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Next Tuesday 9/10 Will Tell A Lot About CBS


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#21 of 81 JoeDoakes

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Posted September 04 2013 - 01:00 PM

Twenty bucks is a good price point for impulse purchases at Walmart. It should sell decently.

It's a good price point for hard core fans too.  I rarely buy new releases because I figure that I can wait until the price declines.  With a price like this, I may as well go ahead and bite.



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Posted September 04 2013 - 07:53 PM

The only thing that worries me is that they are setting the two shows up for failure. I'm not normally a conspiracy theorist and I hate to rain on the parade. Without a "general" release how will sales be? Look, I'm excited here, I really am. I just hope this doesn't generate low sales figures being what appears a Walmart exclusive, thereby giving them an excuse to not go further and stall out the series.



Could be... Or it could be that Walmart knows its customer base. Where would you send someone who likes hillbilly humour and duck-out-of-water kind of comedy than the giant superfluous box master?
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#23 of 81 Neil Brock

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Posted September 04 2013 - 10:28 PM

They will both be in wide release at a later date. The exclusive is only for a window of time and then they get released fully.



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Posted September 04 2013 - 10:35 PM

Whereupon a certain website can presumably then take its fingers out of its ears.



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Posted September 05 2013 - 05:52 AM

Whereupon a certain website can presumably then take its fingers out of its ears.

Amen to that! If it weren't for this forum I would have no idea this was being released.


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Posted September 05 2013 - 06:14 AM

Whereupon a certain website can presumably then take its fingers out of its ears.

 

I'm a longtime, big fan of that certain website, but it really does make you wonder what service

it does to the DVD collectors to have this policy, when it's pretty darn clear that the only reason

they don't announce exclusive sets is because they aren't available from Amazon, their major

sponsor.   If i'm interested in a set, I don't care where I can buy it, as long as it's available. 

The logic escapes me how fans are served by not spreading the news a show is being released.


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Posted September 05 2013 - 06:24 AM

While any news of unstalling classic series is good news, I'm still flummoxed (and have been for years) over the fact that CBS remastered Love Boat and it's still sitting there unreleased.  With this latest news, it seems to always logically follow that if you see a show has been remastered, that means DVDs are being released, except in this one particular case.  I know a lot of people are not big fans of that show, but does anyone happen to have any idea why this situation exists, such as did the rights get tied up by some possible movie or something like that? 



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Posted September 05 2013 - 07:08 AM

While any news of unstalling classic series is good news, I'm still flummoxed (and have been for years) over the fact that CBS remastered Love Boat and it's still sitting there unreleased.  With this latest news, it seems to always logically follow that if you see a show has been remastered, that means DVDs are being released, except in this one particular case.  I know a lot of people are not big fans of that show, but does anyone happen to have any idea why this situation exists, such as did the rights get tied up by some possible movie or something like that? 

I truly have no idea, but it may have something to do with when they remastered them as compared with sales numbers for season 2. It is possible they remastered seven seasons at one time and then stalled it when season 2 sales figures were poor. That's the only explanation I can think of



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Posted September 05 2013 - 07:40 AM

As far as I'm aware, rights cannot be an issue here because it is their show and even if it weren't, they would never be able to remaster seasons of a show they didn't have the rights to.



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Posted September 05 2013 - 08:04 AM

I suppose there could be music rights that need to be cleared in later seasons that they did not realize until after they remastered the episodes, so while they have them remastered they can't distribute them.



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Posted September 05 2013 - 08:35 AM

I suppose there could be music rights that need to be cleared in later seasons that they did not realize until after they remastered the episodes, so while they have them remastered they can't distribute them.

That could very well be true. There was quite a bit of music used in that show. I't been a long time since I have seen it, but as I recall a lot of it was generic cover versions though. Honestly, I have no idea



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Posted September 05 2013 - 08:48 AM

Love Boat did do a number of "musical" style shows and of course had to accomodate lounge singing numbers too (any time Charo was guesting we had to hear her perform) but I noticed that on S1 and S2 that they did seem to clear everything since no episodes were shorter than they should have been.   

 

We need to have more of this released.    Love Boat and Fantasy Island (which alas is stalled again by Sony and Shout) should have their full runs out so I can have my total escapist junk fare of this era on DVD represented.

 

As to that website's policy, I have seen them mention Best Buy exclusives so I have a sneaking suspicion they have an axe to grind with Walmart specifically.



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Posted September 05 2013 - 09:06 AM

Thanks for the replies...I guess I'm thinking, doesn't remastering cost a fair bit?  I wouldn't think CBS would just go and spend the $ to remaster and then figure out there were music rights issues, and agreed, there was a fair bit of music in the first two seasons and those all seem to be full-length.  Back to the $, you don't see Happy Days remastered past season 4 and the logic follows there.  I guess just makes me think that CBS planned on releasing Love Boat but something unusual came up that precluded it.



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Posted September 05 2013 - 09:16 AM

As to that website's policy, I have seen them mention Best Buy exclusives so I have a sneaking suspicion they have an axe to grind with Walmart specifically.

 

That policy may extend to Super D related companies as well (e.g., ImportCDS, DeepDiscount) since they refused to list the WBA "SugarFoot" release at ImportCDs before it became available at Amazon a month or so later for $10 more. In addition, the set I received from ImportCDs had commercially "pressed" disks instead of the DVD-R disks i was told Amazon was distributing.



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Posted September 05 2013 - 10:57 AM

Absolutely!   The hold up has been so frustrating.  I remember how naive I was back when the

first season announcement was made that it would be split in half season sets, thinking that

it would take longer for the sets come out.  I had no idea how long we'd be waiting, given that

was 2008, and here we are 5 and a half years later, still waiting for news of Season 3.

 

I was very hopeful for more Love Boat on DVD when Fantasy Island started up releases again,

but given that even Shout! seems to have lost interest there, we're left just waiting for news.

 

 

 

We need to have more of this released.    Love Boat and Fantasy Island (which alas is stalled again by Sony and Shout) should have their full runs out so I can have my total escapist junk fare of this era on DVD represented.

 



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Posted September 05 2013 - 11:25 AM

I remember episodes where old stars would sing medleys. Probably a lot of music to clear.
 

 


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Posted September 05 2013 - 05:18 PM

Love Boat went downhill faster than a lot of other long running shows.  Its hard to believe that CBS thought there would be a big market for the mermaids. Perhaps Aaron Spelling or his estate had something to do with the remastering.



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Posted September 05 2013 - 05:40 PM

The mermaids weren't until S9, the last season.     We still haven't gotten through the heart of the period when the show was at its peak popularity.



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Posted September 05 2013 - 05:54 PM

Amen to that! If it weren't for this forum I would have no idea this was being released.

I didn't even know these titles were coming out until I came across this section of the website. Still no reports about these two shows on TVShowsonDVD.com as of this writing.



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Posted September 05 2013 - 06:32 PM

Shame on them for putting some dubious principle of theirs ahead of acting responsibly.

 

I'd note also that because David chose to publicly trumpet this policy on *this* site and in *this* forum, it make his site fair game for well-earned criticism as a result.






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