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#121 of 142 OFFLINE   Mr. Handley

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Posted October 04 2013 - 11:24 AM

I did notice the little "some music may have been replaced" disclaimer on both the new PJ & BH sets...so what else is new?



#122 of 142 OFFLINE   JoeDoakes

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Posted October 04 2013 - 08:41 PM

Exactly the point my friend made. Mike Minor did a lot of singing in later seasons (and even on one crossover episode with TBH). It also worries me with TBH because Flatt and Scruggs made several appearances and Pat Boone made an appearance also.

I could live without Mike Minor's solos, but Flat and Scruggs deletions would be bad.  Most of all, I want Roy Clark's version of The Great Pretender from season 7.  It's probably my favorite moment from that season and, interestingly, he does it in a very similar style to this: http://www.youtube.c...h?v=jGlyn4XfHPQ.



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Posted October 05 2013 - 07:41 AM

I didn't notice any replaced music (admittedly, I haven't watched every episode). But I also don't think the obscure, corny songs performed in later seasons should pose much of a clearance problem with the music. After all, CBS already had to license a song by The Beatles for Season One. It doesn't get more expensive than that. BTW, the Season Three episodes look stunning. Bright, rich colors, sharp focus, nothing short of amazing.

#124 of 142 OFFLINE   Ron Lee Green

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Posted October 05 2013 - 11:13 AM

I hope CBS is able to clear the musical episodes.

I remember one episode later in the series where the girls performed "Up, Up and Away in My Beautiful Balloon."

Betty Jo was pregnant and the girls tried to hide her condition from the audience by covering her belly with balloons while singing the song.

There's no way, CBS could replace the music or cut that scene out of the episode because the whole story depends on it. It is the big build-up to the whole episode.

 

P.S. I am ashamed to admit that I watched two episodes with the Douglases as guests, and I didn't even notice that CBS replaced the Green Acres theme. And here I thought I was a big PJ fan. I watched the show daily on me-tv and even recorded all the episodes so you would think that I would have noticed such a thing.


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#125 of 142 OFFLINE   Rob_Ray

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Posted October 05 2013 - 11:22 AM

I also remember an episode where Betty Jo and Steve perform "No Two People Have Ever Been So Love."

 

And I do remember the episode with "Up, Up and Away", where Bilie Jo comments on Betty Jo's delicate condition by saying "When we sing 'Up Up and Away' they'll know *she's* not going.'"



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Posted October 05 2013 - 11:53 AM

I haven't picked up the PJ set yet but a friend of mine has. Apparently there has been a small amount of music replacement. He's noticed every time Mr. and Mrs. Douglas are in a scene, some sort of synthesizer music plays. He checked his recordings from ME-TV and they play the "Green Acres" theme on those recordings. Apparently, they replaced the music on the DVD's.

 

Well, here we go again.    CBS even now still believes in cutting corners wherever they can with their releases.     I would rather they follow the Warner model of take their time to clear everything before they release anything at all.



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Posted October 05 2013 - 12:17 PM

Well, here we go again.    CBS even now still believes in cutting corners wherever they can with their releases.     I would rather they follow the Warner model of take their time to clear everything before they release anything at all.

Perhaps they tried to clear it? I'm not the biggest fan of CBS but perhaps Fox wasn't the most amicable to deal with for the song rights?


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Posted October 05 2013 - 12:47 PM

Well, here we go again.    CBS even now still believes in cutting corners wherever they can with their releases.     I would rather they follow the Warner model of take their time to clear everything before they release anything at all.

 

I wouldn't mind seeing Warners match the remastering performed on many of the CBS releases.  I suppose they could both still learn a little something from the other.


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Posted October 05 2013 - 03:35 PM

I can see them not wanting to pay for incidental music that honestly isn't missed. A musical performance is a different matter. The remastering is phenomenal on both this and the Hillbillies set. I saw details I never noticed before. I did find it strange that none of the original airdates were listed with the synopses though. On either set.

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Posted October 05 2013 - 04:10 PM

Just watched episode 7, "A Doctor In The House". The Green Acres theme is definitely present.

#131 of 142 OFFLINE   John Karras

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Posted October 05 2013 - 04:29 PM

But I also don't think the obscure, corny songs performed in later seasons should pose much of a clearance problem with the music. After all, CBS already had to license a song by The Beatles for Season One.

Obscure or corny has nothing to do with it. Many of the "corny" songs, as you claim, they sang are known American standards and the publishers will charge what they will. Let's see if they can clear "Love and Marriage" for one of the episodes in an upcoming season.



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Posted October 05 2013 - 04:38 PM

If they can clear The Beatles, that shouldn't be a big deal. And like I said, the Green Acres theme actually is present in at least one episode.

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Posted October 06 2013 - 09:15 AM

^Don't bet on it.  You hear Beatles songs *everywhere* (especially on commercials by people who can't create) because the rights got sold years ago to people who have no respect for "art" and are just after a quick buck.  I'd bet it cost more to license "Love and Marriage" than the most expensive Beatles song in the catalog.



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Posted October 06 2013 - 11:10 AM

Just watched episode 7, "A Doctor In The House". The Green Acres theme is definitely present.

 

That's strange that they would use the Green Acres music for one episode and not the others.

I wonder if they just didn't spot it like the others or someone goofed and forgot to replace it?

If so, they will probably "fix" it so that future pressings won't have the theme.

Right now, its a walmart exclusive, but they might take the theme out when it becomes available from other outlets so I guess we're lucky we got at least one episode with it..


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Posted October 06 2013 - 12:03 PM

Meh. I don't really care if the theme is there or not. The transfers are amazing.

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Posted October 06 2013 - 04:50 PM

I did notice the little "some music may have been replaced" disclaimer on both the new PJ & BH sets...so what else is new?

 

There's also a disclaimer that, "Some episodes may be edited from their original network versions." Whether that's restricted to a few music replacements, or just a "cover your *ss" inclusion in case mistakes were made, remains to be seen. Found plenty of copies of this and TBH at Walmart yesterday.


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Posted October 11 2013 - 04:31 PM

I haven't picked up the PJ set yet but a friend of mine has. Apparently there has been a small amount of music replacement. He's noticed every time Mr. and Mrs. Douglas are in a scene, some sort of synthesizer music plays. He checked his recordings from ME-TV and they play the "Green Acres" theme on those recordings. Apparently, they replaced the music on the DVD's.

 

Just curious about this, and I apologize if this has been answered before, but if so it's eluded me. But how exactly did Green Acres end up being under different ownership and/or distribution from the other two series in the first place?

 

(Other than the above, sounds good for these sets. I need to catch up, I only have the MPI releases and Season 1 of Green Acres so far. And the sequel TV movie Return To Green Acres, which I picked up in one of those Wal-Mart bins.)



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Posted October 11 2013 - 08:01 PM

Just curious about this, and I apologize if this has been answered before, but if so it's eluded me. But how exactly did Green Acres end up being under different ownership and/or distribution from the other two series in the first place?

 

(Other than the above, sounds good for these sets. I need to catch up, I only have the MPI releases and Season 1 of Green Acres so far. And the sequel TV movie Return To Green Acres, which I picked up in one of those Wal-Mart bins.)

I don't know.  I assume that when Paul Henning was developing Green Acres, MGM or some other production company that was absorbed into MGM made him a better deal.  Maybe Filmways wasn't developing new shows by the time of GA.



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Posted October 11 2013 - 10:42 PM

Green Acres was a Filmways production.  Filmways was acquired by Orion in 1982.  To avoid bankruptcy in the 1990s, Orion sold many of its assets.  They sold most of the Filmways product to MGM.  That's how Green Acres ended up there.

 

So the question isn't why is Green Acres MGM, but why aren't The Beverly Hillbillies and Petticoat Junction?

 

It's because long before Orion acquired Filmways, CBS had bought the rights to those two series.

 

Of course, someone was asleep over at CBS and let the first season and a half of Hillbillies fall into the public domain.  That's how MPI was able to release those episodes using copies from Paul Henning's personal collection.



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Posted October 12 2013 - 06:07 AM

Hillbillies and Petticoat Junction had a different ownership percentage deal between Filmways and Paul Henning. Henning created both shows and he had a very advantageous agreement regarding them. Green Acres was created by Jay Sommers and, although Henning certainly owned a piece of it, it was primarily a Filmways property so it went to Orion and MGM with the rest of the library. The earlier shows were distributed by Filmways, but I believe Henning had controlling ownership. They went through Viacom for syndicated distribution and that deal seems to have led to CBS Home Entertainment having the DVD rights.




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