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#1 of 11 mjames9999

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Posted August 28 2013 - 09:23 AM

Hello all. I am building a new house. Do to wife acceptance factor (WAF) I am not able to use all of my B&W free standing speakers, subs and side and rear channels. She wants me to do everything with in-walls. Here is what I have so far:

Primary listening position is 13 feet from the 65" Plasma.
Plasma is mounted above the fireplace, 70" above the floor
Center channel will be 60" above the floor.
Fronts channels, Side channels and rear channels will be 40.5" above the floor. (ear level)
Sub is below the window. The window starts at 23" above the floor.
The front wall is 16 feet across.

Here are the compromises and concerns:
My rear left channel is directly behind the primary listening position.
My rear right channel is approximately 4.5 feet from my left
I cannot go higher than 40.5" in the rear left and right channels because these are mounted in a 1/2 wall
Location for front speakers is either 1) all the way to the left wall and to the right of the right window *or* to the right and left side of the fireplace.
If I go with option #1, I would assume I need speakers that have tilt capable tweeters toward the primary viewing position? Option 1 also would be a tight squeeze on the left wall..I may have to cut away some of the 2x4?..maybe..not sure. Option #2.. the right and left speaker would be fairly close together (its a 36" fireplace inset and there are 2 areas to the right and left they could be mounted, but again, its going to be tight.

Thoughts on this setup?
Also looking for recommendations of in-wall speakers? Looking for bang for your buck as budget is tight.

 

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#2 of 11 mjames9999

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Posted August 28 2013 - 11:33 AM

Also, would I want to use Dipole/Bipole Speakers in the 2 sides and 2 rears?  Or would direct firing be better. Or would it be better with direct firing on the sides and dipole / bipole on the rears?
 I will be 40.5" off the floor for all 4.



#3 of 11 schan1269

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Posted August 28 2013 - 12:11 PM

You can't do in-ceiling?

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Posted August 28 2013 - 01:10 PM

For just the side channels and rear channels?  or are you talking Ceiling for all of them?



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Posted August 28 2013 - 02:14 PM

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The photos above are of the spec house..not the house we are building.  The house we are building has cathedral ceilings (not flat as in the picture)

 

Above is the actual build as it stands today.



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Posted August 28 2013 - 02:15 PM

The four surrounds.

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Posted August 28 2013 - 02:16 PM

I just posted that the ceiling is cathedral style.  Would you still recommend this?



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Posted August 28 2013 - 02:23 PM

Been using my phone all day, not looked at any pics you've provided.

Is the couch going to be floating in the room, or are you going to put all your seating along the walls?

Cathedral, is not an issue. Standard bookshelf speakers hanging from mounts would be preferred. Fishing speaker wire into those walls is going to be ridiculously expensive.

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Posted August 28 2013 - 02:29 PM

We have not started drywalling.  We are at the framing stage only

We are using an L shaped couch sectional.  The long part will go down the left wall and the short part is the primary listening/viewing location.

I would think that having side speakers at ear level would be the best?  I can use direct firing, dipoles or bipoles.  Is there a reason why not?  As far as the rear channels, not sure at all.



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Posted August 28 2013 - 03:17 PM

Best would be a room where you didn't have to throw the entire "right way to do 7.1" out the window.

Working within the confines of where the walls are, I'd do in ceiling.

Last I did a cathedral ceiling, I had custom speaker mounts made with PVC pipe covered in aluminum tape, slipped inside clear PVC tubing. The speakers used were the Waterfall Audio Elora.

Since the speakers are glass, and the mount appeared invisible...it worked.

#11 of 11 Brian Dobbs

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Posted August 30 2013 - 06:26 AM

Cathedral ceilings will invite a lot of reverberation.  Sound will be muddled and harder to understand, especially with in-walls.  You should look into acoustical treatments.  Maybe your wife can help in this area.


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