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#61 of 74 OFFLINE   Jason_V

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Posted October 14 2014 - 08:25 PM

The Fish Mooney scenes are the weakest part of the show, just isn't doing anything for me. 

 

Agreed. That's the one part of the show I just don't care for. I keep wondering why Jada signed on for this role in particular.

 

That being said, the series is being very inclusive and open minded in regards to sexual orientation. First there's Barbara and Montoya and then Mooney's question to the singers. In particular, I really liked Jim's response to Barbara...it wasn't that she was in a same sex relationship. That part he didn't seem to blink an eye about.



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Posted October 15 2014 - 10:08 AM

For obvious reasons, I get squeamish with anything eye related, which made some of this unwatchable for me but still a great ep!

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Posted October 17 2014 - 06:53 AM

I'm surprised Fish didn't have those 2 female singers do a sing-off battle, oh wait, that was "The Voice"...


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#64 of 74 OFFLINE   Matt Hough

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Posted October 20 2014 - 06:25 PM

Very enjoyable episode tonight. The clash of the two gangs (with Fish doing her own thing) is interesting, and I'm loving the way Bruce Wayne is maturing. Looks like his childhood is basically over. Sad but appropriate for the character.



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Posted October 20 2014 - 06:43 PM

Two things stood out to me from tonight's episode:

1) It looks like the show won't entirely shy away from the more science fiction-y villains in Batman's rogues gallery. According to the professor, the militarized version of Viper is called Venom. Which, of course, is the green stuff going through the tubes in Bane's neck.

2) I might have underestimated what Jada Pinkett Smith is doing with the Fish Mooney character. I thought her scenery chewing was a misread of the tone of the show. But when she's not entertaining cops or all of the mobs, she pretty much drops the show. And then, while she's coaching the singer girl with the lethal streak, we see her calibrate the girl's performance quite prescisely. Fish Mooney, it seems, is a performance even for Fish Mooney.

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Posted October 20 2014 - 09:08 PM

Solid episode, Mooney is still the least interesting part of the show but will see how it goes as the season progresses. I figured the "Viper" drug was a form of "Venom" when we saw the guitarist gain increased strength. There was enough loose ends for Bane to appear down the road. I liked how the Waynetech employee lied to Bruce and then showed up at the end when Gordon was searching the warehouse. I think my favourite part was when Alfred sat down with Bruce to search through the files. The show gets better each week.



#67 of 74 OFFLINE   Sean Bryan

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Posted October 20 2014 - 09:16 PM

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#68 of 74 ONLINE   Patrick Sun

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Posted October 22 2014 - 12:13 PM

FYi: Morena Baccarin is joining the cast...


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Posted October 22 2014 - 12:29 PM

FYi: Morena Baccarin is joining the cast...

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#70 of 74 OFFLINE   Josh Steinberg

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Posted October 22 2014 - 12:47 PM

I kinda hated that the show went all sci-fi with its magic bone eating, super strength making inhalant. And I'm usually the guy that loves everything sci-fi, but I think one of the things I really like about Batman (or perhaps, a certain kind of interpretation of Batman) is that it's somewhat realistic (or at least not totally fantastic) and a response to real-world situations.

That's kinda also a big part of the reason I don't really like when Batman does crossovers with other superheroes.

I'm not going to stop watching the show or anything but this felt more suited for "Fringe" (a show I loved) than "Batman"

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Posted October 23 2014 - 04:51 PM

Sorry, josh I just cannot agree with you. I hate these variations of Batman or other heroes who try to avoid "superpowers" as to remain grounded in reality. Why? These are COMIC BOOK characters. If you want to people with gadgets grounded in reality...watch James Bond.
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#72 of 74 OFFLINE   Josh Steinberg

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Posted October 23 2014 - 05:02 PM

Sorry, josh I just cannot agree with you. I hate these variations of Batman or other heroes who try to avoid "superpowers" as to remain grounded in reality. Why? These are COMIC BOOK characters. If you want to people with gadgets grounded in reality...watch James Bond.

 

Fair enough, we can agree to disagree, and I certainly don't wait to rain on anyone's parade.  I'm all well and fine with supernatural stuff with most of the comic book heroes, but the gritty, almost plausible style of Christopher Nolan's films are the Batman variation I enjoy the most.


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Posted October 23 2014 - 08:14 PM

I've been curious what this entire conversation revolved around this week, so I watched this week's Gotham tonight. The Viper/Venom storyline reminded me the mirakuru from Arrow last season. I don't remember the same complaints being levied against that show for essentially the same thing.

 

In Batman Begins, the Scarecrow's plot is to use a drug to make everyone see things that aren't there and effectively wipe out the city. The same thing essentially happened in Batman (1989) when the drug was put into makeup. And lest we forget Catwoman where makeup was used as the bad guy plot. And The Dark Knight Rises and Bane (not to mention Batman & Robin). So yeah...I'm more more than okay with Viper/Venom/whatever you wanna call it.

 

I'm still not loving the portrayal of Alfred here, though he's not longer the obnoxious jerk I wanted to strangle from the pilot. The moment when Bruce gives him an "order" made me laugh. It was funny on one hand but also showed their evolving relationship, along with what I perceive to be a change in the characters from the writers. Most of the the things that grate on my about the show wee kept in the background this week, including Barbara and Montoya and the eternal Harvey/Jim antagonism.

 

One last thing: I'm always impressed with the movement of the actress who plays Selena. She's got the whole cat thing down to a science and slid right off of the car in the opening scene like nobody's business.



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Posted Yesterday, 05:12 PM

The Penguin is my favorite part of the show and I'm really hoping they bring the Iceberg Casino into play in this series. I'm also guessing that Bulloch put blanks in the gun that Gordon used in the dock scene. The character is shady but still good. I think that would be crossing a line.


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