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#1 of 35 OFFLINE   Armand_Boivin

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Posted May 07 2013 - 08:16 AM

Good morning, I am in the market for a home theater sub.  I have had my Tannoy speakers for about 10+ years and looking to either get a complete new system or just getting a sub to compliment them to bring out better home theater sound.  Unfortunately i do not have an ultimate set up due to the shape of my living room. I have my fronts on both sides of my 106" screen but my surrounds are together on the projector stand behind the couch facing away from each other 45deg providing sound to the people sitting on the couch. I can try to take a pic or get measurements later. My outlaw 1050 died over the weekend so i had to make a hasty replacement and got the sony str-dh740.   Probably not the best I could have gotten but for what i had to work with it seemed like the better.  I am liking it better than the model 1050 only because it has the HDMI built in and does its own switching.   Anyway now I want to try to pick up a decent sub that will compliment the Tannoy's until i can replace them.

 

Tannoy M5 (fronts)

Tannoy Mc (center)

Tannoy M2 (surround)

 

I know I probably just opened up a whole can of worms, so I guess I will just await all the responses.



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Posted May 07 2013 - 08:36 AM

Good morning, I am in the market for a home theater sub.  I have had my Tannoy speakers for about 10+ years and looking to either get a complete new system or just getting a sub to compliment them to bring out better home theater sound.  Unfortunately i do not have an ultimate set up due to the shape of my living room. I have my fronts on both sides of my 106" screen but my surrounds are together on the projector stand behind the couch facing away from each other 45deg providing sound to the people sitting on the couch. I can try to take a pic or get measurements later. My outlaw 1050 died over the weekend so i had to make a hasty replacement and got the sony str-dh740.   Probably not the best I could have gotten but for what i had to work with it seemed like the better.  I am liking it better than the model 1050 only because it has the HDMI built in and does its own switching.   Anyway now I want to try to pick up a decent sub that will compliment the Tannoy's until i can replace them.

 

Tannoy M5 (fronts)

Tannoy Mc (center)

Tannoy M2 (surround)

 

I know I probably just opened up a whole can of worms, so I guess I will just await all the responses.

 

What is your maximum budget for the subwoofer. ?


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#3 of 35 OFFLINE   Armand_Boivin

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Posted May 07 2013 - 08:49 AM

I would say at this point $500-$700



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Posted May 07 2013 - 09:02 AM

I'm a fan of ported designs, mines is an SVS, here's one for around your budget, just $50 more.

 

https://www.svsound....linder/pc12-nsd

 

Another one worth looking at is the HSU subwoofer.

 

http://www.hsuresear...s/vtf-3mk4.html

 

Others can pipe in with a few more options for you.


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Posted May 07 2013 - 09:30 AM

Between HSU, Rythmik, Pinnacle(designed by HSU), HTD and SVS...

We could keep typing...but those 5 already give numerous options.

#6 of 35 OFFLINE   Armand_Boivin

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Posted May 07 2013 - 09:50 AM

I was looking at the SVS and HSU subs for a while. I have heard very good things about them, but am trying to see if there is anything else a little less expensive before I go and drop the money.  I just happen to look up the HTD subs, which one would i go with? level 2 or level 3?



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Posted May 07 2013 - 09:58 AM

I was looking at the SVS and HSU subs for a while. I have heard very good things about them, but am trying to see if there is anything else a little less expensive before I go and drop the money.  I just happen to look up the HTD subs, which one would i go with? level 2 or level 3?

 

They look okay, but in all honesty i'd go for the HSU i linked to, very good warranty and very powerful subwoofer, if not then get 2 of the HTD level 2 subwoofers which will help with room modes.


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#8 of 35 OFFLINE   Armand_Boivin

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Posted May 07 2013 - 10:05 AM

I actually really like the looks of the circular SVS. What would be the best placement for either kind whether it is the circular or box? Front of the room or maybe behind the couch?



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Posted May 07 2013 - 10:09 AM

I actually really like the looks of the circular SVS. What would be the best placement for either kind whether it is the circular or box? Front of the room or maybe behind the couch?

 

I actually have my subwoofer slightly off centre of the front wall in the room and its between the fronts, its next to the center speaker, its a pretty large subwoofer though with 2 12 inch drivers and i control some room modes using a Velodyne SMS-1, unfortunately i can't tell you your best room position, its trial and error and you place it where bass is tightest without the boominess that can result from a room mode at certain frequencies, i can point you to a good guide though that will explain more, let me find it and i'll come back and edit the post, okay found it, there are more but this one gives you the basics.

 

http://www.audioholi...ment-guidelines


Edited by FoxyMulder, May 07 2013 - 10:17 AM.

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#10 of 35 OFFLINE   Armand_Boivin

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Posted May 07 2013 - 10:19 AM

Thank you very much for the help. I will continue to think about which sub to go with.. I am definitely open to all suggestions so please continue to give me possibilities and recommendations.



#11 of 35 OFFLINE   Armand_Boivin

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Posted May 07 2013 - 10:23 AM

also i was looking at this one as well http://www.lavasubs...._subwoofer.html how does it compare if at all?

 

or even this one https://www.svsound....ted-box/pb-1000


Edited by Armand_Boivin, May 07 2013 - 10:30 AM.


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Posted May 07 2013 - 10:41 AM

also i was looking at this one as well http://www.lavasubs...._subwoofer.html how does it compare if at all?

 

or even this one https://www.svsound....ted-box/pb-1000

 

Heres a review and comparison between the PB and SB models, below it is a second and third review from different sites.

 

https://www.google.c....46226182,d.ZWU

 

http://www.soundandv...-1000-subwoofer

 

http://forums.audioh...est-review.html

 

2 reviews of the Lava subwoofer.

 

http://www.audioholi...lsp12-subwoofer

 

http://www.hometheat...fer-review.html

 

Another review this time of the SVS cylinder subwoofer.

 

http://www.hometheat...fer-review.html

 

An HSU VTF-3 mrk 3 review, they have since upgraded the subwoofer to mrk 4 and made it better so read the review and take into account the subwoofer has been improved since that review was written.

 

http://www.audioholi...s/vtf-3-mk3-sub

 

The difference between the HSU and SVS is that they will play at louder volumes without as much stress and distortion as the lower priced subwoofers, that's why i recommend them for home cinema setups, of course buying a couple of the lower priced ones does give you extra headroom on the extension front.


Edited by FoxyMulder, May 07 2013 - 10:53 AM.

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#13 of 35 OFFLINE   Armand_Boivin

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Posted May 07 2013 - 11:02 AM

Thank you so much for the articles. i will be reading through them very shortly.



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Posted May 07 2013 - 11:05 AM

hmm.. what about these? http://velodyne.com/...efurbished.html I am not normally one for refurbished but 2?



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Posted May 07 2013 - 11:14 AM

hmm.. what about these? http://velodyne.com/...efurbished.html I am not normally one for refurbished but 2?

 

I think Velodyne make some good subwoofers but i personally would not buy that particular model over some of the other ones listed here, i also cannot find a single review just some comments on a few forum sites.


Edited by FoxyMulder, May 07 2013 - 11:16 AM.

     :Fun Movie Quotes:

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#16 of 35 OFFLINE   Armand_Boivin

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Posted May 07 2013 - 11:18 AM

https://www.svsound....0&category_id=5

 

is the outlet for SVS worth it?

 

Sorry if i am asking too many questions, just trying to see what is best for me without breaking the bank ;-)


Edited by Armand_Boivin, May 07 2013 - 11:21 AM.


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Posted May 07 2013 - 11:21 AM

I've not heard a HTD in person. But...

The way they are designed makes them worth considering. The exterior amp means you aren't stuck with plate amps.

Last I looked, I would pick one single amp(their biggest) and two of their top subs(the 3??) And run them series from a centrally located amp...

Or just buy two amps.

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Posted May 07 2013 - 11:23 AM

https://www.svsound....0&category_id=5

 

is the outlet for SVS worth it?

 

Sorry if i am asking too many questions, just trying to see what is best for me without breaking the bank ;-)

 

Its $100 more than the PB-1000, i think the PB-1000 is the better subwoofer, read all the reviews and evaluate your budget and go for whatever you personally consider the best, you have all the possible options now within your $500 to $700 budget and i think at this stage you can probably Google more reviews if you find some more that you like the look and price of.

 

If it was me i'd try and get a review of the Velodyne one since 2 subwoofers can help with room modes and extension, i'd personally buy the HSU one or the SVS cylinder one, i'd probably go for the HSU overall, depends really, i think Velodyne are very good but is that particular subwoofer good, i don't know, Google is your friend here although it has failed me this time.


Edited by FoxyMulder, May 07 2013 - 11:29 AM.

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#19 of 35 OFFLINE   Armand_Boivin

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Posted May 07 2013 - 11:24 AM

Shan1269, For the HTD, I was just reading it and the "3" includes the amp for $429



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Posted May 07 2013 - 11:42 AM

FoxyMulder, Thank you so much for everything so far.. You have been a tremendous help. right now on the conservative side I am leaning toward the PB-1000 it is about $250 less than the cylindrical SVS and about $200 less than the HSU.  I will continue to do my research and look at everything that this thread has brought to light. I really am looking for the best bang for the buck on a budget ($500-$700) but would definitely rather stay more toward the lower part of the budget ;-) 






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