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#1 of 18 OFFLINE   Relic1Golf

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Posted April 12 2014 - 08:20 AM

I currently have a set of B&W 686 for front L/R. I want to move them to the back and replace them with 6.5" bookshelf speakers for the front stage.

 

I make about $2-2500/mo so I want to stay within my means but I dont want to be disappointed or wonder If Im missing something in the future. my decision is between B&W 685 and CM5 for front stage and depending on that it will dictate my center channel?

Im a firm believer that a poor man pays twice so I dont want to be the poor man nor do I want to eat roman and frozen burritos for the next 3 months.



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Posted April 12 2014 - 08:53 AM

Being that I am a poor college student, one of the best things are started doing was home theater savings account (or stash). Before that I only made large home theater purchases with part of my tax return. The savings allows you to save up more and get what you really want so you don't feel the need to upgrade shortly after your purchase. It also helps prevent you from over spending on it because all you have is what ever you put into your home theater savings. That would help prevent the days of roman, which I am right there with you, that sucks. The only down side is you'll have to wait a bit in order to save up the money.



#3 of 18 OFFLINE   Relic1Golf

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Posted April 12 2014 - 08:59 AM

thank you, I could start another savings account sometime next week and transfer funds as needed.



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Posted April 12 2014 - 09:24 AM

Here you go...

http://desmoines.cra...4398652707.html

 

And yes...I know you said bookshelf...



#5 of 18 OFFLINE   John Garcia

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Posted April 12 2014 - 04:18 PM

What's driving the upgrade - space?  What are you hoping to improve?  Yes, the L&R would determine the center you choose.  With a good sub, I don't think the step up from the 686 to the 685 is that big of a jump.  Scoring those 683s would be though :)


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Posted April 13 2014 - 08:54 AM

considering my living room is only 8'x10' I dont have the floor space for towers otherwise I would. I probably listen to music as much as watch movies and depend on my subwoofer for less than 100hz. the 686 seem strained at high volume and doesnt blend as well. my over all goal is 6.5" bookshelf speakers for front stage and an integrated stereo amp one day.



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Posted April 13 2014 - 09:17 AM

I have 4 Infinity Crescendo 3007 in a room that size. Are these going on a dresser or stands?

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Posted April 13 2014 - 09:51 AM

stange setup, right channel is on a coffee table Im using for a TV stand about 8" from the wall and left channel is on a box full sand on top of my subwoofer same height and distance from wall. both speakers are toed in 15-20 degrees.



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Posted April 14 2014 - 07:54 AM

What are you powering them with?  Strained sound could be more an indicator of too little power not a problem with the speakers, which would seem odd considerign a 100Hz x-over - those speakers should be OK with an 80Hz as they are -3dB at ~62hz.  Going with a bigger speaker won't fix that, it could make it worse.


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Posted April 14 2014 - 11:35 AM

I have a Denon AVR-3805 rated 120w/ch, Im only using 5.1 and the other 2 surround speakers are turned off. I intend to get the Marantz 6004/6005 one day for stereo playback and bi-wire the speakers.



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Posted April 14 2014 - 03:17 PM

Bi-wire with an AVR is pointless, unless an Onkyo. Onkyo has tailorable crossover. Nobody else does.

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Posted April 15 2014 - 08:46 AM

Bi-wire with an AVR is pointless, unless an Onkyo. Onkyo has tailorable crossover. Nobody else does.

 

It is still the same power supply, so you still don't have the same benefits as a fully active x-over and separate amplification (which is biamping, not biwiring).

 

Biwiring is pointless, period.


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Posted April 15 2014 - 08:48 AM

It is still the same power supply, so you still don't have the same benefits as a fully active x-over and separate amplification.Bi-wire is pointless, period.

Onkyo does do fully active crossover.Granted...still sucking the same teet though...

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Posted April 15 2014 - 08:58 AM

alright, I wont bi-wire and just use an integrated amp. Im either looking at 3 B&W 685 speakers since I have space under the TV, or CM5|CMCC|CM5 depending on my budget.



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Posted April 30 2014 - 01:15 PM

If I get an integrated amp for the front speakers I want to either get a Marantz pm6004 or a Jolida 2ch tube amp. has anyone had experience with either one with B&W bookshelf speakers?



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Posted April 30 2014 - 01:36 PM

I've heard other British speakers on a Jolida and thought it was a good combo.  Marantz is also rarely a bad decision.  I still use my PM7200 class A/AB right now and I still love it.


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Posted April 30 2014 - 03:26 PM

My favorite tube/speaker combo...Music Reference and Zu Dominance.

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Posted April 30 2014 - 03:28 PM

I have my heart set on the Rogue Audio Cronus tube amp but I have a hard time spending $2000 on an amp. I suppose to some that doesnt even buy the audio cables.






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