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#1 of 16 OFFLINE   dennis boyle

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Posted December 13 2012 - 08:36 PM

Hi first time on here and need some help please. I have the option if buying two receivers both for the same money. Which in general is better the Onkyo TX-NR808 or the integra DTR 8.8. Thx for your advice Edit: Spell-checked the title...

#2 of 16 ONLINE   Al.Anderson

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Posted December 13 2012 - 09:24 PM

The Integra is the higher quality receiver by a wide margin. It's better built and has a lot of features the Onkyo doesn't have. However, the one flaw is the Integra provides HDMI 1.3 vs the Onkyo 1.4. The biggest loss from the version difference is lack of ARC (important if you are running an OTA antenna to your TV) and 3D (important if you are considering 3D). You also don't get 4K resolution, but I don't think that technology will be big for another receiver cycle anyway.

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Posted December 13 2012 - 09:38 PM

Thanks for that, I did some research and pretty much you've confirmed my thoughts the lack of 3d doesn't bother me, appreciate your advice

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Posted December 13 2012 - 10:26 PM

Both have the possibility of running very warm (hot, really) so make sure you have enough space around them, especially on top. I had an Integra 8.9 a couple of years ago and it got so hot in Standby Mode I had to un-plug it when I wasn't using it. Integra's are very nice receivers though.
"Everyday room": Panasonic 58" Plasma, Dish HD DVR, Pioneer Elite vsx-23, BDP-23 BR, dv58avi universal dvd player, Paradigm Studio 20 V1, CC-450, Dayton HSU-10 subwoofer.

"Movie/Music room": Toshiba 65" DLP, Dish HD receiver, Marantz 7005, CC-4003, BD-7006, Polk LSI25's-LSi7's-LSiC, 2 original Dayton 10" "Mighty-Mites" subwoofers. (subject to change without notice).
 
Also have  MB Quart Vera VS05 +.....too much to list. Help me.
 
 

 


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Posted December 14 2012 - 12:16 AM

I currently have a 7.8. I seriously could use it as a camp stove. Don't shove it in a cabinet and let it get hot. Heat won't bother it, as long as it can vent.

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Posted December 14 2012 - 12:54 AM

Can we change the title of the thread?   :)


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Posted December 14 2012 - 08:10 AM

What features do you need? The best receiver is the one with the most features that will actually be used. If you won't use the features of the more expensive unit it might not necessarily be better. I don't think Onkyo is as well made as it used to be.

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Posted December 14 2012 - 08:50 AM

What features do you need? The best receiver is the one with the most features that will actually be used. If you won't use the features of the more expensive unit it might not necessarily be better.

The OP was asking about two receiver that cost the same amount. I'm going to assume he wants the one with the most features, regardless if he thinks he's going to use them.

#9 of 16 OFFLINE   dennis boyle

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Posted December 16 2012 - 10:38 AM

Thanks for your advise, I have bought the Integra.

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Posted December 16 2012 - 10:43 AM

Just wait until you cause a brown out in your HT room... That 8.8 will suck the entire 9.5 amp off the wall...of course...if you really need it to produce 140+wpc...at one time.

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Posted December 16 2012 - 11:08 AM

Thanks for your advise, I have bought the Integra.

Make sure to use a good surge protector with an easily accessible On/Off switch. A fan designed for a laptop has been know to help with the cooling as well. All of this doesn't mean you will have the same heat issue as some of us have had but it was necessary for use to make you aware of the possibility. Onkyo's/Integra's of the last two to three years haven't had this problem, not to my knowledge anyway.
"Everyday room": Panasonic 58" Plasma, Dish HD DVR, Pioneer Elite vsx-23, BDP-23 BR, dv58avi universal dvd player, Paradigm Studio 20 V1, CC-450, Dayton HSU-10 subwoofer.

"Movie/Music room": Toshiba 65" DLP, Dish HD receiver, Marantz 7005, CC-4003, BD-7006, Polk LSI25's-LSi7's-LSiC, 2 original Dayton 10" "Mighty-Mites" subwoofers. (subject to change without notice).
 
Also have  MB Quart Vera VS05 +.....too much to list. Help me.
 
 

 


#12 of 16 OFFLINE   dennis boyle

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Posted December 17 2012 - 08:08 AM

thanks gene c I appreciate the advice. This is all new to me so any help is appreciated. In terms of the surge protector, i have done some research and the main gist seems to be Clamping voltage needs to be low and the Joules high. In NZ our standard electrical line is 240volts. Could you recommend the max Clamping voltage and minimum joules I should look for in a surge protector based on this. From what I have found it seems to be recommended around 330volts for clamping and 3000 joules?? In relation to the heat issue, you suggest a fan designed for a laptop? Excuse my ignorance again. So you would just place the fan on top of the reciever, in some of the forums I have read it gave mixed messages about this as it apparently causes a lot of dust to enter the reciever? Is this link the tye of thing you are talking about http://www.amazon.co...s/dp/B000QJ4ZE2

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Posted December 17 2012 - 08:21 AM

thanks gene c I appreciate the advice. This is all new to me so any help is appreciated. In terms of the surge protector, i have done some research and the main gist seems to be Clamping voltage needs to be low and the Joules high. In NZ our standard electrical line is 240volts. Could you recommend the max Clamping voltage and minimum joules I should look for in a surge protector based on this. From what I have found it seems to be recommended around 330volts for clamping and 3000 joules?? In relation to the heat issue, you suggest a fan designed for a laptop? Excuse my ignorance again. So you would just place the fan on top of the reciever, in some of the forums I have read it gave mixed messages about this as it apparently causes a lot of dust to enter the reciever? Is this link the tye of thing you are talking about http://www.amazon.co...s/dp/B000QJ4ZE2

I'll chime in...about the fans, cause I know squat about 240v... Fans, like the one you linked, are always better than not having anything and just letting "convection do its thing". If this is where it is not enclosed, at all, on any of the 4 sides...or top...you can let convection do its thing. But, adding airflow is always a good idea. I'm not into "surge protectors". I prefer a UPS. UPS gives you three things... 1. Surge. 2. Power conditioning. 3. Battery back up. As long as the UPS "matches" the amp draw of its connected equipment, you are good to go. It would help to know the actual amp draw of the 240V DTR 8.8. I'm sure it is 9.5.

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Posted December 17 2012 - 08:52 AM

Thanks Sam, will look into the UPS option. No idea of the actual amp draw (don't have the reciever for another two weeks) and there doesn't seem to be an easy way of working it out.

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Posted December 17 2012 - 09:18 AM

Dumb question... Did you buy this AVR as 120 or 240?

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Posted December 17 2012 - 09:22 AM

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