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My dilemma: Panasonic ZT vs. Samsung F8500


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#41 of 308 OFFLINE   Robert Crawford

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Posted November 12 2013 - 05:44 AM

The glasses that Panasonic gives you are battery operated.

 

When you press the sync button on the glasses, a little icon shows up

on the Panny that shows you are not only connected, but the battery status.

 

Nothing about my initial settings changed.

 

However, suddenly, I am sitting here with my mouth gaped wide open as I

view some really great 3D.

 

The black levels on this display really intensify the effect.

 

The only thing I find, thus far, is that upconverted titles like TITANIC and PACIFIC RIM 3D

don't look as pronounced as they did on my LG.

 

However stuff like Megamind, Monsters vs. Aliens and Despicable Me look AMAZING.

 

The only thing that needs to be worked on is broadcast TV.  It looks terrible.

 

I am going to borrow other user's settings to try and tweak it.  

 

If I can get broadcast TV to look good, I will keep the display.  The blacks are just too good

to give up.

Perhaps, the TV getting to room temperature and above has helped the 3-D performance.  As to the glasses, that's a change from last year's models as to the status indicators.  Could the glasses being more in sync with your display now?


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#42 of 308 OFFLINE   Ronald Epstein

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Posted November 12 2013 - 06:03 AM

Robert, 

 

Makes sense.

 

I am going back-and-forth from my office (to check email) to looking at 3D content.

 

The ZT is really growing on me.  It's really a fantastic picture.  


 

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#43 of 308 OFFLINE   Ronald Epstein

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Posted November 12 2013 - 06:29 AM

Fios broadcast television looks like shit.  It's blurry, not at all detailed.

 

I forgot that I had Dish Network in the house.  It was installed when I did a review

a year ago.  I switched over to Dish and miraculously, the broadcast picture looked

much, much better.

 

Problem is, I can't use Dish for everyday use.  I have a Tivo Roamio that is not 

compatible with Dish.  I must use Fios.

 

I have to find a way to tweak these settings so that the Fios broadcast signal looks

acceptable.

 

At some point calibration may be necessary, but with the holidays here, that is not

something I am going to pursue until next year.


 

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#44 of 308 OFFLINE   Robert Crawford

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Posted November 12 2013 - 06:34 AM

Well, at least you determined it's not the display in regards to your TV programming.  So now, it's just a matter of getting that signal tweaked to your satisfaction.


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Posted November 12 2013 - 06:43 AM

I have a feeling the TV was cold. One thING that helps "non-dish" broadcast work better is to turn off the pixel orbiter while watching Fios.



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Posted November 12 2013 - 07:07 AM

Holy moley, what a thread to wake up to and read straight through, bleary-eyed, over one's first cup of coffee.  Talk about a rollercoaster ride...

 

I have NO doubt that there's a setting or two to be changed somewhere, then everything will look like it should.  I'm deeply envious!   :)

 

As for 3-D testing, some of us will be waiting with bated breath for your report on how DIAL M FOR MURDER looks on this screen, what with the ghosting issues on other Pannys.  I'm just wondering if Panasonic had made any improvements on that since my model of three years ago.  But however DIAL M plays, the 3-D otherwise should be absolutely fabulous.



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Posted November 12 2013 - 09:00 AM

UPDATE

 

Things just continue to be crazy on this end as I have been breaking in my ZT60 for the past 7 hours.

 

I was complaining that broadcast quality looks like crap.

 

I went into my Tivo settings.  It was outputting 480p.  It made the switch when I swapped out displays and never switched back.  Never even thought that could be the problem.

 

So, there is the answer for the blurry Hi-Def.  Now it looks amazing in 1080.

 

The only remaining issue with this display is its initial tendency to switch 3D from flat to "pop"

 

Someone else has reported the same issue and I want to be certain this is not an ongoing problem where sometimes I am getting the best 3D I can and others it is giving me a more flat picture.


 

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Posted November 12 2013 - 09:19 AM

Ron,

 

I have to wonder if those glasses become out of sync with your display which is causing the inconsistent 3-D performance.


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Posted November 12 2013 - 10:14 AM

No, actually, not an out-of-synch thing.  If it had gone OOS then the 

screen would have shown blurred images associated with watching

3D without eyewear.

 

Something just suddenly kicked in that wasn't there previously.  Been

speaking with other owners of the ZT60, and the same thing has happened

to others.  This may be an issue with the display.  Have not seen the problem

repeated.

 

I just watched a 3D release that I am about to review and it looked quite

excellent on the ZT60.  


 

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Posted November 12 2013 - 10:17 AM

Maybe the TV needed a firmware update? (assume you connected it to your network)



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Posted November 12 2013 - 10:21 AM

I just watched a 3D release that I am about to review and it looked quite

excellent on the ZT60.  

 

Flying Swords Of Dragon's Gate. ?   I predict it will go into your top five if so.


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Posted November 12 2013 - 10:26 AM

Flying Swords Of Dragon's Gate. ?

 

Haha, no.  A Polar Bear film that I need to get started on writing about.

 

Are you serious about the Flying Swords of Dragon's Gate?  Is this a film

I need to pick up or are you trying to be funny?


 

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Posted November 12 2013 - 11:03 AM

Ron,

 

Welcome to the Panny plasma 3D club! :)

 

If you haven't already picked up:

A Turtle's Tale 2: Sammy's Escape from Paradise

Please do. The "in your face" 3D is just as good, if not better than the first one. And it's a good story too.



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Posted November 12 2013 - 11:05 AM

Reed,

 

Really?
 

I am ordering it right now. 

 

Damn.  Turtle's Tale was amazing enough.  I gotta see this one.  

 

Thank You.

 

PS:  Just did overnight shipping from Amazon to have it tomorrow.


 

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Posted November 12 2013 - 11:07 AM

Haha, no.  A Polar Bear film that I need to get started on writing about.

 

Are you serious about the Flying Swords of Dragon's Gate?  Is this a film

I need to pick up or are you trying to be funny?

 

It's got some fabulous 3D, i mean great depth but also lots of quality popout moments, i'm fussy with the type of 3D i enjoy but this one was really enjoyable, i also second the Turtles Tale sequel, picked it a few weeks back and checked out some scenes, it's very good.


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Posted November 12 2013 - 11:08 AM

Haha, no.  A Polar Bear film that I need to get started on writing about.

 

Are you serious about the Flying Swords of Dragon's Gate?  Is this a film

I need to pick up or are you trying to be funny?

He's not kidding about the Wuxia. But, you have to be into it.



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Posted November 12 2013 - 11:08 AM

You guys sold me.

 

A Turtle's Tale is the absolute 3D reference disc.

 

Unfortunately, it is not available in the United States.  I have the import.

 

Happy that at least this sequel is more obtainable for us Yanks.


 

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Posted November 12 2013 - 11:19 AM

I bought the Turtles Tale sequel from the USA because the UK disc has been censored for a U certificate, the word Spaz has been deemed inappropriate for kids to hear for the certificate, they could have got a PG but decided to censor instead, the American disc is region coded so you need a multi region player to view it.

 

You can buy Flying Swords Of Dragon Gate from the UK cheaper than the USA version ( i think ) which seems to be higher priced, although i dislike dubbing for this particular title i viewed with the dubbing because subtitles on a 3D film is very distracting and doesn't work well, i believe it's region free too.

 

http://www.amazon.co...GATE 3D BLU RAY


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Posted November 12 2013 - 11:48 AM

Ordered Flying swords from your link Foxy thanks.

TT2 isn't as good as TT1? Where should I order the original from?

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Posted November 12 2013 - 11:52 AM

Ordered Flying swords from your link Foxy thanks.

TT2 isn't as good as TT1? Where should I order the original from?

 

I don't know if the sequel is as good, i'm planning on watching it nearer Xmas, the 3D seems to have some very good moments although once again i don't know if it's as good as the original, it's still better than most from the brief scenes i checked out.

 

You can buy the first one here from the USA.

 

http://www.amazon.co...turtles tale 3d

 

Or cheaper from the UK, both seem to be the UK disc.

 

http://www.amazon.co...tale 3d blu ray


Edited by FoxyMulder, November 12 2013 - 11:53 AM.

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