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TMG: THE NAME OF THE GAME: SEASON 1 8/19/2014


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#121 of 131 OFFLINE   Neil Brock

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Posted November 21 2014 - 07:32 AM

Yeah, and I still can't believe Brian Ward said that they had the rights to all eight seasons of Ironside.

 

  Brian Ward had proven to be either a liar or a know-nothing, probably both. You can't base anything on what he says about anything. Even if they did have the rights to all 8 seasons of Ironside, they aren't going to keep releasing a series that they are losing more and more money on with each subsequent release.


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#122 of 131 OFFLINE   Neil Brock

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Posted November 21 2014 - 07:35 AM

Can Run For Your Life be far behind?

 

   I would love to see a nice release of RFYL but it was a co-production between Roncom (Perry Como's company) and Universal and the split rights may make it problematic.



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Posted November 21 2014 - 08:14 AM

Even if they did have the rights to all 8 seasons of Ironside, they aren't going to keep releasing a series that they are losing more and more money on with each subsequent release.


This is certainly right, and fair enough, but I do think that Ironside would have fared better had Shout picked it up now, rather than when they did. Their recent practices of issuing complete series sets before individual seasons and of fast tracking dramas of that era would have been beneficial to Ironside, as opposed to the slow drip of releases and their diminishing returns.

Also, Madman in Australia found a way to make it profitable enough to release the whole series. Does Universal charge American licensing companies that much more for each title? If they do, it's obviously a mistake for them.

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Posted November 21 2014 - 10:29 AM

This is certainly right, and fair enough, but I do think that Ironside would have fared better had Shout picked it up now, rather than when they did. Their recent practices of issuing complete series sets before individual seasons and of fast tracking dramas of that era would have been beneficial to Ironside, as opposed to the slow drip of releases and their diminishing returns.

Also, Madman in Australia found a way to make it profitable enough to release the whole series. Does Universal charge American licensing companies that much more for each title? If they do, it's obviously a mistake for them.

 

I agree with you on this. Shout! has finally figured out that the best way to release a classic series is to do a complete set, rather than stall it out with individual season releases. This would definitely benefit Ironside.



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Posted November 21 2014 - 11:59 AM

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  Brian Ward had proven to be either a liar or a know-nothing, probably both. You can't base anything on what he says about anything. Even if they did have the rights to all 8 seasons of Ironside, they aren't going to keep releasing a series that they are losing more and more money on with each subsequent release.

 

Ward has been caught in one lie after another over the years, yet people continue to sing both he and his company's praises unconditionally. One online "critic" (the same one who watched the first release of the second season of THE FUGITIVE and never once noticed that the music had been replaced) actually said that Shout was unquestionably the BEST company to ever release vintage TV on DVD. They've had their successes, no doubt, but they've had failures too and many overlook that.


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#126 of 131 OFFLINE   HenryDuBrow

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Posted November 21 2014 - 02:30 PM

With WKRP - the show no one thought could happen in an acceptable manner - they came through.



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Posted November 21 2014 - 03:53 PM

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One online "critic" (the same one who watched the first release of the second season of THE FUGITIVE and never once noticed that the music had been replaced) actually said that Shout was unquestionably the BEST company to ever release vintage TV on DVD.

 

Not familiar with that review, but I bet I can guess who did it. Are his initials PM?

 

Shout's attention to detail is worst than their honesty. They make far too many amateurish mistakes to ever proclaim them as the best in this business.

 

Which is a shame since they've put out a solid catalog of classics, are one of the few companies still doing so today, and they're fully capable of doing their jobs well with the resulting product being something that pleases almost everyone. 

 

But instead, every time we get excited about a new release from them, we're left with concern about what it's going to be this time around.


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Posted November 21 2014 - 04:12 PM

Mavis sometimes does some good reviews (and I appreciate the fact that he is there as a counterweight to certain other critics especially one with the initials SB) but on Fugitive he was indeed off-base.
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Posted November 21 2014 - 07:35 PM

I also like that he provides a healthy selection of screenshots, multiple season reviews for the same show aren't just copy/paste jobs, and he at least spends a bit of time on something other than just summarizing the basis of the show.

 

For instance, how many people looking up a review for I Love Lucy at DVDTalk aren't familiar with the show? They're there to find out about the quality of the transfers on the discs, the packaging, bonus materials, etc.

 

But he sure has some strange ideas at times. 


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Posted November 22 2014 - 11:22 AM

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I sent him a letter of praise once and he enthusiastically replied. Sent him at least seven letters politely correcting mistakes in his reviews and not a single response, much less a retraction. I'm done with him.

 

But back on topic: As I've posted before, I'm sincerely hoping THE NAME OF THE GAME gets a whole series release rather than season by season, but not sure where TMG stands on such proposals right now. They have certainly released and re-released complete series in the past, but went season by season for THE BIG VALLEY and ZANE GREY THEATER. Those were started by other studios so that may be a factor, but ALIAS SMITH AND JONES was also initiated by another studio and Timeless wound up with a complete series release for that. I personally don't think a single season of THE NAME OF THE GAME is the way to go as the remaining seasons may be a tough sell for newbies who might not have cared for the first season. If they have the resources at hand, just do the complete package now. Dragging out releases for such an old, relatively forgotten, non-western show with individual season sets is asking for trouble.


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Posted November 22 2014 - 05:24 PM

I sent him an email after one of his Adam-12 reviews. He had done his usual "I think they've cut the conclusions off each of these episodes" routine and then asked for input from those that were more familiar with the show.

 

I sent him a polite email to clarify that they were indeed complete, worded just as I interact with you guys. In return, I received a rant and the DVDTalk review was edited minutes later to remove that line. He substituted what's in parenthesis below instead...

 

"I'm pretty sure these transfers are missing the final wrap-up tags that were routinely snipped for syndication (Adam-12 expertshave emailed...and they all claim the guys on the other side of their arguments are wrong, so....)."

 

And his attitude continued in a later review it appears as well.

 

"I'm not going to get into the whole "do these have the last scene tags or not" thing I went through for the last two sets, where I received a bunch of angry, crazy emails from "experts" on both sides of the argument calling me out."

 

Needless to say, I won't be emailing him again. ;)


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