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#1 of 25 OFFLINE   AC2020x

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Posted September 17 2013 - 05:08 PM

Hello,

 

So I am a beginner when it comes to AV things, but I have an issue I want to see if it is possible to solve.  

 

So I have a Onkyo HT-R557 theater box that I am using.  Our setup for video goes cable box (HDMI) --> Onkyo box  (HDMI) ---> projector.  For audio it goes cable box --->  (Optical) Onkyo box ---> (speaker wires) Speakers (left and right).  

 

So this setup is working perfectly with the cable box and optical cape setting.  

 

This issue comes when I want to connect my computer into the system.  I want to go Computer ---> (HDMI) Onkyo box-- then have the onkyo box to output audio to the speakers, and video to the projector.  

 

In the manual, it says that if audio/video is coming in through HDMI, then it must also go out through HDMI.  

 

Does anyone know of any work around that will allow me to output HDMI video to the projector and HDMI audio to the speakers?  

 

Thanks!

 

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Posted September 17 2013 - 05:24 PM

Buy a newer receiver that processes audio off HDMI.

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Posted September 17 2013 - 05:26 PM

So you mean a new box instead of the Onkyo?  Do you have any examples or know of what I should look for to see if it has this feature?  



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Posted September 17 2013 - 05:30 PM

Every receiver made the last 4 years. Pick one.

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Posted September 17 2013 - 06:43 PM

Okay, sounds good.. thanks for the help!  

 

I'll look around and see what I can find.  If anyone has any recommendations, I'm all ears.  I'm looking for something cheap, with multiple HDMI inputs.  

 

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Posted September 17 2013 - 07:01 PM

How many HDMI do you need? 

Need composite or component HDMI conversion?

How cheap?



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Posted September 17 2013 - 07:26 PM

I'm looking for at least 3 HDMI ports.  I don't need compositve or component.  Just HDMI in (x3) and HDMI out (x1) and the ability to have audio go to the speakers rather than the HDMI out.  

 

I'm definitely trying to keep it under $200.  I'm looking at a couple options on ebay right now that will work.  I'm just not sure how high the price will go.  



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Posted September 17 2013 - 07:29 PM

http://www.amazon.co...rds=onkyo sr313



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Posted September 18 2013 - 11:17 AM

Are you sure that this one will work.. I looked up the manual and it says on page 16--  

 

* If your TV doesn’t support Audio Return Channel (ARC), you 
need to connect an optical digital cable together with the HDMI 
cable to the AV receiver.
 
I want to avoid using an optical cable since my computer does not have an optical connection.  Or does this mean you need an optical cable only if you want your TV speakers to take the sound (and the TV doesn't support ARC).  
 
I can't tell if this will take HDMI sound/ video in, and then direct HDMI video out, and sound out through the speakers.  In other manuals that I've read from Onkyo, it explicitly says that it has this feature.  


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Posted September 18 2013 - 11:48 AM

This AVR is the centerpiece of the theater and does exactly what you are asking a receiver to do.

 

Which is taking the audio off the HDMI. Meaning your "asterisk" is totally unimportant and unnecessary.

 

You will have three connections with any new AVR that you are asking to take the audio off the HDMI.

 

Cable box -> AVR via HDMI

HTPC -> AVR via HDMI

AVR -> TV via HDMI

 

Period, done.



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Posted September 18 2013 - 12:03 PM

Ok gotcha!

Thanks!  Like I said, I'm still new to AV stuff so it just took me a little to understand this.  I will probably wait to see how high a couple that I"m watching go up to on ebay.  If they go to high, I will likely buy the one from amazon.  And its on Amazon Prime, so I can get 1 day shipping for $4!   :D

 

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Posted September 18 2013 - 12:16 PM

What models are you looking at on Fleabay?

 

Just curious so I know what you are looking at will fulfill your needs.



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Posted September 18 2013 - 12:21 PM

Primarily the onkyo HT RC160.  It has 5 HDMI in ports.  Also, my speakers can plug in and I won't need to wire them into the system, like I would on the TX-SR313.  

 

As far as I can tell, this should fulfill my needs.  I appreciate you looking though!  Here's the listing I'm looking at-    http://www.ebay.com/...984.m1438.l2649



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Posted September 18 2013 - 01:05 PM

That 160 will be good...although I don't think $200 is going to touch it. That, and the guy doesn't mention a remote. Is it included?



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Posted September 19 2013 - 10:16 AM

I asked, and the remote is included.  

 

So far its still a low price.. I guess I'll wait and see what happens.  If it goes to high, I'll buy the amazon one.  

 

Thanks for all your help!



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Posted September 19 2013 - 10:25 AM

It has a reserve price. So, no, it doesn't have a "low price"...till you know what the price is...



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Posted September 19 2013 - 10:45 AM

i'm aware.. I'm hoping its less than $200 though.  

 

Do you think that this one is worth paying up to $200 for?  (assuming it gets bid that high, and the reserve is below $200).  Or do you think if it gets that high I should just go with amazon?  

 

Which box is better?  



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Posted September 19 2013 - 11:06 AM

That AVR has...

 

HDMI upconversion. Do you need it?

Dolby ProLogic IIz. Do you need it?

2nd zone. Do you need it?

 

Does not have 3D ability. Do you need it?

 

The SR313

 

Does not have HDMI upconversion. Do you want it?

Does not have DPL IIz. Do you want it?

Does not have 2nd Zone. Do you want it?

 

Does pass 3D. Do you need it?

 

The 160 is "equal" to the modern NR525. Do you need what the "525 does", minus the 3D?

 

No, I do not think the 160 is going to sell for less than $250. Why?

http://www.amazon.co...ywords=ht rc160

 

That AVR, to me, shows $32 in shipping. Why not bid "whatever it takes" to make it $200 with the shipping. If you don't need the 3D, it is a much more desirable AVR. But with a reserve price...there is absolutely no reason to "wait and see". Throw a bid on it.



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Posted September 19 2013 - 11:13 AM

Here's another one.

http://www.ebay.com/...=item1e7fc39eb4

 

A few people not using "reserve price" have gotten in the low hundreds in price. This guy was wise enough to not screw himself.

http://www.ebay.com/...&_dmd=1&_ipg=50



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Posted September 19 2013 - 11:32 AM

question.  What would be the benefit of getting one with internet and/or bluetooth.  I'm guessing bluetooth speakers (which I don't have).  But what else?  

 

Thanks.. I'll have to keep an eye on some of these! 






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