dichotomy of either high quality Blu-ray disc or low quality streaming - there are other options already available. For example, a 100GB 4K digital download of a title will beat a 30GB Blu-ray version in terms of quality.
Indeed but unfortunately it seems that digital downloads are stuck in the middle between streaming and pyhsical media and they generally seem to get little love from customers.

Which is a shame as it would imo be a good compromise to get superior quality without too much of a commitment on behalf of the studios with regard to preproducing a certain run of discs, delivering them, handling returns etc.. Plus digital downloads could work with slower internet connections and for some time that might be a plus compared to streaming.
 

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OliverK said:
4k is standard procedure now at big studios and for their catalog titles and Universal has shown that they can react to this with titles like High Plains Drifter or Vertigo.
They may possibly release some (or all 3 :D ) of their titles scanned in 4k to gauge interest and only if they sell like hotcakes I can see that they will make an additional effort to prepare more titles for 4k and I am 100% sure they won't as the sales simply won't be that good, they weren't even that good for Blu-ray.

So we will probably have to accept that 4k releases will be mainly a byproduct of studios routinely scanning their movies in at least 4k for digital asset preservation, not to cash in on an initially much too small 4k software market.

And in keeping with the title I have to ask which movies were finished in 4k and with a Dolby Atmos soundtrack in the last 2 years? Atmos usually means lot of action and CGI and that usually means they are finished in 2k. 4k is more common with comedies or catalog but those titles do not have or need Atmos soundtracks.

As much as I'd like LoA or Vertigo in 4k to name two examples I cannot really see them gaining a lot from an Atmos soundtrack...
I think titles like "Hello Dolly! will benefit from both.
 

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At this point am not doing streaming and I do not see myself doing digital downloads as I do not see it as a value of any kind. Plus with the upcoming 4K movies taking up 70 - 100 gigs on a hard drive I do not have the money to build a media server when I would rather use the money to upgrade the HT system. It would be a plus if lossless was included on digital downloads but if they are going to to Dolby Digital Plus not a reason for me to download. I would rather have a physical disc that doesn't rely on a internet connection and I do not have do re download the collection when the hard drive dies.

I have seen Aliens presented in 2K and it looked very good on a movie screen and I have no doubt it would look good on a 50-80 screen at home. But since they are transferring new movies in 4K already and catalog movies will slowly be transferred in 4K for renting to cable stations they might as well create 4K UHD bluray discs IMHO. Granted I feel bluray took off a little slow but consumers caught on and there are lots of bluray players out there now and if disc sales are down it is in my opinion that people are buying less because of the economy not because they do not want to buy movies. I think that those of us ht enthusiast should make an effort to let others see what 4K video can do for them. Not by trying to talk them into it but by inviting friends and family to movie nights and just playing the content. Granted those who get into a projection set up will have the best results with 4K as the larger screens will show the resolution the best. But I think as time goes by and 4K content becomes more and more available that even 55 - 80 flat panels will prove they can show the benafits of 4K video.

I honestly can not wait for Terminator 5, Star Wars and the next Star Trek to be out on 4K Bluray as well as the latest X Men and Avengers movies. I would also like to see top notch new transfers of Gone With The Wind and Wizard Of Oz along with The King And I. And I would like to see a good 1080p and or 4K transfer of The Jazz Singer with Neil Diamond but who knows if and when that might happen.
 

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Not saying they should do it *now* but if/when 4K becomes widely available. Why would they respond to a 4K market? So they can continue to sell from their catalog, of course! I just do not see that happening with the existing source material.

I didn't mean to imply resolution has anything to do with their back catalog not selling. However, DNR, edge enhancement, and clumpy grain are good reasons why myself and a lot of enthusiasts refuse to purchase their Blu-Rays. And yes, I know we're a small segment of the consumer base, but when the next "big thing" comes (4K in some form), I do not see them being able to pull from the same sources to produce 4K content. So, I see this as hope that some day I will be able see old Universal titles equaling or exceeding the quality of rival studios.

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If they didn't remaster their catalog titles for 2K Blu-ray, which has a much larger market share than 4K Blu-ray has, or will have for years to come, why would they do it for 4K Blu-ray now? Resolution is not the reason why back catalog doesn't sell. I'm sure Universal sees the existing 2K releases as being perfectly fine for anyone who wants to remain with physical media.
 

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Jeff Robertson said:
Not saying they should do it *now* but if/when 4K becomes widely available. Why would they respond to a 4K market? So they can continue to sell from their catalog, of course! I just do not see that happening with the existing source material.
Again, there are two factors working against your assumption - in my opinion of course, given none of us can actually see into the future:

Firstly, you're assuming that the physical disc will be of any true relevance in the 4K era. By the time 4K becomes mainstream (i.e. in several years), I doubt any studio will feel any pressing need to issue anything but the latest releases on 4K Blu-ray. They will, quite logically, expect that DVD and 2K Blu-ray will service existing catalog customers who are physical disc holdouts. The clear movement is towards full digital distribution.

Secondly, you assume that Universal, or any other studio, needs to upgrade their catalog to 4K in order for it to look acceptable on a 4K screen. The simple fact that it's taken years for studios to upgrade even their major catalog titles from DVD to Blu-ray (i.e. from 480p to 1080p) means that I can't imagine that they see any need to upgrade the bulk of their catalog to 2160p. The vast majority of catalog consumers have clearly demonstrated that they think upscaled 480p looks fine on 1080p displays (80% of catalog sales are still on DVD), so it stands to reason that said consumers are hardly going to be upset by watching 1080p upscaled to 2160p.

I don't want to be a debbie downer, but I don't see much hope of having most catalog titles properly mastered in 4K. Big name catalog titles like the Indiana Jones and Star Wars series, Jaws, Lawrence of Arabia, Gone With The Wind, 2001 etc. - yes, I think those will get a proper 4K treatment, and will probably even be released on physical disc at some point, even if it's via a third party licensing deal. But the bulk of catalog titles I see languishing in 2K for the foreseeable future, especially as the catalog market continues to dry up.
 

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I think the first batch of titles released should be of movies that will benefit from both the 4k resolution as well as the Dolby Atmos sound system -- and will entice people (like me) to actually upgrade their home theatre systems to watch these movies properly.

With that in mind, for me, one title that could have its premiere in this entirely new format would be the restoration of "The Alamo" -- along with "2001 A Space Odyssey" and perhaps a number of their classic musicals, "Heavens Gate", assorted Pink Panther, James Bond and Rocky movies, MGM would be one of the studios that would greatly benefit from these new releases.

Also a number of other movies from an earlier era would benefit from a Dolby Atmos remix would include "The Towering Inferno", "The Poseidon Adventure" (not "Earthquake" as the sound has to come from above) perhaps "Top Gun" to coincide with the sequel hitting theatres, which could be....any time!
 

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While 1080p looks very good on my 4K display I wouldn't say that 480p holds up that well from title to title. When transfers are done well the 1080p format looks good on 4K displays. But personally since the studios are mastering new movies in 4K and as they move forward I am sure older titles will be scanned at 4K, why not make them available in 4K. While 2K content would look good when done correctly and not overly compressed for streaming, what would be the point of releasing 2K when the entire point is to try and get people to buy 4K displays. Personally I did not buy a 4K display to buy 2K content! I see no value in buying content that is played off a server somewhere no matter if it is 480p, 1080p, 1536 (2K) or even 2160 (4K). Especially if the best we will get on the audio side is Dolby Digital Plus. Now if we end up not getting very many titles in Dolby Atmos I can live with it because I have not yet invested in the equipment for it. What I want to see is for content to be continued to be delivered in lossless audio even for those streaming and if they give people a choice between lossy Dolby Digital Plus and lossless that is fine. I guess I have had enough of the movie upgrade ride and what I would like is for full theater quality 4K video that will be the full resolution of 35mm theatrical film. And building up the kind of storage space I would need for a large scale 2K and 4K library is not something I really want to undertake. I have been into computers long enough to know that hard drives are very unpredictable and even more so when you get into solid state drives. Now when a optical player takes a dump you go to the store or order one online and hook it up and your good to go. Not so easy when your movie collection on your media server is lost because the hard drive failed and you have to go back and down load each and every title to get back where you where before the drive crashed. Not to mention when movie downloads become the norm if the physical media dies you can bet hackers will create viruses that wipe out media stored on the hard drive. I am all for supporting physical media and IMHO physical media is still the best way to go since the average person still doesn't have a fast enough internet connection to stream 4K content. It would be damaging for the format and to equipment manufacturers if studio's where to push 2K transfers instead of offering top notch 4K transfers. I am sure that many people get tired of buying movies over and over and that takes a big investment over all to go an replace media, especially when we are talking a large library of movies. I can only speak for myself when I say that I am sure that for myself 4K will be the last step and the last format I want to do. I am going to be 50 in about 2 weeks and while I want to upgrade to a Atmos system with 4K switching and to not only have a 4K delivery system from source to display. But to purchase a 4K projector and a screen of 120" - 160", this is my end goal. I have been in upgrade mode/ library building mode since dvd's and it takes a toll when finances are limited but I am proud of the results I have accomplished even with the financial limitations. At some point for myself I have to say this is more than good enough and spend money to see and go places I have not been able to go yet in my life.

So finishing up with that I would go as far as saying IMHO 4K could very well be as far as people will want to go. That doesn't mean that the technology will not move forward to formats like 8K. And the only thing I can think that would be great about 8k is for 3D and having dual 4K images to make a really clean 3D movie. I see no reason why 4K can not become the industry standard and for them to keep it for 20 years or more. And getting back to those who want or think digital delivery systems will over take physical media. Not only does the average consumer not have a fast enough internet connection but many consumers ether do not have computers in there homes or fast enough computers for 2K and or 4K delivery. So physical media is still the best way to deliver 4K content IMHO.

My next upgrades:
New surround receiver with Dolby Atmos, DTS UHD Audio if available and 4K video switching
4K UHD Bluray Player
New center channel speaker
New surround speakers
New ceiling speakers for Atmos
Last upgrade: 4K UHD Video Projector with 120" - 160" screen

My 4K want list 10/23/2014
Movies in theaters 2014
Interstellar
[SIZE=14.3999996185303px]The Hunger Games: Mockingjay Part 1[/SIZE]
[SIZE=14.3999996185303px]The Hobbit: The Battle Of The Five Armies[/SIZE]

[SIZE=14.3999996185303px]Movies in theaters [/SIZE]2015
Star Wars VII
X Men: Age Of Altron
Jurassic World
Resident Evil 6
The Transporter Legacy
Mad Max: Fury Road
Terminator: Genisys
The Hunger Games: Mockingjay Part 2
Mission Impossible 5
Kungfu Panda 3
The Fantasic 4
London Has Fallen
Fast And Furious 7
Poltergeist
James Bond 24 (To Be Named)

[SIZE=14.3999996185303px]Movies in theaters [/SIZE][SIZE=14.3999996185303px]2016[/SIZE]
[SIZE=14.3999996185303px]X Men Original: Deadpool[/SIZE]
[SIZE=14.3999996185303px]Ben Hur ?[/SIZE]
[SIZE=14.3999996185303px]Batman VS Superman: Dawn Of Justice[/SIZE]
[SIZE=14.3999996185303px]Beverly Hills Cop[/SIZE]
[SIZE=14.3999996185303px]The Huntsman[/SIZE]
[SIZE=14.3999996185303px]X Men: Apocalypse[/SIZE]
[SIZE=14.3999996185303px]Independence Day 2[/SIZE]
[SIZE=14.3999996185303px]The Mummy[/SIZE]
[SIZE=14.3999996185303px]Ice Age 5[/SIZE]
[SIZE=14.3999996185303px]The Bourne Legacy 2[/SIZE]
[SIZE=14.3999996185303px]Planet Of The Apes 3[/SIZE]
[SIZE=14.3999996185303px]Avatar 2[/SIZE]
[SIZE=14.3999996185303px]The Sandman[/SIZE]
Untitled Boba Fett Movie
Star Trek 3

Existing Titles
American Graffiti 1973
Star Wars 1-6
Lord Of The Rings Trilogy EE
Star Trek 1-10
Indiana Jones and the Lost Ark
Air Force One
Apocalypse Now
42
Force 10 From Navarone
James Bond 23 Movie Set
Finding Forester
Highlander
The Longest Day
The Good The Bad And The Ugly
Unforgiven
Play Misty For Me
Two Mules For Sister Sara
Paint Your Wagon
In The Line Of Fire
Wizard Of Oz
Gone With The Wind
The King And I
Blood Work
Absolute Power
Gran Torino
The Godfather
Psycho
Ben Hur 1959
The Exorcist
Jaws
Alien Quadrilogy
Terminator
Terminator 2: Judgement Day
Full Metal Jacket
Mad Max
The Silence Of The Lambs
Schindler's List
The Matrix
Saving Private Ryan
Gladiator
 

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Unfortunately new movies are with few exceptions mastered in 2K, not 4K. Often because of special effects work being used a lot and producing them in 4K is considered too expensive.
 

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Since I do not have all 4 Lethal Weapons in HD yet and the one I have is not in lossless I will hold off to hopefully have the Lethal Weapon series in 4K!
 

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