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A Few Words About Fox Blu-ray

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#21 of 68 OFFLINE   Rob_Ray

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Posted December 05 2013 - 10:25 AM

In 1957 Fox was releasing all their CinemaScope productions in stereo.

Was THE THREE FACES OF EVE in stereo?  I haven't watched the bluray yet, but I don't recall ever hearing stereo on this 1957 title either.  But that doesn't mean it wasn't originally released that way.  But maybe the original tracks don't survive.



#22 of 68 OFFLINE   Douglas R

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Posted December 05 2013 - 11:15 AM

Was THE THREE FACES OF EVE in stereo?  I haven't watched the bluray yet, but I don't recall ever hearing stereo on this 1957 title either.  But that doesn't mean it wasn't originally released that way.  But maybe the original tracks don't survive.

4-track stereo according to IMDb.

#23 of 68 OFFLINE   Matt Hough

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Posted December 05 2013 - 01:24 PM

4-track stereo according to IMDb.

 

The Fox Blu-ray I reviewed last month was DTS-HD Master Audio 1.0.



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Posted December 08 2013 - 10:57 AM

As a librarian and a Hepburn fan, I've always felt a fondness for this film and consider it one of their best. The 'Scope framing (which was even wider on the laserdisc than the DVD) doesn't do the film any favours though, IMHO.



#25 of 68 OFFLINE   Reed Grele

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Posted December 12 2013 - 10:30 AM

Look what Santa's sleigh just delivered to my doorstep:

 

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I'll be watching Desk Set tonight. The rest should keep me busy until well after the holidays!



#26 of 68 OFFLINE   Stefan Andersson

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Posted December 17 2013 - 12:09 AM

Screen caps over at DVD Beaver show a heavy blue bias: http://www.dvdbeaver...re2/deskset.htm

 

I know caps are dependent on monitor settings and subjective judgment, therefore often untrustworthy.

 

But due to the marked difference in color between the SD and the Blu, I thought I´d bring it up for discussion.



#27 of 68 OFFLINE   Will Krupp

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Posted December 17 2013 - 06:57 AM

Screen caps over at DVD Beaver show a heavy blue bias: http://www.dvdbeaver...re2/deskset.htm

 

I know caps are dependent on monitor settings and subjective judgment, therefore often untrustworthy.

 

But due to the marked difference in color between the SD and the Blu, I thought I´d bring it up for discussion.

 

You can find a (brief) discussion of this on the other DESK SET thread.  I think the blu-ray looks wonderful

 

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#28 of 68 OFFLINE   Reed Grele

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Posted December 17 2013 - 04:50 PM

The only blue I noticed was in Katharine Hepburn's eyes. The rest of the film looked magnificent! :)



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Posted December 18 2013 - 05:18 AM

For those interested in an HD version of this film similar to the color scheme of Fox's 2004 SD release, there's a German Blu-ray out that uses an older transfer.

 

Borders are a little more cropped than on the Fox BD, compression could be better and there are a few specks and dirt particles noticable.

 

I have no idea which color grading represents the original theatrical presentation but to my eye the older version is a bit more pleasing than that current transfer.



#30 of 68 OFFLINE   Will Krupp

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Posted December 18 2013 - 07:11 AM

I have no idea which color grading represents the original theatrical presentation but to my eye the older version is a bit more pleasing than that current transfer.

 

With all due respect, I couldn't disagree more.  I think the film benefits tremendously from the wider array of colors in the new transfer.

 

I think the beaver caps LOOK so blue because they are printed on the page right BENEATH the older transfer (which was completely lacking in blue of any kind) and, since we see that one first, our brain screams BLUE!!!!!! when we get to the new images.  If you look at the caps posted lower on the page (without the benefit of comparison to the brown/green older shots) they appear well balanced and NOT overly blue because our brain isn't playing tricks on us.

 

In motion it is (at the risk of sounding TOO gay, as if that's even possible) a truly delicious transfer IMO and I highly highly recommend it for anyone who's a fan.



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Posted December 19 2013 - 01:17 AM

I was just pointing to an HD alternative for those disappointed with the current Blu-ray.No need to get excited...

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Posted December 19 2013 - 05:44 AM

I think the beaver caps LOOK so blue because they are printed on the page right BENEATH the older transfer (which was completely lacking in blue of any kind) and, since we see that one first, our brain screams BLUE!!!!!! when we get to the new images.  If you look at the caps posted lower on the page (without the benefit of comparison to the brown/green older shots) they appear well balanced and NOT overly blue because our brain isn't playing tricks on us.

 

In motion it is (at the risk of sounding TOO gay, as if that's even possible) a truly delicious transfer IMO and I highly highly recommend it for anyone who's a fan.

 

I personally think it looks much too blue in the Beaver caps, but I know what you mean about the comparison making it seem more marked. There do not appear to be any pure whites in any of the grabs and the reds are too muted it seems  me.



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Posted December 26 2013 - 04:40 PM

This movie gives me endless pleasure and I always love watching it from November through December. It's another chapter of corporate office life. The bluish tinge is what I remember from seeing good quality 35mm/scope showings. Many Fox '50's scope films set in offices share this look. I don't know if it was the sets or lighting. 



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Posted December 26 2013 - 05:08 PM

Very happy with the Blu-ray transfer.

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Posted December 26 2013 - 05:52 PM

I'm very happy as well to have one of my favorite films properly presented on bluray.



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Posted December 27 2013 - 09:13 PM

With all due respect, I couldn't disagree more.  I think the film benefits tremendously from the wider array of colors in the new transfer.

 

I think the beaver caps LOOK so blue because they are printed on the page right BENEATH the older transfer (which was completely lacking in blue of any kind) and, since we see that one first, our brain screams BLUE!!!!!! when we get to the new images.  If you look at the caps posted lower on the page (without the benefit of comparison to the brown/green older shots) they appear well balanced and NOT overly blue because our brain isn't playing tricks on us.

 

In motion it is (at the risk of sounding TOO gay, as if that's even possible) a truly delicious transfer IMO and I highly highly recommend it for anyone who's a fan.

I disagree.  When I watched the Blu-ray, I did so independent of any other screenings - I'd not seen the DVD in years - and knew nothing of any potential blue emphasis before I viewed it.

 

And I thought "BLUE!!!" when I watched the Blu-ray.  This had nothing to do with screen caps or my mind convincing me I was seeing something I was looking to find - it just looked blue.

 

Whether or not the image is SUPPOSED to look blue is up for debate, but according to my eyes - seeing it on my TV in my house - it shows a definite teal emphasis...


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#37 of 68 OFFLINE   Will Krupp

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Posted December 27 2013 - 09:17 PM

 

Whether or not the image is SUPPOSED to look blue is up for debate, but according to my eyes - seeing it on my TV in my house - it shows a definite teal emphasis...

 

okay...



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Posted December 27 2013 - 10:12 PM

Well, for those who know what these Fox films looked like back then, the color on the Blu is very pleasing and very true.  For those who don't and prefer faded and completely washed out images, then some other transfer will be more pleasing.  Blue was very prevalent in dye transfer prints of the time - this is not conjecture, it's fact, and I love this Blu-ray for looking like it should :)



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Posted December 27 2013 - 10:13 PM

With all due respect, I couldn't disagree more.  I think the film benefits tremendously from the wider array of colors in the new transfer.

 

I think the beaver caps LOOK so blue because they are printed on the page right BENEATH the older transfer (which was completely lacking in blue of any kind) and, since we see that one first, our brain screams BLUE!!!!!! when we get to the new images.  If you look at the caps posted lower on the page (without the benefit of comparison to the brown/green older shots) they appear well balanced and NOT overly blue because our brain isn't playing tricks on us.

 

In motion it is (at the risk of sounding TOO gay, as if that's even possible) a truly delicious transfer IMO and I highly highly recommend it for anyone who's a fan.

As you can see in my post above, we are in complete agreement regarding the color.  



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Posted December 27 2013 - 10:15 PM

I disagree.  When I watched the Blu-ray, I did so independent of any other screenings - I'd not seen the DVD in years - and knew nothing of any potential blue emphasis before I viewed it.

 

And I thought "BLUE!!!" when I watched the Blu-ray.  This had nothing to do with screen caps or my mind convincing me I was seeing something I was looking to find - it just looked blue.

 

Whether or not the image is SUPPOSED to look blue is up for debate, but according to my eyes - seeing it on my TV in my house - it shows a definite teal emphasis...

As opposed to what other kind of emphasis - yellow?  :) The image looks like a dye transfer print of that era, just as it should.  







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