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Criterion Press Release: It's A Mad Mad Mad Mad World (Dual Format)

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#241 of 1817 OFFLINE   Moe Dickstein

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Posted October 17 2013 - 02:32 PM

Just to clarify, the 35mm "version" was the second roadshow cut that premiered four weeks after the film opened - there were NO picture differences at all - the only thing different in the 35mm general release was the omission of the overture, entr'acte and playout music, otherwise they were identical.

...which is why I said "35mm version" instead of "second Roadshow edit"
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Posted October 17 2013 - 03:03 PM

A three hour documentary on the surviving crowd extras? I like that idea. Of course there are also those online videos and photos of MAD WORLD locations yesterday and today, right down to identifying rocks!  

 

Anyone recall a program from maybe ten years ago---James Lipton interviewed Peter Falk, and Falk absolutely cracked up when an audience member recited to the letter his phonecall tirade from MAD WORLD ("those fat nazis!").

 

Anyone interview Barrie Chase lately?

 

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Edited by BarryR, October 17 2013 - 03:14 PM.


#243 of 1817 OFFLINE   JohnMor

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Posted October 17 2013 - 03:23 PM

I'm a little surprised that Criterion isn't including the very rare 16mm version shot side by side with the 70mm and shown in only one country - Borneo, which could only show 16mm in the ratio of 1.42.

 

 

I'm positively gob-smacked that this release doesn't include a life-size, bikini-clad animatronic of a dancing Barrie Chase. Back to the drawing board, Criterion!

 

This company is a major ripoff!!  We need to launch a class action suit!  Executive heads should roll!  I won't rest till people are fired for this lazy-ass cash grab of a release!!  ;)  (Winking smiley added for benefit of ahollis.)



#244 of 1817 OFFLINE   Moe Dickstein

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Posted October 17 2013 - 03:28 PM

Interesting blog post from another fan:http://stuartgalbrai.../17/mad-x-4-43/
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Posted October 17 2013 - 03:31 PM

I think it got buried in a huge post, but I did have one question for RAH - can you talk a bit about how scenes with picture but missing audio were handled?
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Posted October 17 2013 - 03:38 PM

Interesting blog post from another fan:http://stuartgalbrai.../17/mad-x-4-43/

Stuart was a DVD reviewer here for a very short time. I remember his reviews focused on the film mostly and made little mention of audio and video which bothered some members.
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Posted October 17 2013 - 03:41 PM

I think it got buried in a huge post, but I did have one question for RAH - can you talk a bit about how scenes with picture but missing audio were handled?

 

Subtitles.  For those with constant height setups, within the picture area.

 

RAH


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Posted October 17 2013 - 03:47 PM

Robert,

 

In general terms, how does the image quality of the extended roadshow release compare to the image quality of the new 4K transfer of the general release?  Or, am I misunderstanding and both versions will have 4K transfers?

 

Thanks!

 

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Posted October 17 2013 - 03:57 PM

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Robert,

 

In general terms, how does the image quality of the extended roadshow release compare to the image quality of the new 4K transfer of the general release?  Or, am I misunderstanding and both versions will have 4K transfers?

 

Thanks!

 

Mark

 

I've not done a comparison.  My perspective from day one, was to achieve an image, and then raise the quality of that image as high as possible.  Initially, my feeling was that we would be able to create a burlap purse from a sow's ear.  That quality was eclipsed quite a while ago.

 

My general feeling was to make the extant film elements transparent to the reconstruction and restoration.  Freeze frames are used where necessary, and I've chosen to expose perforations in a shot or two that was too shrunken to allow doing otherwise without unnecessarily cropping the image.  I prefer to allow that as opposed to bringing in black bars to the side.  A true cinephile is fine with sprocket holes.

 

This is a reconstruction that allows viewers to become a part of the process.  Nothing is hidden, and no excuses are made.

 

Bottom line.  I'm thrilled with the final result, and Criterion has been amazing in supplying everything needed to create the best possible experience.

 

RAH


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Posted October 17 2013 - 03:59 PM

Which is better...

 

Chase in this or Phoenix?



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Posted October 17 2013 - 04:16 PM

This just keeps getting better and better!

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Posted October 17 2013 - 04:23 PM

I've not done a comparison.  My perspective from day one, was to achieve an image, and then raise the quality of that image as high as possible.  Initially, my feeling was that we would be able to create a burlap purse from a sow's ear.  That quality was eclipsed quite a while ago.

 

My general feeling was to make the extant film elements transparent to the reconstruction and restoration.  Freeze frames are used where necessary, and I've chosen to expose perforations in a shot or two that was too shrunken to allow doing otherwise without unnecessarily cropping the image.  I prefer to allow that as opposed to bringing in black bars to the side.  A true cinephile is fine with sprocket holes.

 

This is a reconstruction that allows viewers to become a part of the process.  Nothing is hidden, and no excuses are made.

 

Bottom line.  I'm thrilled with the final result, and Criterion has been amazing in supplying everything needed to create the best possible experience.

 

RAH

 

Thanks, Robert!  Both for your reply and your dedication to the restoration of the roadshow release!  I can't wait to add this to my collection!

 

Mark



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Posted October 17 2013 - 04:38 PM

And glad Joe is now happy with the news and he can finally enjoy life once and resume with his regulary-scheduled program(s) or life schedule.

 

Remember Joe Lugoff, good things come to those who wait it out long enough and patience is a good thing and see? We got it and it's coming AND an extended version to boot. Puts the VHS version now to shame. 1/21/2014



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Posted October 17 2013 - 04:44 PM

I'm really looking forward to this release and appreciate the many hours of hard work that have gone into getting this film as close to what it was on premiere night as possible.  This is the version I will share with other dedicated fans of the film.

 

However, after all the dust has settled and I've satisfied my curiosity with the extended footage, what I really want going forward for sharing with more casual audiences is a corrected version of the standard, shorter roadshow release without any compromised footage, but with a corrected title sequence and all the overture, intermission and exit music retained and properly presented.  Will the standard version be the shortened roadshow with overture, etc. or will it be the "general release" version without the added music?


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Posted October 17 2013 - 04:57 PM

This looks like a great set for fans.  On my "Must buy" list for sure.  Exciting!!



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Posted October 17 2013 - 05:15 PM

Not to disparage the serious side of Stanley Kramer's career, but I think it's kind of wonderful that his least serious film has come to represent so many truly profound aspects of show business, cinema, and life (not to mention home video) to so many people.



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Posted October 17 2013 - 05:18 PM

In honor of the great news of this release, I had a couple of old fashion's after dinner tonight. Now channeling my inner Jim Backus. Not to worry, Buddy and Mickey are flying the plane!

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Posted October 17 2013 - 05:21 PM

...which is why I said "35mm version" instead of "second Roadshow edit"

I know YOU knew what you meant, but I always think its important to clarify what might be confusing to others :)



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Posted October 17 2013 - 05:30 PM

Man, when you fall out of the loop for a while, news like this is pretty cool.

 

Congratulations to Mr. Harris on finally getting the chance to restore this film after...what, ten years?

 

I just hope I don't kick the bucket before this comes out...


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Posted October 17 2013 - 05:34 PM

And glad Joe is now happy with the news and he can finally enjoy life once and resume with his regulary-scheduled program(s) or life schedule.

 

Remember Joe Lugoff, good things come to those who wait it out long enough and patience is a good thing and see? We got it and it's coming AND an extended version to boot. Puts the VHS version now to shame. 1/21/2014

 

Yeah, but you know what?  I was 14 when I first wanted to see the complete original roadshow version.

 

When I see it in January, I'll be almost 64.

 

So being the negative, cranky pessimist I am, I'm thinking, "This should have happened a long time ago."  I'm not in a "better late than never" mood right now.

 

As for "good things happen to those who wait it out long enough," you do know that eventually we all run out of time.  Let's stop a think a minute for the people who didn't live to see this, like 99% of the cast! :(

 

If there had been home video back then, a deluxe "director's cut" set would have come out in 1965!

 

OK, I'm through.







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