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#101 of 110 OFFLINE   MatthewA

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Posted August 24 2014 - 09:34 PM

iTunes and VUDU were the only sites where I could find the 139-minute version before this disc came out.


Enough is enough, Disney. No more evasions or excuses. We DEMAND the release Song of the South on Blu-ray along with the uncut version of Bedknobs and Broomsticks on Blu-ray. I will not support anything your company produces until then.


#102 of 110 OFFLINE   Dave MJ

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Posted August 25 2014 - 10:22 AM

I watched this last night and it looked very good. None of the typical DNR scrubbing during the animated sequences. In fact it looked a bit too grainy if anything. But it was very sharp. I can't say if it accurately represented the theatrical presentation, but it  looked good to me, very film like. Audio was also excellent.

 

It is very curious (and annoying) that the extended version isn't available because all of the deleted songs and scenes were presented in the same HD quality as the feature, so clearly they intended to create a restored extended version at one point.

 

"With A Flair" was never included in any version I saw prior to the extended home video release, but it was on the soundtrack.



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Posted August 25 2014 - 01:11 PM

It is very curious (and annoying) that the extended version isn't available because all of the deleted songs and scenes were presented in the same HD quality as the feature, so clearly they intended to create a restored extended version at one point.

 

"With A Flair" was never included in any version I saw prior to the extended home video release, but it was on the soundtrack.

 

They might of originally intended for a the restored version, but they decided to penny pinch at the last minute though.

 

With A Flair, the song itself is only in the restored version, but the instrumentals to the song are played during Prof. Emelius Brown "bad magic show" which are in both versions of the film.



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Posted August 25 2014 - 01:21 PM

I also watched it last night and enjoyed it very much despite the missing scenes. My guests weren't even aware that a longer version existed and were none the wiser.

 

I remember the very first time I saw the movie. It was in 1974 in grade school. They screened it in the school library in 16mm. I know we took recess breaks between reels. It seems like there were several breaks but my memory may be playing tricks. As a ten-year-old who had never seen a feature film, it was a new experience for me. Most of it was over my head as at the time I knew nothing of WWII and Nazis. But when it came to the cartoon sequence I was of course mesmerized.

 

I didn't see the movie again until 1985 on VHS. And for the record, that early VHS and first laserdisc release was incomplete even for the theatrical version. It only ran 112 minutes, so 4 minutes was missing somewhere.



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Posted August 25 2014 - 05:25 PM

Weird. I just went through iTunes and got the 117 minute version. And when I went to the iTunes store, the 117 min version was all they had listed as well. 

 

I went through iTunes to get the 139 minute version.



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Posted August 25 2014 - 09:06 PM



I didn't see the movie again until 1985 on VHS. And for the record, that early VHS and first laserdisc release was incomplete even for the theatrical version. It only ran 112 minutes, so 4 minutes was missing somewhere.

 

That was a typo, and the overture was compressed on the original tape and laserdisc. 112 minutes is about what the short version would be in PAL.


Enough is enough, Disney. No more evasions or excuses. We DEMAND the release Song of the South on Blu-ray along with the uncut version of Bedknobs and Broomsticks on Blu-ray. I will not support anything your company produces until then.


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Posted August 25 2014 - 09:48 PM

That was a typo, and the overture was compressed on the original tape and laserdisc. 112 minutes is about what the short version would be in PAL.


It wasn't a typo. I clocked it. But I can't say if was trimmed or time compressed.

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Posted August 25 2014 - 10:10 PM

Weird. I just went through iTunes and got the 117 minute version. And when I went to the iTunes store, the 117 min version was all they had listed as well. 

 

That is weird.  I most definitely have the 139 minute version.  I redeemed the download within a couple of days of the Blu-ray's release.  Maybe that was a mistake, and they reverted back to the shorter version.  Guess I'd better make sure I don't delete it from my iPad.



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Posted August 26 2014 - 03:33 AM

They might of originally intended for a the restored version, but they decided to penny pinch at the last minute though.

 

With A Flair, the song itself is only in the restored version, but the instrumentals to the song are played during Prof. Emelius Brown "bad magic show" which are in both versions of the film.

I think darkrock17 is right on with his post. A few months before the BluRay was announced, I talked to an insider and he said the long version footage was restored in HD and because of advancements in sound technology, they went through a tightened up the sync issues as best they could. The plan was to release the full version. I don't know if it was going to be branching or two separate versions of the film or not. You could see by the quality of the extra scenes, they would have fit in beautifully. 

 

The really odd thing was for Disney to include that original documentary with all the partipants saying how great it is to have the film as it was meant to be, how much better it is, the reason for the cutting, etc., etc. And that silly piece on the special effects, comparing it to Wizards of Waverly Place was embarassing. 



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Posted August 27 2014 - 08:07 AM


Now, again, part of me thinks that the extended version of Bedknobs & Broomsticks

is a bit too long.  But, at the same time, I can't pick and choose what I want and don't

want.  To have an entire song like "With a Flair" cut from this release only tells me that

the longer version should have been included here.

 

The removal of "With a Flair" also created a huge continuity problem: after the crowd walks out on Mr. Browne, there's a large ball of paper on the ground and the mustachioed man in the brown derby (Milt Larsen, an actual magician, occasional collaborator with Richard M. Sherman, and owner of the Magic Castle in Hollywood. ) walks away with egg and pancake batter on his head.

 

I recently discovered that the fact that the film had been cut even more heavily in Germany did not stop the soccer game from becoming popular there.


Enough is enough, Disney. No more evasions or excuses. We DEMAND the release Song of the South on Blu-ray along with the uncut version of Bedknobs and Broomsticks on Blu-ray. I will not support anything your company produces until then.






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