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#321 of 355 OFFLINE   Scott Merryfield

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Posted June 26 2013 - 06:58 AM

Scott,

 

Very nice!  It's refreshing to read these stories in sports every now and then.

So, who wins the Cup next year?

 

Agreed. There are so many sensationalized, negative stories in the news that it is refreshing to read something like this. It was a very classy gesture by the Bruins -- but I still hate them. :D

 

As for picking next year's Cup winner, I have trouble picking which teams will get out of the first round once the matchups are set. I do not like my chances of picking the Cup winner before the off season moves are even made. :lol:


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#322 of 355 OFFLINE   Carlo Medina

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Posted June 26 2013 - 07:17 AM

Just don't pick the Kings, Scott and we'll be fine...

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Posted June 26 2013 - 08:46 AM

Scott,

 

I edited your post because it contained some errors.

 

"Agreed. There are so many sensationalized, negative stories in the news that it is refreshing to read something like this. It was a very classy gesture by the Bruins -- and they are quickly becoming my favorite team, even more so than the Montreal Canadiens."

 

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#324 of 355 OFFLINE   Scott Merryfield

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Posted June 26 2013 - 09:47 AM

Scott,

 

I edited your post because it contained some errors.

 

"Agreed. There are so many sensationalized, negative stories in the news that it is refreshing to read something like this. It was a very classy gesture by the Bruins -- and they are quickly becoming my favorite team, even more so than the Montreal Canadiens."

 

;)

 

That's it -- I'm taking off the kid gloves. To follow Carlo's request, I am now picking the Bruins to win next year's Cup. Your team is now doomed, Scott! Doomed, I say! :rolling-smiley:


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Posted June 26 2013 - 10:15 AM

Scott,

 

Very nice!  It's refreshing to read these stories in sports every now and then.

So, who wins the Cup next year?

Toronto Maple Leafs FTW!


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Posted June 26 2013 - 10:58 AM

Toronto Maple Leafs FTW!

 

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Posted June 26 2013 - 01:07 PM

Talk about major heartbreak, to lose the game the way the Bruins did. Still, both teams had a great run, but unfortunately, there has to be a winner and a loser. Congrats to the Chicago Blackhawks for winning the Stanley Cup.

 

Good thing for hockey to salvage this season, even if it's a short one.


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#328 of 355 OFFLINE   Scott Merryfield

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Posted June 30 2013 - 02:17 PM

Congratulations to Ryan Hartman of the Plymouth Whalers for being taken in the first round of the NHL Draft, at #30 overall to the Stanley Cup Champion Chicago Blackhawks.

Ryan's selection makes it four consecutive years where at least one Plymouth Whaler has been selected in the first round. The list:

2010: Tyler Seguin (Boston)
2011: J.T. Miller (Rangers), Rickard Rakell (Anaheim), Stefan Noesen (Ottawa)
2012: Tom Wilson (Washington)
2013: Ryan Hartman (Chicago)

Matt Mistele has a very good chance of keeping the Whalers streak alive in the 2014 draft, too.

 

FYI, 22 of this year's 30 first round picks came from the three major junior leagues that make up the Canadian Hockey League (CHL) -- the Ontario Hockey League (OHL), the Western Hockey League (WHL) and the Quebec Major Junior Hockey League (QMJHL). That number could increase to 23 if Montreal's first round pick, Michael McCarron of the US Development League, decides to back out of his letter of intent to Western Michigan and play for the London Knights of the OHL.


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#329 of 355 OFFLINE   Scott Merryfield

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Posted July 01 2013 - 09:42 AM

I see that the Bruins drafted Mitchell Dempsey of Sault Ste. Marie (OHL) with the 2nd to last pick in the draft (7th round). FYI, Scott and Aaron, he played with the Plymouth Whalers in 2011-12 and was traded to the Soo before last season. It's only a 7th round pick, so don't get upset when he never makes it to the NHL. I was surprised to see him actually get drafted. He was a former 1st round OHL draft pick of Plymouth's who was not very impressive.

 

FYI, the final stats for the CHL in the draft:

 

1. A record 22 of the 30 first round picks, surpassing the 21 picks in 2011 and 1998. There were 8 players each taken from the WHL and OHL, and 6 from the QMJHL.  Three of those OHL picks were from the league's defending champion London Knights, who will host next year's Memorial Cup.

2. 63% of the players taken in the first three rounds, tying their best from 1995.

3. 48% of all players taken in the draft -- 37 from the OHL, 33 from the WHL and 31 from the QMJHL.


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Posted July 01 2013 - 10:44 PM

Seems like Vancouver got fleeced on their deal.  They were in a tough spot,  but the 9th pick for Schneider? ouch.


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Posted July 02 2013 - 03:49 AM

Seems like Vancouver got fleeced on their deal.  They were in a tough spot,  but the 9th pick for Schneider? ouch.

 

They traded Schneider because no team would touch Luongo's contract with a ten foot pole. While the #9 pick may not seem like much, I have seen Bo Horvat play a  lot, and he's a terrific prospect. He was London's best player during their OHL playoff run to the title this season, and the Knights had three first round picks in this year's draft from that team. Horvat scored two shorthanded goals on the same shift against my hometown Whalers in OHL conference finals, and he was impressive throughout that series.

 

I was hoping the Habs could trade up for Horvat. It sounds like Bergevin tried, but came up short in the offer. In a normal draft year without so many excellent prospects, Horvat probably would have been a top 3 selection.



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Posted July 02 2013 - 10:27 AM

They traded Schneider because no team would touch Luongo's contract with a ten foot pole. While the #9 pick may not seem like much, I have seen Bo Horvat play a  lot, and he's a terrific prospect. He was London's best player during their OHL playoff run to the title this season, and the Knights had three first round picks in this year's draft from that team. Horvat scored two shorthanded goals on the same shift against my hometown Whalers in OHL conference finals, and he was impressive throughout that series.

 

I was hoping the Habs could trade up for Horvat. It sounds like Bergevin tried, but came up short in the offer. In a normal draft year without so many excellent prospects, Horvat probably would have been a top 3 selection.

Indeed I've heard good things about him as well.  But surely they could have gotten a more immediate return for Schneider.  The problem as I see it with that trade,  is that although Horvat is a tremendous prospect 1.  There are no guarantee with prospects,  no matter how high they're drafted,  and 2.  Vancouver's time to make a play at the cup is now.  Their roster is aging,  and their window of opportunity is closing.  If they are thinking of rebuilding early it's seemingly a smarter trade,  but I doubt their fans or ownership want them to go in that direction already.  Buying out Luongo IMO would have been a better move.  Now they're stuck with a Goalie who doesn't know if he even wants to play in Van,  and I don't blame him after all he's been through.  ( Not that I feel sorry for him,  with all the millions he's making,  but I definitely don't blame him for wanting to get out of there ).


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Posted July 02 2013 - 01:04 PM

Sean,

 

I do agree that it seems like the Canucks did not manage the value of their asset well. If you compare what the Kings got for Bernier, who would be a UFA next year, Vancouver should have been able to get more. I do not think Gillis will be winning any executive of the year awards in Vancouver over this move. My comments were more about Horvat, who I do not consider a typical #9 overall choice.I would have loved to see him in a Habs uniform.

 

As for buying out Luongo, that's a lot of money to eat for a player who still has some value, but from a pure hockey sense it made the most sense. I assume the ownership did not want to eat that much cash, though. They can always use the buyout on him next season, but they will have no goalie then, since Schneider is now gone.



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Posted July 02 2013 - 05:56 PM

They can always use the buyout on him next season, but they will have no goalie then, since Schneider is now gone.

 

  At which point maybe the Leafs can swing a trade with them,  ( not for Luongo ) but for one of our (Leafs) Goalie's going the other way.  You know whomever of Reimer or Bernier end up no#2,  they're going to want out.  Of course Halak,  Varlamov,  Hiller ,  Elliot and most enticing of all Miller will be up ( assuming they don't resign ) next year,  so might be worth playing one more year with Lou and then picking up one of the above.


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Posted July 03 2013 - 04:22 AM

  At which point maybe the Leafs can swing a trade with them,  ( not for Luongo ) but for one of our (Leafs) Goalie's going the other way.  You know whomever of Reimer or Bernier end up no#2,  they're going to want out.  Of course Halak,  Varlamov,  Hiller ,  Elliot and most enticing of all Miller will be up ( assuming they don't resign ) next year,  so might be worth playing one more year with Lou and then picking up one of the above.

 

That is certainly a possibility, although I would not be surprised to see Buffalo trade Miller before he becomes a free agent. They could get quite a haul from a contender looking for some help in net at next season's trade deadline.

 

On the Schneider front, this interests me from the New Jersey standpoint, too. The Devils have a couple nice goalie prospects that I thought they were grooming as possible replacements for Brodeur. One of them is former Plymouth Whaler Scott Wedgewood, who I thought had a chance to be a solid starting NHL goaltender. Maybe NJ didn't like what they saw in him during Wedgewood's first year in the AHL. Or maybe they believe Brodeur is ready to retire very soon and the prospects are not NHL-ready yet.



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Posted July 03 2013 - 05:13 AM

This could be a done deal soon.  The Arizona Coyotes have never lost a game! ;)

 

http://espn.go.com/n...lease-agreement



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Posted July 03 2013 - 05:46 AM

Vincent Lecavalier a Flyer? Barf!

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=426805


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Posted July 03 2013 - 08:10 AM

This could be a done deal soon.  The Arizona Coyotes have never lost a game! ;)

 

http://espn.go.com/n...lease-agreement

 

I guess that ends the speculation of where they will be moving for a couple of years, at least.

 

Vincent Lecavalier a Flyer? Barf!

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=426805

That is a strange signing by Philly. They have cap issues, and big needs on defense and goalie, yet sign Vinny to a 5 year contract with a no movement clause? Bizarre.

 

Overall, this is a pretty weak year for free agents. Expect to see more marginal talent getting overpaid. The Rangers are good for at least one of these signings each year.



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Posted July 03 2013 - 10:08 AM

Looks like the B's may not be so anxious to move on from their Jagrental after all.


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Posted July 04 2013 - 01:10 PM

Wow, I never saw this coming.  I liked both Seguin and Peverley.  I understand some of the reasoning after reading the article, but that still doesn't take some of the sting away.

 

http://espn.go.com/n...-7-player-trade






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