Plasma is dead.LG no more.
Greatest joke post...ever.nigel19 said:I'm glad plasma is gone .I never liked the quality of the images so went for Panasonic LCD in 2008.I then got an LED in 2012 just as Panasonic released their first ever 3D sets under 42".I thought the LCD was good but the LED was even better.I decided to change the set to a larger screen so it meant having to go plasma at the time . This was Panasonic too.Oh dear.Having been blown away by the clarity and detail of Blurays I found myself checking to see I actually had a Bluray on when viewing the plasma.I don't know why but 30 minute viewing and my wife got a headache . I also found it was not possible to set the brightness and contrast to levels I was happy with - So it went back and my LED returned.Cut to earlier this year and I finally decided to get a 42" as Panasonic didn't do 3D for 37" anymore.I compared some side by side displays of LED and plasma and it was easy to see why nobody was buying plasma . The quality was not very good.The new Panasonic I got was a smart tv with 600hz backlight , 3d etc and it is incredible .The HD detail is even more visible than with the previous set .The only reason I can see people sticking with plasma is because it's what they're used to.The old days of motion problems with LCD are long gone .My sister in law still has a 50" Panny plasma and the pictures are as bad as they were when she bought it several years ago.To me , the whole point of a flat screen was to view HD and as the wow factor was gone from my demo Blurays on the plasma screen it seemed pointless to keep it.
LED and LCD are one and the same but use different techniques to achieve better black levels, you will always find such sets marketed in shops and online as LED but i find that to be false advertising, i always call them LCD.nigel19 said:I'm glad plasma is gone .
I never liked the quality of the images so went for Panasonic LCD in 2008.
I then got an LED in 2012 just as Panasonic released their first ever 3D sets under 42".
I thought the LCD was good but the LED was even better.
I decided to change the set to a larger screen so it meant having to go plasma at the time . This was Panasonic too.
Oh dear.
Having been blown away by the clarity and detail of Blurays I found myself checking to see I actually had a Bluray on when viewing the plasma.
I don't know why but 30 minute viewing and my wife got a headache . I also found it was not possible to set the brightness and contrast to levels I was happy with - So it went back and my LED returned.
Cut to earlier this year and I finally decided to get a 42" as Panasonic didn't do 3D for 37" anymore.
I compared some side by side displays of LED and plasma and it was easy to see why nobody was buying plasma . The quality was not very good.
The new Panasonic I got was a smart tv with 600hz backlight , 3d etc and it is incredible .
The HD detail is even more visible than with the previous set .
The only reason I can see people sticking with plasma is because it's what they're used to.
The old days of motion problems with LCD are long gone .
My sister in law still has a 50" Panny plasma and the pictures are as bad as they were when she bought it several years ago.
To me , the whole point of a flat screen was to view HD and as the wow factor was gone from my demo Blurays on the plasma screen it seemed pointless to keep it.
Movies on my Plasma look like movies. Movies on LCDs, at friends and family, look like soap operas. Is this fixed in more recent LCD TVs?nigel19 said:I'm glad plasma is gone .I never liked the quality of the images so went for Panasonic LCD in 2008.I then got an LED in 2012 just as Panasonic released their first ever 3D sets under 42".I thought the LCD was good but the LED was even better. ... To me , the whole point of a flat screen was to view HD and as the wow factor was gone from my demo Blurays on the plasma screen it seemed pointless to keep it.
In my experience with Samsung LCDs and LED LCDs, yes. They often come with the various auto motion/"soap opera" look functions turned on, so it takes a couple minutes to go in the menus and turn all of that stuff off, I think on my 2009 Samsung it was called "Auto Motion Plus", once I turned that and edge enhancement off, it was fine.DaveF said:Movies on my Plasma look like movies. Movies on LCDs, at friends and family, look like soap operas. Is this fixed in more recent LCD TVs?
You can switch the interpolation features off on most televisions but the viewing angles still suck and the way most of them, not all, improve their blacks still suck. I'm too late, Josh beat me to the post by a cat's whisker.DaveF said:Movies on my Plasma look like movies. Movies on LCDs, at friends and family, look like soap operas. Is this fixed in more recent LCD TVs?
The manufacturers turn a lot of crap on by default because they think it makes their televisions stand out in the shop displays, people see garish overblown colours, brightness jacked up way too high, exaggerated sharpness and contrast and equate it with quality, i don't understand why but they do, even my plasma came with features you want switched off enabled.DaveF said:What are those modes for? Why are they turned on by default?
Because LCD was never intended for motion to begin with.It needs gimmicks and tricks.DaveF said:What are those modes for? Why are they turned on by default?
Sorry Malcolm! Did I win anything?FoxyMulder said:I'm too late, Josh beat me to the post by a cat's whisker.
They think we like them. (insert eye-rolling smiley here) I think Malcolm's right, the manufacturers think it helps the TVs stand out when they're displayed in the store. And some people like these functions, while a lot of others just don't notice that they've been turned on or are indifferent to them. I've noticed at friends and family members houses, and either they never noticed in the first place, or they kinda like it.DaveF said:What are those modes for? Why are they turned on by default?
An i1 Display Pro 3 colorimeter and a copy of Chromapure.Josh Steinberg said:Sorry Malcolm! Did I win anything?
I'll take it!FoxyMulder said:An i1 Display Pro 3 colorimeter and a copy of Chromapure.
A bit harsh, but true. Displaying motion on any LCD - and yes, LED is simply an LCD TV with an LED backlight instead of a CCFL backlight, nothing more - is inherently different to plasma. I wrote an HDTV article a few years ago which tries to cover this in relatively straightforward terms, see this page of the article to understand why they differ.schan1269 said:Because LCD was never intended for motion to begin with.
It needs gimmicks and tricks.