Also, I thought it might be worth mentioning the brouhaha going on on another Blu-ray site, one which thinks it is the only Blu-ray site people frequent, and one which has been so very vocal in their dislike for Twilight Time, regurgitating the same thing over and over and over again in hundreds upon hundreds of pages of postings, most made by the same ten or fifteen people ad nauseum. I have had people there say the most specious and personal things about me, and when I have responded my posts were removed and I was banned - repeatedly.
Recently, Twilight Time took them off their promo list and now one of their reviewers has posted the reasons, only those reasons have little to do with why the action was taken. And naturally, there are a lot of brickbats being thrown in the direction of the HTF. So, let's at least set the record straight. Here is what their reviewer posted in response to queries about there not being a review of The Other (there since is, so the reviewer obviously bought it):
[font="verdana, geneva, lucida, 'lucida grande', arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(230,235,240);"]"To those who have posted here and sent me so many emails and PMs, here's what's going on in a nutshell: yes, Twilight Time has stopped sending screeners. Mr. Redman has had issues with the fact that (in his perception) so many people here (including some Mr. Redman felt were posting as "official" representatives of the site) post negative comments about his label. [/font]
[font="verdana, geneva, lucida, 'lucida grande', arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(230,235,240);"]I find this particularly disheartening for several reasons, including the fact that I was among the first champions of the label, being one of the first journalists to interview Mr. Redman about the label and then covering each and every release (giving so many positive reviews that some of you here accused me of being a label shill [/font][font="verdana, geneva, lucida, 'lucida grande', arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(230,235,240);"]), and in fact every time Mr. Redman has brought something particularly objectionable to my attention (and there have been some posts here I personally feel have crossed the line), I've attempted to deal with it as quickly as possible. [/font]
[font="verdana, geneva, lucida, 'lucida grande', arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(230,235,240);"]This all of course ignores the fact that we live in a free society where dissenting opinion is constitutionally protected (even about Blu-ray releases LOL), and it also ignores the fact that the vast majority of posts here are "pro-Twilight Time", which I think ultimately is the real disservice that has been done to our readership. Unlike other sites that censor negative posts, we have a more liberal policy, though I will state up front we have a very active and professional moderation team that keeps things within the bounds of propriety. (The fact that I and the readership are being "punished" for other people's opinions is a bit strange, but I digress.)[/font]
[font="verdana, geneva, lucida, 'lucida grande', arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(230,235,240);"]The good news here is that I will be picking up occasional Twilight Time releases myself and posting reviews as I have the time. I truly appreciate all the inquiries I've had from those who prefer the Blu-ray.com reviews of this material. It means a lot to receive such generously positive feedback."[/font]
Point One: Mr. Redman's issue was not in any way with the relentless negative and repetitive posts being lobbed in the Twilight Time direction, and usually by the same people. As he has said, if he was to stop sending screeners to all the sites where there are negative posts and reviews they'd send out no screeners at all. That has never been the issue - he gets that it's the same people doing the complaining over and over again. His issue is not with those people, but with the moderators of that site's board, who fan those flames repeatedly and stir the pot repeatedly. For my money, that is the exact opposite of what a moderator should do.
Point two: When the person who posted says the vast majority of the posts are pro Twilight Time that is especially humorous, as even a perfunctory read over there will tell you the exact opposite. But it's the moderators who rankled Nick and Brian - even though they will deny it (and amusingly the two mods in question have been conspicuous by their absence since the above post was made), they have nuked many pro Twilight Time posts, they have, as stated, fanned the negative flames relentlessly (two of them in particular and one being the worst) - any negative post is allowed to stand, but something positive gets posted and it's pulled down? Where is the defense of that? They will, of course, deny this, but I've watched it happen time and again with my own eyes. And they banned a poster we all know here, RoClock, and the reason for banning him? "Banned for being a Twilight Time booster" or words to that effect.
If I posted this same thing in the Twilight Time thread there you can be certain it would be removed instantly, while all the other snarky posts lobbed in my direction would stay. The bile that is being spilled there even now is breathtaking in its negativity and vindictiveness. According to these people, most of the Twilight Time sales come from that site. Really? All I read is how the majority hate the business model, refuse to pay the prices asked and blah, blah, blah. I'm sure some sales have come from people who read that site, but they really do think they are the most read site on all the Internet and I think the people calling for a boycott there will result in exactly zero sales being lost. And yes, there was a boycott Twilight Time thread - it seems to have disappeared because I do think that they ultimately would like to be back on the promo list, which is why I also think those two moderators have been silent since the post was made. Maybe I'm wrong about that, but why would anyone send people like that screeners when two of the moderators do this negative stuff repeatedly? As to whether they are owners of the site or not, who knows and it doesn't really matter. If they are not owners, then the owners should slap them silly and tell them it is not their job to fan the flames of negativity. If they want to do that it's fine, but not as moderators. Moderators should be dispassionate and moderate issues between posters.
Reading this stuff over there, and especially the negative stuff being said about this site's reviewers and board, is a lesson in why this board, despite the occasional dust-up, is a much more fun place to be. And yes, there have been plenty of posts that are negative about Twilight Time made here and isn't it funny that the HTF reviewers still get their screeners. I think that says everything that need be said. They put down Mr. Harris repeatedly as well as the reviewers here, trumpeting their own. Really?
Edited by haineshisway, October 10 2013 - 02:26 PM.