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#1 of 16 OFFLINE   HDNutts2010

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Posted May 26 2013 - 09:47 AM

I picked up a 3D TV today and I am having a probably with all my 3D Blu-rays. When I play the DVD it displays the following message: "This Disc has recognized that your player and/or display does not support 3D playback"

 

My equipment is:

 

Sony BDP-S590 Blu-Ray 3D player

Sharp LC70LE857U LED TV

AudioQuest Cinnamon *Black) HDMI Cable   (2 years old)

Pioneer VSX-23TXH receiver

 

But when I go direct from my 3D Blu-ray player to my TV HDMI input the message doesn't display, and the 3D Blu-ray plays. Do I assume it is my receiver causing the failed detection or the proper equipment?  Is there a solution or a manual override to get DVD's to play even when it false detects the equipment?

 

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#2 of 16 OFFLINE   Steve Tannehill

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Posted May 26 2013 - 09:56 AM

Your Pioneer receiver is only HDMI 1.3a.  You need HDMI 1.4 to support 3D.

 

Your only workaround is to run the HDMI directly to your TV, and audio from the blu-ray player to your receiver.  Assuming the Sony even has audio out.

 

If you had an Oppo blu-ray player, you would have dual HDMI, and could run one to your TV and one to your receiver and maintain hi-res audio.



#3 of 16 OFFLINE   Ejanss

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Posted May 26 2013 - 10:35 AM

I picked up a 3D TV today and I am having a probably with all my 3D Blu-rays. When I play the DVD it displays the following message: "This Disc has recognized that your player and/or display does not support 3D playback"

 

If it's your first day and a Sony player, it's probably similar to the first day with a new set and a Playstation 3:

The player might be tied in with the functions of the TV set, and needs to know that you now have 3DTV capability--Like the PS3, there should be some Display calibrations on the player setup to identify that your monitor can now show "1080p (3D)"/"720p (3D)"; otherwise, the player will play any "soft" 3D downloadables in 2D, but reject any inserted 3D disks unless told that it can.

 

There could be other reasons, but that's the most common for it not taking the hard disks.



#4 of 16 OFFLINE   Johnny Angell

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Posted May 26 2013 - 12:14 PM

I think Steve has it right. I have an oppo and run an HDMI directly to the TV and to the receiver.
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Posted May 26 2013 - 12:43 PM

Unless you buy a new receiver or a new Blu-ray player with dual HDMI outs (Panasonic has a model with two HDMIs that's cheaper than an Oppo), you'll have to use the optical audio out from the player if you want surround sound (but it won't be lossless, of course).



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Posted May 26 2013 - 12:58 PM

Unless you buy a new receiver or a new Blu-ray player with dual HDMI outs (Panasonic has a model with two HDMIs that's cheaper than an Oppo), you'll have to use the optical audio out from the player if you want surround sound (but it won't be lossless, of course).

 

The HDMI usually oversees a lot of the tie-in functions (eg. won't start playing the disk until the TV is on), so if anything comes in between, it interferes with a lot of the messages about where the 3D signal is going--If it's going to a non-3D capable receiver, the player's going to think it's going to a non-3D set. 

If you don't want to upgrade your receiver, you'll need a bypass around the stereo system that will still keep your HDMI going as directly between the player and TV as possible.


Edited by Ejanss, May 26 2013 - 01:02 PM.


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Posted May 26 2013 - 01:15 PM

With the Oppo you can still have the lossless audio.

 

I have the Pioneer VSX-21 (same generation as his 23).  I run the "preferred" HDMI line (check the Oppo manual for that) out to the receiver for everyday use, and the other HDMI line directly to the TV.  To watch 3D, all I have to do is select the other HDMI input on the TV.  I'm not changing anything at the receiver -- it's still receiving the lossless audio through the regular HDMI connection.


Edited by Charles Smith, May 26 2013 - 01:56 PM.


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Posted May 26 2013 - 02:23 PM

OK thanks for all the input I figured I would need to run audio separate and you guys confirm it.  Thanks.  I don't think I will be upgrading my receiver as this one is only a few years old.  I will go audio separate and hookup right to the TV HDMI for video!



#9 of 16 OFFLINE   Steve Tannehill

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Posted May 26 2013 - 02:29 PM

A quick Google search shows that Panasonic and Sony make twin HDMI blu-ray players that are cheaper than the Oppo.  If you want to preserve hi-res audio, this is one way to do it.



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Posted May 27 2013 - 04:11 AM

OK I will for sure replace my Blu-Ray Player.  I have always been a Sony BR fan but since I'm upgrading I looked at the Oppo Charles mentioned above, it's features look quite nice.  I'll not need 4K for a long while since I just bought a new non 4K TV. I will probably go with the Oppo BDP-103 as it's features sound top notch. I looked at the BDP-105 features for the price difference and the features I don't see I'd need.  The one feature I noticed the 105 could do was to stream/send video/audio via network for viewing else where, but I really will not need this.

 

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Edited by HDNutts2010, May 27 2013 - 07:46 AM.


#11 of 16 OFFLINE   Steve Tannehill

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Posted May 27 2013 - 08:54 AM

The BDP-103 should also be able to stream.  My BDP-93 is able.



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Posted June 19 2013 - 05:05 AM

So a slightly different question but related.  I'm ready to purchase the Oppo BDP-103.  But the more I've been thinking about it, should I and does it make more sense to upgrading my current receiver Pioneer VSX-23TXH receiver and simply keep my current Sony BDP-S590 Blu-Ray 3D player? 



#13 of 16 OFFLINE   Stephen_J_H

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Posted June 20 2013 - 02:27 PM

The question you have to ask is, how much do you want to spend? I recently upgraded from a Sony 7.1 receiver to an Onkyo 7.2 for three reasons:

(1) More HDMI inputs;

(2) 3D compatibility; and 

(3) Height channel capability via Dolby PLIIz--my HT has a small location, and I will get more out of height channels than back surrounds, as I've discovered with my Sony.


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#14 of 16 OFFLINE   Johnny Angell

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Posted June 21 2013 - 04:55 AM

Height Channels? I'm not familiar with that term.As to a new receiver or new player? Your player is already 3D capable. Why not get a new AVR? You'd be able to run every thing thru the AVR.
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Posted June 21 2013 - 10:59 AM

Johnny,

See the following two links:

http://www.dolby.com...iz-details.html

http://www.dts.com/c...audio/neox.aspx


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Posted June 23 2013 - 04:50 AM

Thanks Stephen.
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