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SONY STR-DE897 with 2 wireless speakers


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#1 of 20 bodosko

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Posted January 21 2013 - 07:30 AM

Hi, I'm a beginner here on the forum and I don't know if I'm posting in the right section. I have a SONY STR-DE897 with 7.1 speakers and there are 2 speakers output not being used (FRONT B). My living room is right besides where I want to put some wireless speakers, 17yards straight away from the receiver, without walls on the way, just a glass door. Is it possible to setup this with my receiver? Or I need to buy a new one? Or perhaps some sort of a wireless adapter(I don't know if this exist)? Thanks.

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Posted January 21 2013 - 08:12 AM

You do realize "wireless" isn't wireless cause the "other end" needs to be connected to power...

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Posted January 21 2013 - 08:29 AM

Yes, but I wouldn't need to pass a cable through the middle of my room.

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Posted January 21 2013 - 09:01 AM

Your AVR has 2nd zone pre-out.

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Posted January 21 2013 - 09:07 AM

Originally Posted by bodosko 

I have a SONY STR-DE897 with 7.1 speakers and there are 2 speakers output not being used (FRONT B).


The "B" speakers can't be used this way - any wireless system will need to connect to line-level outputs (RCA jacks, known as pre-outs).


According to the manual, you have a second zone available to you, but that will only work with sources connected to analog inputs.  As long as you are OK with the source limitations, then you can connect a wireless system to these outputs and should be set.


That being said, 17 meters (even if line of sight and only through glass) may still be a tall order for most wireless systems.  They're hard to find because, frankly, they don't work all that well.  They are subject to interference from any other wireless devices you may have in the home, and have been known to experience "dropouts" that can take upwards of several seconds or more for the system to "re-establish" a connection.


Any system you choose, don't throw away the receipt right away.  If it works, great, but don't get your hopes up too high.


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Posted January 21 2013 - 09:18 AM

The 17 meters is what made me mention the whole "other end needs power". So "what" is this 17 meters away? Pool? Patio?

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Posted January 21 2013 - 02:00 PM

Its 15 meters of patio and in the end there is a balcony with a barbecue grill. So this 2nd zone system is not able to play sources connected through optical audio? That sucks :/ Do you think its better use a wired system? I'm almost giving up of wireless after what you said. I thought it was weird not to find any good wireless HT system, now I know why. I was planning to get a cheaper HT to put in the gym room. Do you think its better to get a new and better than my SONY and put in my living room, than move the SONY to the gym room? Or keep the SONY here and buy a cheap one for the gym? I kinda like my HT, but its sort of old and I don't know what I can get nowadays.

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Posted January 21 2013 - 02:57 PM

I would buy a new modern AVR. Wired zoning would work much better. Running "wire" is a lot easier than you think it is.

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Posted January 21 2013 - 04:48 PM

Can you recommend me a good modern AVR and 7.1 speakers? I have a set of SONY SA-VE566H 7.1 speakers. Keep it or better upgrade too and put it at gym with old AVR? I use it just for my set-top box, PS3 and PC via HDMI with DTS, AC3... So I think I don't need one with plenty of sources.

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Posted January 21 2013 - 07:48 PM

I would get a whole new system, well that is depending on your budget. Whats you budget?

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Posted January 22 2013 - 02:23 AM

I dont know the prices nowadays. Can I get a good and better sustem than my currently with $500? Also, i have a 7.1, but i dont know if its worth over a 5.1, since the space behind my sofa is a little limited. Speakers cant be turret type. And if you think its better to buy avr separated from speakers, i can pay max $500 each. Remembering I dont need too many sources on avr.

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Posted January 22 2013 - 02:40 AM

7.1 layout is the rear speaker behind the seating area spread out where approximately 60% of the wall I'd the spread. The 4/5(whether doing 5.1 or 7.1) should flank the seating area facing each other. If you don't have room for "traditional" 7.1, you could always utilize height/width. I do height in my main theatre and do width in the living room. Action movies and sports work extremely well with height. Gaming and music work best with width. I had a bunch of people over for the Pats/Rav game and the room is wider than it is deep. The wide made a huge difference on the game experience. All of the "your momma dresses you funny" vocal sparring between players was fully audible. Depending on what, exactly, these Sony speaker you have are(I'm not familiar with them)...you probably have no real reason to change them. Are they "pre-package" speakers?(Meaning was this Sony AVR and those speakers all in the same box) Or were the speakers separate? If these speakers have a decent efficiency (88 or higher) and reasonably achieve 80hz(at least two of them)...keep them. In the "grand scheme" a $500 AVR budget should be combined with $1500 in speakers. Cause if you do it right...you should only need to buy speakers every 15-45 years. How much could/would you spend on speakers if you knew you'd keep them 30 years?

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Posted January 22 2013 - 02:41 AM

^^ hate autocorrect on a phone...geesh.

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Posted January 22 2013 - 02:53 AM

I did find that speaker set mentioned on a NZ forum. Those things are 84db (in)efficient. You've been missing out on a bunch with those things. For $1000... I'd pick up an Onkyo 515(you get multi-crossover in it) and about the only speakers that fit will be BIC DV(Amazon and BB.com), Infinity Primus(Fry, if you have them close) and Polk Monitor/ii/"new"(NewEgg and Amazon). Those three speaker series are pretty much "it" and any one of them is going to be a tremendous improvement. Sub, stick with BIC around $200. V1020/1220/F12. Whichever one you still have budget for.

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Posted January 22 2013 - 04:26 AM

Here is how my surround and back speakers are setup: https://www.dropbox....22 13.51.58.jpg I took a look at Onkyo 515 and like it but found many complains about its many issues, Do they have been fixed? Also, it has many features that I think will never use. I was looking around these speakers and setup 6xBIC DV62si, 1xCenter BIC DV62clrs and 1xSub BIC F12 for $635. Good price? Each speaker is 175w and sub is 475w, but this Onkyo is 80w output, is it right? These speakers are a lot bigger than mine, its quality over mine worth the size upgrade? :D (mine: 6" x 4.3" x 4.5" // BIC: 14.25" x 8.8" x 9.15") Thanks, you've been a great help.

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Posted January 22 2013 - 04:44 AM

Every <$400 AVR "has complaints". It is, pretty much, your only choice given your budget...unless you'd like to try your luck with the HK AVR1700 or a Sony. Also, speaker and AVR "wattage ratings" are meaningless. You care about two things in a speakers(other than of course listening to them). Efficiency and ohm load. You need to stick with 6ohm and higher speakers. All three brand/series I linked fit the bill. The BIC is(I think) the most efficient of the three...but not by a huge margin. I think the lowest is the Polk Monitor 30 and the highest is the DV62...separated by 2db. Yes the NR515 has been "wonky". But so has everybody else's "networked AVR". Networking is wonky.

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Posted January 22 2013 - 05:16 AM

Understood. I liked it, but I was worried when I saw people complaining. I think I will stick with this setup BIC 62s, BIC F12 or 1020 (size restrictions, yet to measure) and Onkyo 515. What did you mean to try my luck with HK or Sony? Thanks.

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Posted January 22 2013 - 05:38 AM

The HKAVR1700 is "about the same price" but you lose the 7.1. It has been fraught with nightmares. Bricked updates. An owners manual that leaves people scratching their heads. The Sony N1030(Today's Amazon price is $500. It has been as low as $350) is around the same price as well. That is the most returned AVR of the year...by far. You can walk into the Sony Store outlets and find stacks upon stacks of them. Also...keep in mind your 2nd zone...is analog only. It is "analog only" on everything not priced $1000+. So, your 2nd zone "out" on the NR515. If any of those sources are digital...you need to double up with an analog. The 515 is capable of "input stacking". Meaning if one of your sources is Directv(whoever you use) and you wish to have the "radio stations" available in the zones...connect the red/white as well, to the same input. Then when you "turn on the zone", you can still pick "DVR" input...and it just uses the red/white.

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Posted January 22 2013 - 06:30 AM

I got it, thanks. I have tight 17in height for the sub to fit. On amazon specs it shows Dimensions: 21 x 19 x 22 inches (HxWxD) But on bicamerica.com is Dimensions: 17"H x 14 3/4"W x 17 1/4"D Now I'm lost haha

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Posted January 22 2013 - 06:56 AM

You have to watch Amazon dimensions. Many times it is "boxed shipping" dimensions. The V1020 is 13 x 15 x 16.5 inches ; 34 pounds 1220 is 21.8 x 21.8 x 19 inches F12 is 22 x 19 x 21 inches




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