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#21 of 45 OFFLINE   westham

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Posted October 21 2013 - 04:56 AM

Yes I will be looking at the TT release but don't want the cost of a 3rd version unless there are transfer improvements. Also be nice to see some decent chapter marks too so you can jump to the key scenes.



#22 of 45 OFFLINE   Ethan Riley

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Posted October 21 2013 - 09:20 AM

Waiting for specs, so I can see if it's a different transfer or something.
 

 


#23 of 45 OFFLINE   Doug Bull

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Posted October 21 2013 - 02:53 PM

I'm guessing that the recent Australian release is probably the same as the UK and other European releases.

The Aussie Blu-ray looks very good.

 

It's hard to imagine that Sony would spend a lot of money creating a new HD master for International release and then do it all over again just for TT.

The isolated score might be the only difference, still I hope I'm wrong and that an even better transfer has been prepared for TT.

 

We will soon find out.

 

As a side note, though "Oliver" was advertised and presented as a Roadshow presentation at the time (late 60s), Australians were hoodwinked and actually only got to see a standard 35mm print.

I was somewhat shocked to discover this recently.

For all these years I truly believed we saw the 70mm version.

 

The first 70mm showing in Sydney was in April 1981.

 

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Edited by Doug Bull, October 21 2013 - 03:22 PM.


#24 of 45 OFFLINE   bob kaplan

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Posted October 22 2013 - 10:14 AM

Does anyone know when we might place and order with SCREEN ARCHIVES ENTERTAINMENT?



#25 of 45 OFFLINE   Robert Crawford

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Posted October 22 2013 - 10:20 AM

Does anyone know when we might place and order with SCREEN ARCHIVES ENTERTAINMENT?

Here you go as preorders won't start until tomorrow,the 23rd at 4:00 p.m. ET.

 

http://www.screenarc...s.com/index.cfm


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#26 of 45 OFFLINE   bob kaplan

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Posted October 22 2013 - 06:07 PM

thank ya!!



#27 of 45 OFFLINE   Kenneth_C

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Posted October 22 2013 - 06:47 PM

From a discussion on TT's Facebook page:

 

 

 

The transfer will be the same [as the UK/German release] (however the authoring will be different) -- we have chapter stops with images on the pop-up menu... and a few extras unique to our release...

 

Also:

 

 

SAE will be adding this info to the Oliver! pre-order page - "PLEASE NOTE: As the separate music stems have not survived, the isolated score track from Oliver! has been prepared from the restored 4.0 MAG M&E -- which means that while the music sounds wonderful, there are sound effects present throughout."

 


Edited by Kenneth_C, October 22 2013 - 06:49 PM.


#28 of 45 OFFLINE   Doug Bull

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Posted October 22 2013 - 07:14 PM

So the TT transfer is the same as used for the currently available International Blu-rays after all.

 

I'll now stick with the cheaper Aussie release and forgo the different Menu, chapter stops and the separated Music/Effects track.

 

Those that go with the TT disc should be happy with the Picture and Sound quality.

 

 

Thanks for that info Ken. You saved me doubling up.



#29 of 45 OFFLINE   Ray H

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Posted October 23 2013 - 08:30 AM

The international release doesn't have chapter stops at all? Or it just doesn't have a scene selection menu?


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#30 of 45 OFFLINE   westham

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Posted October 23 2013 - 08:31 AM

The international release doesn't have chapter stops at all? Or it just doesn't have a scene selection menu?

 

It does have chapter stops but no scene selection menu at all - all very basic. The TT release looks like it will be addressing this point very nicely with a re-authored release.



#31 of 45 OFFLINE   DP 70

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Posted October 23 2013 - 08:40 AM

Thanks for the info Ken.

#32 of 45 OFFLINE   Robert Harris

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Posted October 23 2013 - 09:08 AM

[font="'times new roman', times, serif;"]For those interested in such things, the number of prints struck for the original release, beginning in the fall of 1968, was as follows:[/font]

 

[font="'times new roman', times, serif;"]18 70mm prints struck via optical blow-up from the original camera negatives.  [/font]

[font="'times new roman', times, serif;"]     [/font][font="'times new roman', times, serif;font-size:18px;"]All 70mm prints were struck at Tech London.[/font]

 

[font="'times new roman', times, serif;"]11 35mm dye transfer Fox perf prints struck in 4-track magnetic, beginning in [/font]

[font="'times new roman', times, serif;"]     March of 1969[/font]

 

[font="'times new roman', times, serif;"]10 35mm dye transfer optical prints struck by Technicolor UK for the original    [/font]

[font="'times new roman', times, serif;"]     release from [/font][font="'times new roman', times, serif;"]October of 1968 through [/font][font="'times new roman', times, serif;font-size:18px;"]May of 1969, with another 93 for later [/font]

[font="'times new roman', times, serif;font-size:18px;"]     dates, beginning in June of 1970.[/font]

 

[font="'times new roman', times, serif;"]US domestic prints were struck via dye transfer at Tech Hollywood.[/font]

 

[font="'times new roman', times, serif;"]What these numbers, in their most basic sense, tell us, is that the original camera negative was run at least 30 times, plus any re-prints for complete reels, as well as heads and tails of 70mm damaged in projection.[/font]

 

 

 

[font="'times new roman', times, serif;"]RAH[/font]


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#33 of 45 OFFLINE   Ethan Riley

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Posted October 23 2013 - 11:58 AM

Now available for pre-order.
 

 


#34 of 45 OFFLINE   MatthewA

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Posted October 23 2013 - 12:05 PM

Pre-ordered!


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Posted October 23 2013 - 12:17 PM

Pre-ordered!

Same here. Now I can sleep. 😴
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Posted October 23 2013 - 12:19 PM

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Posted October 23 2013 - 01:54 PM

If you will be in the Pocono (Pennsylvania) area on Sunday, November 17 you can see Oliver! on the "big" screen.

 

http://poconocommuni...revival-series/

 

Note: I do not work for this theater, I am only a fan and member. (they're a non-profit)

 

Although some revivals are shown from Blu-Ray, this is more likely a beautiful DCP.



#38 of 45 OFFLINE   JoHud

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Posted October 23 2013 - 02:19 PM

My bank account is now $100 lighter.



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Posted October 23 2013 - 02:22 PM

My bank account is now $100 lighter.

Same here!



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Posted October 23 2013 - 04:04 PM

Moi trois.







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