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HBO's Game of Thrones: Season 3


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#301 of 309 OFFLINE   Josh Dial

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Posted June 12 2013 - 09:32 PM

Since Martin is so involved with the show and since he said has an ending in mind. I wonder if th show might pass the books story wise? Since they have said the show will only go 7-8 seasons and Martin still has 2 or 3 books left to write. They could finish the story on tv and then finish (and flesh out) the story in books.

 

Given the way Martin approaches his work, I am convinced he would never let the TV show be the "first version" of his story.



#302 of 309 OFFLINE   Sam Favate

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Posted June 13 2013 - 05:27 AM

Martin has said he wouldn't like the show to finish before the books.



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Posted June 13 2013 - 06:55 AM

Given the way Martin approaches his work, I am convinced he would never let the TV show be the "first version" of his story.

 

I think since he is so involved in the show (even writing a few of the episodes) he may allow the show to be the first to finish.  The show could almost be a outline to the rest of his books.  Since you can't fit everything into the show from the books.


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#304 of 309 OFFLINE   Charlie Campisi

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Posted June 13 2013 - 08:20 AM

I think since he is so involved in the show (even writing a few of the episodes) he may allow the show to be the first to finish.  The show could almost be a outline to the rest of his books.  Since you can't fit everything into the show from the books.

 

That's a unique idea, but I don't see it happening.  Finishing the show first will cost him book sales, certainly hardcovers, as people will wait for the paperback, the library or even skip reading since they know the ending.  Finishing the books first will not cost him viewers or video sales. Too much money to do it other than the conventional way.



#305 of 309 OFFLINE   Quentin

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Posted June 13 2013 - 10:35 AM

That's a unique idea, but I don't see it happening.  Finishing the show first will cost him book sales, certainly hardcovers, as people will wait for the paperback, the library or even skip reading since they know the ending.  Finishing the books first will not cost him viewers or video sales. Too much money to do it other than the conventional way.

 

There are likely a lot of reasons GRRM won't let the show finish first.  Primary among them is that he would have to collaborate on how it works out.  He wrote for TV prior to his novels, and he became a novelist to tell his stories his way.  Why would he resort to collaboration for the climax of his seminal work?

 

But, I doubt money would have any bearing.  Maybe the publishers wouldn't want sales hurt, but GRRM is making a ton of money from the show and his book deals regardless of timing.



#306 of 309 OFFLINE   Adam Lenhardt

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Posted June 13 2013 - 02:54 PM

There are likely a lot of reasons GRRM won't let the show finish first.  Primary among them is that he would have to collaborate on how it works out.  He wrote for TV prior to his novels, and he became a novelist to tell his stories his way.  Why would he resort to collaboration for the climax of his seminal work?
 
But, I doubt money would have any bearing.  Maybe the publishers wouldn't want sales hurt, but GRRM is making a ton of money from the show and his book deals regardless of timing.

I think you nailed it. Finishing the TV series first would lock Martin into decisions that he wouldn't necessarily be settled on. From what I've read, he revises each book extensively before showing anybody else.

As long as the time between A Dance With Dragons and The Winds of Winter isn't as long as the time between A Feast for Crows and A Dance With Dragons, it should be out by the time the show catches up to it. Even if they've made it through the end of Book 5 by the end of Season 5, that gives him two years to get the next book out. The real question mark is whether Book 7 will be out in time.

If it's not, I think the best way to handle it is to simply put the show on hiatus until it comes out. Lets say that Book 6 comes out in 2015 and that the content of Book 5 has been wrapped up in the show by the end of Season 5, also in 2015. They adapt Book 6 over Seasons 6 and 7, and now they're caught up in 2017. Assuming their character survive that far, at this point, Maisie Williams will be 20 and Isaac Hempstead-Wright will be 18. The longest gap between books so far has been six years. By 2017, under this scenario it'll have been two years since Book 6 came out. So even if the last book took just as long, it'd be a maximum four year wait. And Williams and Hempstead-Wright will already be pretty much done growing. There was a three year gap between the end of Season 5 and the end of Season 6 for The Sopranos, so it's not without precedent for HBO.

#307 of 309 OFFLINE   Adam Lenhardt

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Posted June 19 2013 - 07:48 PM

Interesting read on the production process for Game of Thrones from one of the Season 3 cinematographers

#308 of 309 OFFLINE   Kevin EK

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Posted June 21 2013 - 09:26 AM

Thanks for that link.

 

The process is a little different than I thought it was.  I thought they had dedicated units shooting in Iceland and Croatia.

 

This sounds like the two main units move through all the various locations together.   Unless I'm mistaken, the week of shooting in Iceland was probably done last this season.  

 

Eighteen days per episode is quite generous, but this is likely due to the show filming pieces of multiple episodes at the same time.   The DP's account of five directors/DPs working with a single unit on a single set sounds like the Great Hall.   Of course, you wouldn't have five different episodes shooting there on a single day.  But there could be two in one day for sure.

 

Given the way they are shooting the series, they would need to have several of the scripts, if not all of them, ready to film when they start shooting each season.   On the other hand, they only need to have ten scripts ready, as opposed to the 22 or so that a network TV series would need.



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Posted July 28 2013 - 09:28 AM

I finally finished season 3.  I have to say the "Red Wedding" scene destroyed me.  There are so many cruel, and nasty things that happen in this series that I'm almost a minute away from quitting it.   Not really though, it is a fantastic series that gets me so wrapped up in the characters that its hard to see my favorites get brutally murdered.  Looking ahead to season 4.  I hope it grips me like the first 3 seasons did.


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