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#21 of 50 OFFLINE   Adam Sanchez

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Posted January 31 2013 - 10:36 AM

Thanks. Good to know the content is the same. And glad Disney is making separate options!

#22 of 50 ONLINE   Ronald Epstein

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Posted February 01 2013 - 11:24 PM

In anticipation of Tuesday's release, thought you guys might enjoy a gallery of

1950s Live Action Reference photographs from the Walt Disney Studio's Vault.


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#23 of 50 OFFLINE   Johnny Angell

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Posted February 02 2013 - 03:01 AM

In anticipation of Tuesday's release, thought you guys might enjoy a gallery of 1950s Live Action Reference photographs from the Walt Disney Studio's Vault. Click Here

Great link, thanks. I wonder if any of the models were also voice actors for the film?
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Posted February 02 2013 - 09:16 AM

In anticipation of Tuesday's release, thought you guys might enjoy a gallery of 1950s Live Action Reference photographs from the Walt Disney Studio's Vault. Click Here

Great link, thanks. I wonder if any of the models were also voice actors for the film?

I'm fairly certain they all are, save for the Peter Pan shots. Because he's so distant, I can't tell if it's Bobby Driscoll (the voice actor) or Roland Dupree (live-action model for the flying sequences). And in Picture 8, I can't tell who the woman sitting on the stool is, but it's definitely not Margaret Kerry, who's Tinker Bell in all the other shots.

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Posted February 02 2013 - 11:23 AM

Does anybody know if the British blu-ray version came from the same source as the new US release? The British release has been available for some time and I purchased it late last year. For starters It doesn't have the Disney View Art Panels. (which are very effective on other disney classics) The colors on the British blu-ray disc seem to lack intensity and look slightly different to any other version I've previously seen, going way back to the film's initial release in the 1950s So I'm curious to know whether there is any difference in the picture quality between these 2 releases. Doug.

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Posted February 03 2013 - 06:16 AM

As Ron mentioned, Disney recently talked with our members about prepping Peter Pan for Blu-ray during the 2012 HTF Meet. Here is a transcript of that presentation: http://www.hometheat...pan-for-blu-ray



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Posted February 03 2013 - 06:25 AM

Originally Posted by Edwin-S 

Limited animation detail? In what way I wonder? The guys and gals that made these films forgot more about animation and backgrounds than any of these new guys will ever know.

Shots of characters in the background from a distance in which their faces lack animation details.


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Posted February 03 2013 - 07:04 AM

Originally Posted by Robert Crawford 

Shots of characters in the background from a distance in which their faces lack animation details.


The best example I remember from our visit to Disney in October was the journey to Neverland when Peter and the kids "bank" away from the screen toward Big Ben.


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Posted February 03 2013 - 11:05 AM

This one is my favorite example. I always noticed it even when I was a child.

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Posted February 03 2013 - 11:33 AM

I read somewhere that this HD version of the movie had some controversial alteration. Is that true? If so, what is it?

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Posted February 03 2013 - 11:38 AM

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I read somewhere that this HD version of the movie had some controversial alteration. Is that true? If so, what is it?


It is talked about here.


 

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Posted February 03 2013 - 11:49 AM

So it's a thing with the color?

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Posted February 03 2013 - 01:55 PM

Originally Posted by Jason_V 

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Originally Posted by Robert Crawford 

Shots of characters in the background from a distance in which their faces lack animation details.


The best example I remember from our visit to Disney in October was the journey to Neverland when Peter and the kids "bank" away from the screen toward Big Ben.
Correct and they decided to leave that as-is and not animate the faces:



So unfortunately when you scan the original negative at 4K, you see things like there are no faces on those characters [on the scene where the Darling children fly over London with Peter Pan]. That was a decision they made. It saved time, it made it simpler, and it’s really hard to animate faces that small. And probably in 1953 nobody ever saw that, but you guys see it. Now, of course we debated that, should we fix it, are audiences are going to see it, is it a problem? But the reality is that’s the decision they made and we decided to leave it as it is. It seemed a bit presumptuous of us to try to animate faces on what the nine old men had animated, so those are the sort of things we do leave alone.



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Posted February 03 2013 - 02:29 PM

I read somewhere that this HD version of the movie had some controversial alteration. Is that true? If so, what is it?

If you haven't noticed on or been bothered by other Disney Blu-rays, I can't imagine you'll care in this case either.

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Posted February 03 2013 - 02:36 PM

For what it's worth, I agree with the decision not to animate the faces and to keep them exactly as is.  It's a little oddity which is fun to point out and notice...and it's historically accurate.



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Posted February 05 2013 - 04:50 AM

SEVERE NICK-PICK ALERT I guess I just can't fathom why, with all the other features either ported from previous DVD's and those produced especially for this release, the theatrical trailers are not included. Every other Blu-ray Platinum edition so far (if I am not mistaken) has included, not just one, but a bevy of original & re-issue trailers. I would have to assume that Disney still has the PETER PAN trailers, as they are almost unsurpassed in preservation of their films and related materials. Why would they leave these off this release? I know, severe nick-picking when everything else is so excellent about this release. But, I cannot label this as a definitive release without those trailers.

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Posted February 05 2013 - 05:50 AM

Any digibooks? Like with Cinderella?
 

 


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Posted February 05 2013 - 07:45 AM

I guess I just can't fathom why, with all the other features either ported from previous DVD's and those produced especially for this release, the theatrical trailers are not included. Every other Blu-ray Platinum edition so far (if I am not mistaken) has included, not just one, but a bevy of original & re-issue trailers. I would have to assume that Disney still has the PETER PAN trailers, as they are almost unsurpassed in preservation of their films and related materials. Why would they leave these off this release?

From what I've gathered, having the trailers as bonus features depends on whether they were found/used on the DVD and/or laserdisc releases. Every Platinum Edition DVD except for Peter Pan, The Jungle Book and The Lion King included either the original trailer, or the original trailer plus re-release trailers. For most of these releases, they already had them as supplements from the laserdisc sets. It was only for One Hundred and One Dalmatians that they had to search the archives to find trailers (which I'm forever grateful for, as their selection of trailers is possibly the largest set in the Platinums). So far on Blu-Ray, all the Diamond Editions except for Peter Pan and The Lion King include trailers, for the same reasons as before: they were supplements on a past release that got carried over. Strangely, the laserdiscs for The Jungle Book and The Lion King included original trailers. With The Jungle Book being scheduled for spring of next year, maybe they'll see fit to include the trailer, but I'm not holding my breath. Disney prefers dropping extras rather than including them. :( Peter Pan's exclusion of trailers is really the most disappointing, as I've never seen any marketing material for it beyond posters, "The Peter Pan Story," and clips from "The Walt Disney Christmas Show." And I still don't see why Disney hasn't bothered to include that 1951 special on any release. They even showed it at WDW's Magic & Merriment last year, so it still exists in its entirety. And Ethan, I picked up Peter Pan in Digibook at Target.

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Posted February 05 2013 - 09:11 AM

Albert:


What form does the digibook take?  It has been called a 32-page "storybook."


Is it the abridged story of Peter Pan featuring Disney animation?  Or, does it include background on the making of the film (like most digibooks tend to do)?


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Posted February 05 2013 - 10:57 AM

Albert: What form does the digibook take?  It has been called a 32-page "storybook." Is it the abridged story of Peter Pan featuring Disney animation?  Or, does it include background on the making of the film (like most digibooks tend to do)? Thanks.

Hi Mike, Unfortunately, it's just a storybook, similar to Target's digibooks for Cinderella and Brave from last year. The nostalgist in me would have loved if the illustrations were from a Little Golden Book, or even from the "Story & Songs" Disneyland LP. But what's included is pretty nice, and it's printed on thick, glossy paper. My only complaint would have to be the decision to make little Michael's onesie a blue-white tint rather than his trademark pink. They've done it on both the digibook and the regular Blu-Ray covers. Also, if you're interested in getting the film with the Digital Copy + Storybook App, you're out of luck. The digibook holds just the Blu-Ray and DVD.





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