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#81 of 207 Rob_Ray

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Posted June 17 2014 - 07:55 AM

 

Twilight Time regrets to announce that our planned August 12th release of the Jerome Kern classic musical CENTENNIAL SUMMER on blu-ray has been indefinitely postponed. This is due to ongoing and unresolved rights issues that prevent the film from being made available to home video at this time. It is hoped that one day in the not too distant future this situation will be rectified, but in the meantime we will adjust and revise our schedule accordingly. Along with many of you we are disappointed that the wait for this long out-of-print film will continue for that bit longer....
 

 

I wish this site had an option button labelled "Don't Like at ALL!"  I was really looking foward to this one and hope that the rights issues can be ironed out quickly.  Thanks for the update nonetheless.


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#82 of 207 Richard M S

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Posted June 17 2014 - 09:42 AM

Oh no!!!!!!! I was really looking forward to this as well! Hopefully the "unresolved rights issues" will be swiftly resolved.

 

Now regarding those issues, I don't know pretend to know anything about this situation, but in some cases "unresolved rights issues" really meant money was the issue, however I really don't see this very obscure film, with now almost-equally obscure stars, as being much of a moneymaker in 2014.

 

In fact, I almost considered the release to be a "gift" from Twilight Time.



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Posted June 17 2014 - 10:17 AM

Centennial Summer was based on a 1943 novel by Albert Idell.  The most common legal complication for films based on other works stems from the case of Stuart v. Abend (http://en.wikipedia....tewart_v._Abend), where the issue is whether the owner of the film has the rights to distribute it where someone else owns the rights upon which it was based.  I would have thought that Fox would not have licensed this film to Twilight Time if there was this common of an issue with it, but perhaps not.  On the other hand, perhaps there's some odd isssue with the music or something.


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Posted June 17 2014 - 10:18 AM

Now regarding those issues, I don't know pretend to know anything about this situation, but in some cases "unresolved rights issues" really meant money was the issue, however I really don't see this very obscure film, with now almost-equally obscure stars, as being much of a moneymaker in 2014.

 

If you're suggesting TT is covering dropping this title by fabricating the rights issue as a more excusable pretext because the company second-guessed, I seriously doubt it.  It's more likely that when TT announced the release of this title, Fox's lawyers discovered that there was a snag in the rights somewhere.  I suppose it's possible, but TT is known for taking risks and if they seriously doubted this title, they wouldn't have bothered with it in the first place.

 

A similar thing happened when the Fox film Boomerang was first issued on DVD and was pulled at the 11th hour.  They eventually fixed that pretty fast and hopefully they do the same here.  Though that was more of an exceptional case since Fox had already spent thousands of dollars manufacturing the DVDs (some of which leaked to the public) and distributing them to retailers beforehand and was more anxious for a return on investment, even at a hefty price.  Centennial Summer, on the other hand, shows no signs that it has gone as far as disc replication or even getting the cover art finalized.

 

I think this case is somewhere along those lines--since this film is (or was) being released after being ignored by Fox for so long, their marketing lawyers double checked this title to ensure no lawsuits would arise from copyright and indeed discovered a discrepency that had previously been overlooked.  Since this is a musical, the most likely reason was that there was a song (or songs/portions of music) which have not been cleared for copyright or that Fox lost the rights to over the decades.  In this case either Fox will resolve the issue or it will become (temporarily or permanently) insurmountable, be it too steep of a licensing cost, the copyright claimant is non-receptive, or other reasons.

 

Centennial Summer was based on a 1943 novel by Albert Idell.  The most common legal complication for films based on other works stems from the case of Stuart v. Abend (http://en.wikipedia....tewart_v._Abend), where the issue is whether the owner of the film has the rights to distribute it where someone else owns the rights upon which it was based.  I would have thought that Fox would not have licensed this film to Twilight Time if there was this common of an issue with it, but perhaps not.  On the other hand, perhaps there's some odd isssue with the music or something.

 

If it's an problem with the author's family or related copyright holder, it's a pretty bad sign.  If they haven't budged in the past, there's little chance they'll budge now.  Fingers crossed that a) this isn't the case and b) a compromise can be reached.



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Posted June 17 2014 - 11:08 AM

Revised Aug / Sept / Oct / Release Schedule:

FOLLOW THAT DREAM (1962) BLU-RAY - Aug 12th

THE SECRET OF SANTA VITTORIA (1969) BLU-RAY - Aug 12th

MAN HUNT (1941) BLU-RAY - Aug 12th

RIFF RAFF (1991) / RAINING STONES (1993) BLU-RAY - Aug 12th

THE BUDDY HOLLY STORY (1978) BLU-RAY - Aug 12th

THE KILLER ELITE (1975) BLU-RAY w/ Noon Wine (1966) - Sept 9th

SALVADOR (1986) BLU-RAY - Sept 9th

THE DOGS OF WAR (1980) BLU-RAY - Sept 9th

CHE! (1969) BLU-RAY - Sept 9th

LA BAMBA (1987) BLU-RAY - Sept 9th

AUDREY ROSE (1977) BLU-RAY - Oct 14th

THE BELIEVERS (1987) BLU-RAY - Oct 14th

THE BLOB (1988) BLU-RAY - Oct 14th (Limited Edition of 5,000 units.)

THE VANISHING (1993) BLU-RAY - Oct 14th

UNDER FIRE (1983) BLU-RAY - Oct 14th


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Posted June 17 2014 - 11:24 AM

Well, The Vanishing isn't a vintage title, but it does have another Goldsmith score...and one with a rather interesting history:thumbs-up-smiley:


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Posted June 19 2014 - 03:38 PM

I'm in on:

 

THE KILLER ELITE (1975) BLU-RAY w/ Noon Wine (1966) - Sept 9th (Even though I have the French blu can't pass on this with Noon Wine)

SALVADOR (1986) BLU-RAY - Sept 9th

THE DOGS OF WAR (1980) BLU-RAY - Sept 9th

THE BELIEVERS (1987) BLU-RAY - Oct 14th

UNDER FIRE (1983) BLU-RAY - Oct 14th



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Posted June 19 2014 - 04:10 PM

Nice that TT is upping the run to 5000 units (instead of the usual 3000) for THE BLOB remake.  Considering how fast genre titles sell out (missing out on CHRISTINE still smarts), some of us might actually have a chance to get this one!


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Posted June 19 2014 - 04:13 PM

 (missing out on CHRISTINE still smarts), 

 

You and me both, i will most certainly be trying to get a fast order in for The Blob.


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Posted June 19 2014 - 06:46 PM

Went and pulled the trigger today for The Train and Heaven Knows Mr. Allison.  I had planned to wait till first payday in July (July 4th) but the low quantity warning on The Train forced my hand a little early.  So something in the budget gets pushed back to July.

 

Noted the low quantity warning for Our Man Flint (which I replaced this month with The Train) but I'm holding off till I decide if I'll really like it and it does seem to be moving slowly.  However The Train will probably sell out within the week.

 

Will be ready on Day 1 of pre-order to pull the trigger on The Blob (1988) and Audrey Rose (1977).  And if they ever release these two (Skatetown USA and Thank God Its Friday), those two would be Day 1 buys.



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Posted June 20 2014 - 01:56 PM

Still no word on FIRST MEN IN THE MOON?  Or was that just a rumor?



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Posted June 20 2014 - 02:05 PM

Centennial Summer was based on a 1943 novel by Albert Idell.  The most common legal complication for films based on other works stems from the case of Stuart v. Abend (http://en.wikipedia....tewart_v._Abend), where the issue is whether the owner of the film has the rights to distribute it where someone else owns the rights upon which it was based.  I would have thought that Fox would not have licensed this film to Twilight Time if there was this common of an issue with it, but perhaps not.  On the other hand, perhaps there's some odd isssue with the music or something.

May be the same type of issue which kept the title from being released in the VHS era.  Such a shame as this film is absolutely delightful, and I was planning on buying 2 copies.



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Posted June 20 2014 - 03:40 PM

Still no word on FIRST MEN IN THE MOON?  Or was that just a rumor?

Early 2015 is what I have heard and been told .. it really is happening :) 



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Posted June 26 2014 - 03:10 PM

Early 2015 is what I have heard and been told .. it really is happening :)

 

Good to hear.  They're going to have to go with a 5000-unit press run for this one!



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Posted June 27 2014 - 02:15 PM

Thanks for that updated list. Argh! None of the musicals have sold out. That certainly won't help them decide to do more of those.  :(



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Posted June 27 2014 - 07:59 PM

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Matt--never fear, we have several more musicals on the schedule -- including some of our very favorite -- we remain undaunted by the general lack of interest in the genre!


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Posted June 27 2014 - 08:14 PM

Matt--never fear, we have several more musicals on the schedule -- including some of our very favorite -- we remain undaunted by the general lack of interest in the genre!

 

That's most encouraging.

I'm most excited and can't wait for your future Musical announcements.

 

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Posted June 27 2014 - 08:23 PM

Matt--never fear, we have several more musicals on the schedule -- including some of our very favorite -- we remain undaunted by the general lack of interest in the genre!

 

A breath of fresh air.



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Posted June 27 2014 - 09:02 PM

Matt--never fear, we have several more musicals on the schedule -- including some of our very favorite -- we remain undaunted by the general lack of interest in the genre!


I am ecstatic. Thanks.
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Posted June 27 2014 - 10:21 PM

And I would guess ... The Pajama Game?







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