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TSoD reports that yes, seasons 1-4 and The Next Doctor are just upscaled versions.AndyMcKinney said:I guess the really big question is, will this release contain any of the extras that were missed on previous releases (for example, the collection of deleted scenes that were supposedly "lost" before the Series One DVDs came out, and was supposedly "found" on a hard drive after it was too late to include them.
One thing to keep in mind: when The Next Doctor was upscaled for "The Specials", a line of dialogue went missing. There is the potential for more mistakes this time around as it's four years worth of episodes this time.
If it's just going to be straight upscales of what's already been released, then no-thank-you as far as I'm concerned. My Oppo does a fine job with upscaling on its own. I'm sure the UK market would also appreciate "The Specials" to be included in 50i on the (yet unsolicited) Region B version, since they got saddled with the same 60i conversion the US got because the BBC cheaped-out.
I suspect, though, "The Specials" and "Series 5-7" will be clones of the existing discs. I also suspect that 1080p is a misprint and it will be 1080i as with most other BBC Blu-rays.
That they're upscales is a given. What isn't known for sure, though, is whether the bonus features will be exactly the same, or some stuff will be added (or changed) from DVD releases.The Obsolete Man said:TSoD reports that yes, seasons 1-4 and The Next Doctor are just upscaled versions.
http://www.tvshowsondvd.com/news/Doctor-Series-1-through-7-Blu/18719
I think music licencing costs (mostly) will prevent that from happening.Lord Dalek said:Would be nice if they could include the full Confidental episodes this time by I doubt it.
If you can play Region 2/PAL, the Complete Series 1-4 DVD boxset will give you much thinner cases than the individual DVD releases...Jonathan_Clarke said:Interesting. When I talked to the team in charge of mastering the classic episodes for dvd at a con, they were confident that seasons 1-4 would NEVER be available on blu-ray. Not only were these standard definition, but the 24 frame format degraded it even further. The res on these was below videotape! DVD was more resolution than these episodes needed.
Sadly, I still want these just for the thin cases.
Which line of dialogue? Was the picture missing also, or just audio?AndyMcKinney said:One thing to keep in mind: when The Next Doctor was upscaled for "The Specials", a line of dialogue went missing. There is the potential for more mistakes this time around as it's four years worth of episodes this time.
The only Doctor Who story (aside from the Peter Cushing movies) to be shot 24 frames per second was the 1996 Eighth Doctor TV movie that was a co-production between Fox and the BBC. The classic episodes were shot either 50i or 25p. From Planet of the Dead onwards, the new episodes have been shot 1080p25. Series 1-4 and The Next Doctor were shot 50i that was then "filmised" to 25p for broadcast.Jonathan_Clarke said:Interesting. When I talked to the team in charge of mastering the classic episodes for dvd at a con, they were confident that seasons 1-4 would NEVER be available on blu-ray. Not only were these standard definition, but the 24 frame format degraded it even further. The res on these was below videotape! DVD was more resolution than these episodes needed.
I don't know from first-hand experience, but It was noted by Stephen James Walker in his book 'End of Ten'. The errors in the blu-ray upscale of "The Next Doctor" are:1. a missing line of Doctor's dialogue;2. another line of dialogue is a different take from the transmitted (& DVD) version;3. some different incidental music;4. a missing electronic effect in the Miss Hartigan scenes immediately followingBryan Tuck said:Which line of dialogue? Was the picture missing also, or just audio?
If those are all audio issues, then it's nothing to do with the upscale, but with the 5.1 remix. Could be creative revisions, could be an accident. Thanks for bringing it up, though; weird.AndyMcKinney said:I don't know from first-hand experience, but It was noted by Stephen James Walker in his book 'End of Ten'. The errors in the blu-ray upscale of "The Next Doctor" are:1. a missing line of Doctor's dialogue;2. another line of dialogue is a different take from the transmitted (& DVD) version;3. some different incidental music;4. a missing electronic effect in the Miss Hartigan scenes immediately followingher conversion into the CyberKing Controller.
Since that time, Stephen has reportedly told someone it's been awhile since he wrote that and doesn't remember the exact details anymore.
I assumed on point 4, about a missing "electronic" effect, it might have meant a video FX shot, but perhaps it was sound FX. I guess there's really no way to know without sitting down and watching both versions, and I know that I am certainly not up for that task!Bryan Tuck said:If those are all audio issues, then it's nothing to do with the upscale, but with the 5.1 remix. Could be creative revisions, could be an accident. Thanks for bringing it up, though; weird.
Bryan Tuck said:Has anyone gotten this? I've been reading on other forums that on at least Seasons 1-4, the episodes have actually been slowed down to 24p as part of the remastering process.
Does anyone know if this is true? It certainly seems to be the case on the new Day of the Doctor Blu-ray.