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#1 of 12 OFFLINE   Bryan^H

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Posted August 20 2014 - 06:22 PM

I guess I'm not surprised. Streaming game service for the PS4 -Playstation Now-is about all the "backward compatibility" we are going to get. First things first. I will never use this service. Ever. To play classic games from the early days of Playstation to fairly recent games as a streaming rental is not my idea of progress. I love Resident Evil: Code Veronica, and I own it for the Sega Dreamcast, and bought it again for the PS2. On PSNow, I can rent it from $2.99 for four hours, up to 90 days for $14.99.

No thanks. I will support the PS4 for all the upcoming games I want to own, not rent. My classic games it seems will be played on their designated systems.

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#2 of 12 OFFLINE   Morgan Jolley

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Posted August 21 2014 - 07:04 PM

Bryan - with the specific example of RE: CVX, it's actually an HD re-release.  It's not quite the original DC or PS2 game.  There are actually no PS1 or PS2 games on PSNow as of yet, though rumor has it that a PS1/PS2 emulator app is coming for PS4 that will allow PS4 to play those games right off discs.

 

The crazy thing is that taken in general terms, PSNow is not really that expensive.  You can pay like $5 to rent a movie for 24 hours on-demand through your cable box, but people flip out when Sony has the gall to ask for, in some cases, something like $5 for a week of play time.  The issue is looking at games as a product (box, digital, whichever) or as a service.  PSNow treats them as a service.  Yes, you can go buy some games on PS3 for the same or less than the PS Now 90-day prices, but that requires having a PS3, which a sizable chunk of PS4 owners don't have.  Additionally, say you want to try a game and there's no demo available, you could pay a few bucks, play the first few hours of a game, and decide you do or don't like it.  It's the same as buying the first 2 episodes of a show on Amazon but not buying the rest of the season.

Games are still treated differently from movies and TV shows for some reason.  Personally, I agree that the PS Now pricing isn't that great, but I also have my PS3 (and PS2 and PS1 and so on) so I don't NEED to use it.  However, if the PS4 was the ONLY gaming system I ever bought, I didn't care about owning games, and I was able to finish a game in 30 days or less, then PS Now is not a terrible option.  Arguably, it's like a more instant version of GameFly, minus mail issues, games not being in stock for a long period of time, and no option to keep your game if you like it.

 

My friend's soon-to-be father-in-law loves gaming.  He has an Xbox One, PS4, Xbox 360, PS3, and a PC.  He uses GameFly.  He pays $15/month, regardless of how fast or slow he finished games (he's retired, so its pretty fast), and he kind of hates the issues that come with it.  He would be the ideal candidate for something like PS Now.



#3 of 12 OFFLINE   Morgan Jolley

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Posted August 21 2014 - 07:05 PM

Also, I just want to throw out the irony of a bunch of people complaining about $15 to play a game for 90 days on their $400 machines sitting in their multi-$1000s of dollars HT rigs.  I mean...it's just a few bucks.



#4 of 12 OFFLINE   Carl Johnson

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Posted August 21 2014 - 07:19 PM

I don't have a problem with the concept of paying to download games, but $15 for 90 days is not an appealing price point. For $15 I expect to keep it permanently.

I've downloaded multiple classic titles for my Xbox, each of which has been $15 or less and none of them came with an expiration date.

#5 of 12 OFFLINE   Bryan^H

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Posted August 21 2014 - 07:31 PM

 There are actually no PS1 or PS2 games on PSNow as of yet, though rumor has it that a PS1/PS2 emulator app is coming for PS4 that will allow PS4 to play those games right off discs.

 

 

 

If that happens, PS4 will be my favorite system.  

 

I have never been much for rentals, especially, and most importantly video games(If I'm [playing it, I own it).  That is the main reason I'm so sour on PSNow.  It just isn't my thing.


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Posted August 22 2014 - 01:29 AM

Not my idea of progress, but even if it worked well which I remain very skeptical of, I think bandwidth caps and their price points will keep it from being embraced. 
 

Bryan - with the specific example of RE: CVX, it's actually an HD re-release.  It's not quite the original DC or PS2 game.  There are actually no PS1 or PS2 games on PSNow as of yet, though rumor has it that a PS1/PS2 emulator app is coming for PS4 that will allow PS4 to play those games right off discs.

 

It's the PS3 version. As far as I know, all Playstation Now releases so far are PS3 games. 



#7 of 12 OFFLINE   Morgan Jolley

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Posted August 22 2014 - 02:03 PM

I'm not a big fan of rentals, either.  But then again...I'm not the target PS Now audience, now am I?

 

The reason for the crazy pricing and it being rental-only is because the streaming service continuously costs money and needs to be paid for as it is used.  They can't charge $15, let you keep the game, and then have the service turned on forever just so you can play it.  The idea of paying one price one time to own a game through a streaming service also begs the question of what would happen if they turn the service off.  To skirt that, it is a rental system.

What will be really cool is when they let you buy a PS4 game, it downloads in the background, but you start playing immediately on PS Now.

 

LeoA - you'd be surprised at how well the system works.  I was in the closed beta and tried it out.  Not perfect and only stereo sound, but it was surprisingly great.

Carl - the PS4 is incapable of playing PS3 games, so paying to download and own is not an option.  PS Now is an attempt to let gamers play PS3 games on their PS4 and get around the issue.



#8 of 12 OFFLINE   Russell G

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Posted August 25 2014 - 11:06 AM

I think the $15 price point is too high as well. i totally see where you're coming from Morgan, and I don't disagree with you. It just seems expensive. It would be much more appealing if it was an extra $10 or $15 per month spread out on your PS+ subscription, and you could play any game, anytime you want to.

 

Which is what I thought it was going to be when they were talking about a "Netflix for games" prior to the launch. this variation just seems limited.

 

Then again, I'm still waiting for PS3 style media support before buying a PS4 ha ha.



#9 of 12 OFFLINE   Sam Posten

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Posted August 25 2014 - 12:35 PM

I am not as hyped on the actual in use experience as Morgan was and I too was in the free beta.

It was laggy, ugly and meh at best, I didn't and wouldn't put much time on it if it were free.

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#10 of 12 OFFLINE   Morgan Jolley

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Posted August 28 2014 - 12:12 PM

I thought the performance of the service was surprisingly great.  The only glaring issue was the lack of surround sound.  Even input lag was more than tolerable.

 

That said, I only used it BECAUSE it was free.  I'm not hyped on the experience for myself but rather for the possibilities for Sony to share this stuff with people who didn't own a PS3.  A good chunk of PS4 owners did not own a PS3 so they can only play PS3 games through PS Now. I agree that it would be great if they could offer games in a $10/month-gives-you-everything system but we can all kind of understand why that won't happen.  The closest would be something like EA Access but with streamed games and for each company or in certain bundles.

If you think about it, how often do you go back to a game after you've completed it?  I'm talking about a game like, say, Tomb Raider or Assassin's Creed.  Great games, totally worth playing, but after a month or so you probably won't touch them again.  So why pay $15 for a used or old copy for PS3 when you can pay like $10 to get it instantly on your PS4?  You're not paying for the product but rather the experience.  The argument against PS Now is similar to one against going to the movies; you don't get to walk away with a copy of the movie to watch again and again, so why would you pay the same price (we'll say $25 for 2 tickets vs. $25 for a bluray) for just a singular experience?

The bigger issue for me, looking at PS Now, is the fact that some games will never ever be on the service, like Rock Band, and no DLC content will ever be supported.  If they can somehow give you the "Game of the Year" versions of games then that would be awesome.

I also think that this tech is going to be the foundation for letting people play PS5+ games on PS4 or other devices.  The PS4 already uses the same streaming tech to play games on Vita, so I can see Sony selling games as services (if people want that; you could also just buy a PS5) down the line.  Imagine all you need is a controller, SOE account, and a Bravia TV in order to play the latest games on demand at a moment's notice.  Should they implement the supposed cloud TV/DVR service they're working on, we're looking at some awesome stuff.



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Posted August 28 2014 - 01:07 PM

 

I thought the performance of the service was surprisingly great.  The only glaring issue was the lack of surround sound.  Even input lag was more than tolerable.

 

It all depends on your connection, which is one of the problems here. 



#12 of 12 OFFLINE   Sam Posten

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Posted August 29 2014 - 06:14 AM

I have folios 50/35 and it was still shitty. There's a LOT more than just your own ISP at play. CDNs, Sony's network, ISPs and more.

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