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The Amazing Spider-Man 2 - Quick review


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#61 of 69 paul_austin

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Posted May 04 2014 - 09:36 PM

The worst thing about the third Raimi film is that the Sandman storyline would've made a fine movie on its own.

 

The Bee Vees (V for Venom!) plot line was excruciating.

Venom was shoehorned into the story at the insistence of the studio.

One thing about this (ASM2) film was the music felt like it was from another movie. It just never worked for me. And I am sorry Sally Field but Rosemary Harris from Raimi's Spiderman films is the living embodiment of Aunt May.


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#62 of 69 Lou Sytsma

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Posted May 07 2014 - 11:15 AM

Disappointing recent cinematic outings - for the 2 big SMans - Spidey and Supes. Spidey slightly better because of Garfield/Stone chemistry.

 

Roberto Orci and Alex Kurtzman - please stop spreading yourselves so thin. We the fans are paying the price. Thank you.


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#63 of 69 Patrick Sun

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Posted May 07 2014 - 12:09 PM

That average writing team has split up.


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#64 of 69 Lou Sytsma

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Posted May 07 2014 - 01:06 PM

That average writing team has split up.

Yes, I saw that. A step in the right direction. Now each need to scale back on the number of simultaneous projects they are involved with.


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#65 of 69 Sean Bryan

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Posted May 11 2014 - 08:30 AM

I finally saw this yesterday, and I was happy to find that I enjoyed it.

Warning for potential SPOILERS!!!!

It certainly has its flaws. The pacing could have used some tightening up, especially around the middle act. Electro was ok. The portrayal of Max pre-transformation was a bit over the top, but just a bit. And it certainly set up that this was an unstable individual.

The Harry thing seemed a bit rushed. If he had the same condition as his father he seemed to be progressing quite quickly at age 20. I suppose if Norman started trying "cures" on himself quite a while ago that would explain why he managed to hold it together through his 50's/60's. I think the Harry arc would have been stronger if he had been a presence in the first film and had more of a real adult friendship with Peter rather than re-establishing a childhood friendship.

I thought Spider-Man's web swinging was superb. His quipy demeanor was straight out of the comic books. As with the first film, the relationship between Peter and Gwen and their chemistry remains a strong point of the film. I thought Peter's struggle with his guilt over breaking his promise to Captain Stacey and trying again to keep it was well handled. And that, of course, flowed through the main narrative culminating with Gwen's fate and Peter stopping being Spider-Man for half a year.

Sally Field's Aunt May was well used. I think her acting in the scene with Peter in his room when she discovered he was obsessing about his parents' fate was a highlight. I was certainly moved by her performance.

The score was pretty cool. The Electro "paranoia" theme seemed to capture the mental instability of Max pretty well. And it had a unique sound. The new Spidey Theme was good, and I think "It's On Again" over the end end credits was quite good and really captured the emotional state of Peter at the end of the film.

Peter's ringtone was great!

I think shaving off maybe 10 minutes or so, tightening up the pace, and re-working some of the villain stuff would have made it a stronger film. They were certainly ambitious with the script. Probably too ambitious. It's easy to see why they cut out Mary Jayne. The story was a bit "stuffed" and dropping her in this to streamline was the right call. It would have been stronger if they did a bit more streamlining, I think.

I enjoyed the first film, and I think I enjoyed this about as much. Maybe a little more, maybe a little less. I'll have to see it again to see where it falls.

I can understand criticisms about pacing and maybe uneven tone. I can not understand complaints comparing it to Batman and Robin (or Batman Forever). Ridiculous comparison. Aside from some levity from Spider-Man (which is comic accurate) and pre-transformation Max being a little goofy, the movie still had a serious story about choice, consequence, love and loss.
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Posted May 11 2014 - 08:36 AM

His quipy demeanor was straight out of the comic books.

While it might have bordered on being too silly, I loved the joke of Spidey wearing the fireman's helmet when he was helping use the hose. Clearly, I have odd comedic tastes but thinking about that image makes me chuckle.


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Posted May 11 2014 - 08:50 AM

Just wanted to add that I think Sony's handling of the marketing was poor.

I think almost every single money shot was shown to some degree in trailers and TV spots.

Also, the midcredit clip from Days of Future Past was clunky, awkward, and very out of place. My understanding was that Webb was under contract for doing a Fox film, but they let him do ASM2 for Sony in exchange for Sony providing free advertising for the new X-Men movie. Understanding that still didn't make that midcredit advert any less jarring. I hope it is removed for the BD.
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#68 of 69 Sean Bryan

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Posted May 11 2014 - 08:51 AM

While it might have bordered on being too silly, I loved the joke of Spidey wearing the fireman's helmet when he was helping use the hose. Clearly, I have odd comedic tastes but thinking about that image makes me chuckle.


That was perfect Spidey right there.
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Posted June 01 2014 - 08:39 PM

More of a tech comment than a movie quality comment...

 

I just read in "American Cinematographer" about the post-production workflow on this film.  Although it was shot on 35mm anamorphic, and that was scanned at 4K, those files were downrezzed all of the effects and post work was done in 2K.  Which was then unconverted to 4K for the final master.  So if Sony releases this as a "Mastered in 4K" title or on their 4K set-top device (forgot what it's called), it won't truly be in 4K no matter what the advertising claims.

 

Interesting that while Sony and other manufacturers seem to be aggressively promoting Ultra HD and 4K for the future of home entertainment, they're not even doing their largest, highest profile release in 4K.






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