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#41 of 48 Raptor382

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Posted August 29 2013 - 03:40 AM

"I would only recommend the Primus line if you are driving them with excessive power. The other speaker lines you are considering would likely be more forgiving with AVR power and outperform Primus. In my experience Primus is justification for a powerful dedicated amp, without it they seem anemic and thin."

 

If this is true, then somewhere down the line, after I get the whole system assembled, I may look into some dedicated amps.  What is the best way to go about purchasing dedicated amps.  Ive looked online at A4L, and even their 5 channel amps are expensive.  I'm assuming it may be cheaper to just buy a 2 channel amp for my mains, then another amp for my center?  As someone else mentioned on this forum in another thread, amp your mains and center and let the AVR power the surrounds? 



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Posted August 29 2013 - 05:17 AM

Yep.

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Posted August 29 2013 - 07:50 AM

Youll likely be fine, ignorance is bliss.  Going from AVR to amp wont be real obvious.  However amp to AVR, after youre used to the performance an amp gives them, it immediately left a bad taste in my mouth.  Its also about how you listen. I personally like high impact and as tight a midrange as I can get.  I also listen to my music and movies pretty loud, rock and action respectively. I think the Primus is more power demanding than most choices in your price range, so when you put it all together its not really a surprise I would notice a difference between an AVR and amp.  Depending on your speaker choice and listening habits you, on the other hand,  may never notice the difference.    


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Posted August 30 2013 - 02:41 AM

thanks, like i said, i may look into it down the line, not going to worry about it just yet. 

 

now, for my surrounds and sub.  i was thinking about the p163 bookshelf speakers for my surrounds, however, im wondering if those might be a bit overkill as surrounds and maybe i should look at one of their lesser lines, maybe the 153's or 143's.

 

for the sub, im thinking probably a 12" is going to be enough, unless i can find a good deal on a 15".  What is the difference between the front firing and down firing?  does it make any difference in the sound? 

 

Im wanting to find a sub that goes into the under 30Hz range, with plenty of power to make the bass heard and felt, cleanly.  im going to start comparing prices to numbers and see what i come up with, but do any of you have a recommendation?

 

also, in this image below, notice i have my sub on the left of my TV, away from the corner.  If I were to move it to the other side, in the corner, how would that effect the sound.  I want my sub to have a good clean, deep sound, but dont want it to be boomy, would the corner enhance the sound, or would it make it worse?

 

 

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Posted August 30 2013 - 05:07 AM

I will give you three movies that would beg, and I mean beg, for the biggest surround speakers you can fit...

 

Underworld: Awakening

Immortal Beloved

Curious Case of Benjamin Button

 

My surround speakers(look them up)...

 

BIC V820(four of them for 7.1. Actually doing 9.1 with height. The heights are V62)

DCM TF350 

Infinity Crescendo 3007(part of my office system with 4 3007 and a homemade "3006 re-fitted to be a TV stand")



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Posted August 30 2013 - 08:11 AM

Theyre overkill if you plan on doing a standard 80 Hz crossover.  However for all channel stereo processing,  like you might use with music where full range is sent to the surround channels, the 163 would be of benefit.

 

I think 12" is standard, Im not sure if there are drawbacks or benefits to a 15".  As for placement I think youll have to experiment and see what sounds best in your room.  Google sub crawl for different methods of determining the best locations.  Corners reinforce bass so placing a sub in corners will give you a boost.   


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Posted August 30 2013 - 03:30 PM

Now that I see your diagram...

 

Move your couch off the wall. Put it "up against" your coffee table...then move your coffee table. You should, ideally, have enough room off the back wall to comfortably walk around the couch. That is if you want proper speaker/seating distance.



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Posted September 17 2013 - 09:37 AM

This maybe a little late, but I just rain into it today. An actually review of the Pl-89 2 compared to other speakers: http://floor-standin...tenreviews.com/






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