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#1 of 16 tele1962

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Posted September 06 2012 - 04:44 AM

Just watched Maniac which was rather good but the PQ is probably the worst i have come accross on a Blu Ray transfer. Can anyone tell me what has gone wrong, as they are claiming a 2K scan from the original negative. :rolleyes:

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Posted September 06 2012 - 06:52 AM

The movie was shot on 16mm film which might explain why it's not up to your expectations. I'm certainly no expert but given its low budget origins, I thought the disc looked reasonably good.

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Posted September 06 2012 - 06:55 AM

The movie was shot on 16mm film which might explain why it's not up to your expectations. I'm certainly no expert but given its low budget origins, I thought the disc looked reasonably good.

Travis i have seen quite a few 16mm HD transfers looking realy good, but this one was flat and washed out?

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Posted September 06 2012 - 07:09 AM

For what it's worth, I think this is the best the film has ever looked. I've not seen it theatrically, but I own the LD, original DVD, SE DVD and now the BD.


I agree it doesn't look great, but I suspect the BD accurately emulates the original theatrical experience, considering the budget and methods employed in making the film.


 

 


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Posted September 06 2012 - 07:26 AM

Again though i have seen some very low budget films and nothing as bad as this. This really does look like it has been taken from a fourth of fifth generation print and very far from the the original negative. I think maybe in this case some exaggeration of the truth might have been applied here. Then again i might be wrong.

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Posted September 06 2012 - 07:32 AM

Considering the market for this film was theatrical, I find it very hard to believe that it was not shot in 35mm.

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From Daily Variety, four days before the start of principal photography. This listing would remain

for over two months until the film wrapped production in late November 1954.

 

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Posted September 06 2012 - 07:41 AM

Considering the market for this film was theatrical, I find it very hard to believe that it was not shot in 35mm.

Seems to be the way of the world in those day's huh? Texas Chainsaw Massacre and The Evil Dead looked very good taken from 16mm so it can be done.

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Posted September 06 2012 - 07:49 AM

Considering the market for this film was theatrical, I find it very hard to believe that it was not shot in 35mm.

If (and that's a big if) I remember correctly, it was shot on 16mm or Super 16 and then blown up to 35mm for theaters. If they went back to the negative as the OP says then I assume it would be 16mm.

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Posted September 06 2012 - 08:00 AM

Those are much later. MANIAC was shot circa 1933 by Dwain Esper who filmed his features in 35mm.

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From Daily Variety, four days before the start of principal photography. This listing would remain

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Posted September 06 2012 - 08:04 AM

Those are much later. MANIAC was shot circa 1933 by Dwain Esper who filmed his features in 35mm.

My bad Bob, this is the one i am referring to: http://www.blu-ray.c...-Blu-ray/13090/

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Posted September 06 2012 - 08:06 AM

Oops, sorry about that!

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From Daily Variety, four days before the start of principal photography. This listing would remain

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Posted September 06 2012 - 08:16 AM

Oops, sorry about that!

No problem as i say, in fact it has just enlightened me to the film you are talking about. Is it this one and is it available on DVD or even Blu Ray.:) http://en.wikipedia....niac_(1934_film)

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Posted September 06 2012 - 08:20 AM

Originally Posted by TravisR 

If (and that's a big if) I remember correctly, it was shot on 16mm or Super 16 and then blown up to 35mm for theaters. If they went back to the negative as the OP says then I assume it would be 16mm.


Yes, Maniac was definitely shot on 16mm, then blown-up to 35. The only shots originally sourced on 35mm are the few helicopter shots, which were actually outtakes from Dario Argento's Inferno (on which Lustig was acting as NY location manager). They weren't needed for Inferno as they were too shaky, so presumably Lustig bought them 'on the cheap'!


(All the above comes from the commentaries and docs).


 

 


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Posted September 06 2012 - 08:30 AM

Yes, Maniac was definitely shot on 16mm, then blown-up to 35. The only shots originally sourced on 35mm are the few helicopter shots, which were actually outtakes from Dario Argento's Inferno (on which Lustig was acting as NY location manager). They weren't needed for Inferno as they were too shaky, so presumably Lustig bought them 'on the cheap'! (All the above comes from the commentaries and docs).

Great info, i should have looked at the extras more than i did.:blush:

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Posted September 06 2012 - 08:43 AM

Originally Posted by tele1962 


Great info, i should have looked at the extras more than i did.Posted Image


The extras are all really interesting. The Joe Spinell documentary is particularly special - I've watched it many, many times for sheer entertainment value alone! Posted Image


 

 


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Posted September 06 2012 - 08:46 AM

The extras are all really interesting. The Joe Spinell documentary is particularly special - I've watched it many, many times for sheer entertainment value alone! :)

Thanks Will, i will make a point of looking at that as soon as i can. :)




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