One of the deciding issues on not going with the Samsung was that it
*allegedly* suffers from floating blacks.
Have no idea what floating blacks are. I am guessing most people don't.
However, I am told that people are driven crazy by them when they know
what they are seeing.
There was also a single comment made about the Samsung being blurry
in motion scenes, but really, I didn't see any other statements concerning it.
We have a different term for it in the UK, we call it brightness pops, when some scenes go from bright to dark, it doesn't happen when dark scenes go to bright just bright to dark, it is actually mostly subtle, i believe the F8500 is supposed to have had a firmware update to minimize it.
Yes it can be annoying when you see it, i can live with it on my set due to the fact i don't get any image retention and it's hardly noticeable on most HD content these days, only 3D with it's added brightness brings it out in some scenes.
I did some testing, adjusting the cell light to 17 on 2D content totally gets rid of it, after the latest firmware update - before that update it was 13 with the cell light, with 3D content it is a different matter, it's automatically brighter and it's still there, you have to lower it into very low single figures to get rid of the issue, having said that i only saw two brightness pops ( that were obvious ) during the whole film of Resident Evil: Afterlife and that includes the white room end scenes, i suppose it depends on the viewer though and their tolerance levels.
I have never noticed any bad blurring on motion with my set, nor buzzing for that matter, nor any issues other than the brightness pops.
In fact floating blacks is indeed something else, from a review at HDTV Test it says this about floating blacks, i can honestly say floating blacks is not an issue, the brightness pops is an issue, although it's a minor annoyance these days, the review below is talking about my TV the E6500 and not the F8500.
As for floating blacks, those are here too, but they’re well disguised to the extent that they shouldn’t prove distracting. During a letterboxed film, if we paid attention to the black bars, we could see that they would sometimes rise to a brigther level during overall brighter scenes. However, surprisingly for us, they also sometimes lowered, too: during some scenes in Se7en they could reach 0.015 cd/m2, before returning to the baseline level of 0.02 cd/m2.
During content with a good mix of dark and light scenes intercut, we saw that in the most extreme cases, the blacks rose to 0.045 cd/m2 – which is the same baseline black level we measured from a 64″ Samsung plasma display last year (coincidence, we think not).
We feel the effect is minimal, for two reasons: first of all, the brightness very smoothly fades to a brighter or darker level, rather than instantly shifting in a single movement as it has done on some other plasma displays. Secondly, seeing as it only happens during brighter scenes, the “surround effect” property of the human visual system, coupled with the fading, will make the effect less perceptible. It will be more visible in a pitch black room, though, for this same reason. This is nowhere near as visible or as annoying as dynamic backlighting/ “auto dimming” on LCD-based TVs, though, because the blacks only become minutely higher, the whole screen does not get brighter or darker as it would with an affected LED LCD TV.
Edited by FoxyMulder, November 07 2013 - 12:08 PM.